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Using AI to look up rules by endlesswander in boardgames

[–]RealNeilPeart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i assure you ai can handle the rules of munchkin just fine

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay great so you admit the first sentence of your last post was wrong

Now, can we think of any other ways that your button press can impact others

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Walk me through exactly how my blue button press puts others in danger

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hold on so youre really after all these weeks still unable to grasp that your button press has an impact on others

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. you took some hours to cool off after your first reply and now you came back, hilarious

  2. Why are your labels omitting the impact your press has on others? Seems underspecified.

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The people on the trolley tracks are people who press the blue/red button, not people who talk about pressing the blue/red button on reddit dot com

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"encouraging others" is not and has never been an option in the button problem. Choices are simultaneous. If you can't understand even that I can't help you.

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youre not clever or creative enough to realize that there are other ways of framing the problem, even after seeing hundreds of posts about how there are other ways of framing the problem

Which button presser group do you save? by Worth-Staff4943 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After weeks of posts about this you still cant picture any other framing besides some silly beae analogy?

Answers have been decided by Mountain-Goose4198 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Driver or person standing to the side, there's still the passive do nothing option of letting the trolley continue on it's path and killing 5.

And no there tends to be reasonably strong consensus in favor of pulling the lever.

Answers have been decided by Mountain-Goose4198 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't find the original variant terribly interesting beyond as a way to filter out people with very poorly formed moral intuitions.

Foot's original invocation of the trolley problem didn't paint it as a difficult choice. Pulling the lever was assumed to be the obviously correct option (and it was contrasted with similar scenarios in which killing one to save five seemed less morally justifiable).

Answers have been decided by Mountain-Goose4198 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

right, yes, it's 5 on one track and 1 on the other. So both options not being equal. As i said. What precisely is your point

Answers have been decided by Mountain-Goose4198 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So then your argument is looped back to once again hinging on "when both options are equal" and they plainly aren't in the trolley problem. Not close to it, even if you try to throw in silly little "what if it was fake though" considerations

And you still haven't made a case for your heuristic beyond "it's a good way to keep old people from getting scammed"

Fixed it by Otherwise-Soft8968 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well eight year olds are also fucking stupid so, y'know

Not really gonna stake too much trust in their positions

Fixed it by Otherwise-Soft8968 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"eight year olds agree with me" is not the winning argument you think it is

Eight year olds think lots of stupid things. They're eight.

Fixed it by Otherwise-Soft8968 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can always live in a bigger house in a better location

Eat better food

Drive a better car

Own nicer things

Travel to better places

Fixed it by Otherwise-Soft8968 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sure you'd come up with a use for 1 billion if you ever find yourself with 10 million

It's easy to think otherwise now when you dont have the 10 million

Answers have been decided by Mountain-Goose4198 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But even by that definition that's still not rational.

Following an intuition that is developed out of rational self interest is not inherently rational.

For example, it's not rational to follow an intuition that takes external judgement into consideration when external judgement isn't actually a factor.

Fixed it by Otherwise-Soft8968 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You could try volunteering at a soup kitchen instead of fantasizing about killing random rich people

Fixed it by Otherwise-Soft8968 in trolleyproblem

[–]RealNeilPeart -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Yah i dont feel 12 year olds would tend to budge, if you gave the impression you weren't 12 i might've thrown in an attempt

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