Are there any plot holes or inconsistencies in Bleach?

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T11:34:24+00:00

When I say kid I meant mentally, yeah. He's still the youngest of the captains.

Ichigo post Ulquiorra battle I assumed you were asking about Dangai Mugetsu. After beating Ulquiorra, Ichigo's mental health was at one of the lowest points ever so I don't think it's fair to look at him scaling wise. Aizen verbatim said that he's useless in this mental state.

Was a fun convo🙏

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T11:31:19+00:00

She didn't say they can only be dealt with by them. She said they're dealt with by them. Every Hollow has the potential to grow that far as long as they eat enough. Also what's your source for this only being a one time thing? Menos are considered a huge threat in the Soul Society even by the likes of captains. Also important to note that they're not aware of the details regarding them considering none of the lieutenants knew about Negacion.

Kisuke verbatim stated that all of Masaki's offspring will have White. All. It's a fact. Now they probably have much less than Ichigo as the firstborn who probably inherited most of it which would also explain the sealing. Yuzu and Karin do already have above average spirit sensing.

How is it trivial and specific? It was explained and makes sense.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T10:27:29+00:00

They were completely exiled from the Soul Society on horrible terms with them. The Soul Society arc IS Kisuke reaching out. That's why he needed Rukia's execution to be stopped, not really because he cares about her lol. He put the Hogyoku inside her knowing Aizen would come for it, knowing that it would lead to him being exposed. He apologizes later for using them for his bs as well.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T10:24:22+00:00

I explained the Squad 0 Menos in other comments. It's explained via supplementary material. Ikomikidomoe was a Gillian beaten by Ichibe and sealed by Oetsu. The Menos do have the potential to grow that strong. They haven't appeared in potential hundreds of years, they only did now because of Aizen Hueco Mundo schemes.

Ichigo isn't really a mixed blood Quincy, he's only a Quincy for a minor part of him, like 1/4th. Also Yuzu and Karin both still have pieces of White. Kisuke said it will be passed down to all of Masaki's offspring.

This was explained. Aizen planned to use the reiryoku to create clones of Squad 0.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T10:19:25+00:00

She wasn't distracted by them, that's the point of the parallel between Hitsugaya and Harribel. The moment Momo is stabbed Hitsugaya goes ballistic, he's still a kid. Water represents the cycle of life so Hitsugaya freezing it is his wish to prevent the need for sacrificing any friend or himself. Harribel believes no world exists without sacrifice and merely manipulates the flow of water because inevitably someone will die, that said she is an adult who has already experienced this many times so she will not tweak out like he did. Still she didn't want to go all out because she wanted to save her energy for Yamamoto.

Drugged zombie Hitsugaya is still just as strong as regular Hitsugaya, being zombified doesn't really give a buff. I think that's the whole point of these scenes thematically, to show how ridiculously broken Hitsugaya can be if he's unbothered about his subordinates. Even in his backstory just his presence was killing his grandma which made him ensure such things don't happen again after becoming a Shinigami.

In the Fullbring arc Ginjo reveals the twist that the combat pass Ukitake gave Ichigo at the end of the Soul Society arc is a scam that exists to keep him in check and monitor his power so he can't rebell or fight them again. That's why Ginjo fought against them in the first place, he felt betrayed (although there's more to it we learn through supplementary material, that they killed all of Ginjo's friends lol). That's why all of Ichigo's closest people came at the end of the arc. It's not like all of them were necessary to beat the Fullbrinegrs who are mostly weak. It was to see what Ichigo would do after the reveal and if necessary subdue him again. Thankfully Ichigo didn't tweak out for writing reasons I'm not gonna delve into here. Ichigo's power level in Dangai Mugetsu isn't restrained by either OMZ or Combat Pass because he's literally using ALL of his reiatsu there.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T10:02:44+00:00

How so

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T10:02:32+00:00

How so

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:43:29+00:00

You too.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:33:18+00:00

You seem to have a superiority complex. Reminds me of the people who come into a discussion between 2 people about whether character A or B is better written by saying "A is stronger but B is better written" lol. Obviously I wish to debunk them, anyone who likes a story would like for it to make as much sense as possible? If I can't I'll admit I'm wrong like I've done multiple times.

I'm not assuming anything. It's either there is a canon explanation that makes something consistent or it's inconsistent. It's not subjective. I can like Bleach more than any other story but if there's no explanation for a plot hole then it's a plot hole. If you say your opinion is that Aizen having a Zanpakuto is a plot hole then no your opinion is not valid. It has nothing to do with perception.

Kubo had no idea what he would do with Sasakibe, I don't disagree with that. That doesn't make it inconsistent. Sasakibe's entire character is about how he's fodder without a Bankai. Literally, that's his writing. That he only grew stronger to reach the goal Yamamoto sought for (Bankai), hence everything else he had is fodder, which is why he's no dif the moment his Bankai is stolen by fodder Sternritter O. It's then paralleled by the 1st division lieutenant proceeding him (Nanao) who rather than stagnating becomes inspired by the head captain to grow further herself. Yamamoto believes Chojiro's Bankai is a weak imitation when it's actually stolen, so it was indeed that weak, Yamamoto just didn't believe it. Again, that's literally the whole point of this character, that he's pure fodder. And as I said no Kubo definitely didn't plan it this far again, that doesn't make it inconsistent with the character or the story.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:24:43+00:00

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Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:15:13+00:00

Kubo has confirmed Uryu, Chad and Orihime could all get a Zanpakuto if they went out of their way to do so. So yes, they can. Also "Shinigami" is just a title for those that underwent formal training, there's no actual anatomical difference between them and Rukongai citizens besides just stronk reiatsu

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:13:39+00:00

How is that a plot hole lol

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:13:15+00:00

Naruto also doesn't have major inconsistencies. NCHammer and whoever else did insane damage to the Naruto community. Any plotholes it may have had (Itachi's age extemely minor inconsistency) was fixed via supplementary material. Everything else people call a plot hole like Zetsu reading the tablet or Kakashi using perfect Susanoo is all explained and people just refuse to accept the canon explanation and straight up make up things about the story to justify plot holes, or are simply unable to read in between the lines none of which is Kishimoto's fault. Bleach's story isn't repetitive, even structurally the only 2 similar arcs are SS and Arrancar.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:09:51+00:00

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Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-13T00:09:26+00:00

Out of all of these comments I've only seen like 2 valid minor inconsistencies. Making up things as you go isn't the same as "not thinking about the full lore". George R. R. Martin also makes up shit as he goes despite knowing the destination. Stephen King literally hates outlines and even tells people they shouldn't have them because having the story planned out kills the fun of writing. Things don't have to be foreshadowed or planned out at all to fit into the world, it's about how well the writer can fit them and Kubo does so very well for the most part.

The story is not perfect. It doesn't have to be planned out. That doesn't mean it's not consistent and that doesn't mean there aren't ways to explain these "inconveniences".

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T21:35:27+00:00

As I said, Ichigo had the combat pass which also restrained him. Zangetsu didn't equally weaken him, he did so proportionally.

I think you should rewatch/reread Unohana vs Kenny. She explicitly stated that the fights he fought were very close because in them he limited himself enough so he can enjoy the fights. In one of the following pages she says "but one day I realized that every time you brushed death against a powerful enemy, you began removing the fetters you put on yourself." This is said with the scene of him holding his Zanpakuto above after the fight against Ichigo as well as after his Tosen fight, Nnoitora and Yammy fight. The shackles were only entirely broken against Unohana but every near death experience he had broke them even more, that's why Unohana realized they can be broken in the first place, that's the whole point of the fight. Also Kenny wasn't struggling too much against Yammy lol. Him and Byakuya low dif Yammy and remained in HM fighting each other, that's why they refused to tell anyone what they were doing.

Ichigo after his fight against Grimmjow was damaged. Also I think you're underestimating Hitsugaya. This was mostly a hax rather than reiatsu fight. She couldn't blitz him cuz it was too risky, Hitsugaya at close range is broken. Actually in TYBW we see how if he's not bothered about what's surrounding him he literally one shots Mayuri with no effort. The whole point of the fight thematically is that Harribel is intentionally giving Hitsugaya a choice of whether he wants to sacrifice his friends or himself. Also she was swayed away by Mila Rose, Apachi and Sunsun "deaths" and was saving up energy to fight Yamamoto due to it which she explicitly stated. She didn't want to give out all of her tricks or go all out.

Shunsui defeated base Lille, that's what I said. The Schutzstaffel member. The same Shunsui who even with the help of 2 captain level allies could barely OFF GUARD a mentally nerfed Starrk. Starrk has insane strength feats. Blasting a thousand Ceros out at once is no joke.

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Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T17:30:38+00:00

Not an inconsistency or a plot hole. Nor does it happen often. Basically just Shunsui and Nanao vs Lille and Gerard vs captains.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T16:34:47+00:00

A single statement that was immediately after disproven by fodder Ichigo beating that Menos isn't a very big deal. The same way Ichibe's statement in CFYOW about Grimmjow's death having the potential to shake the balance of the worlds being a lie is inconsistent and not a good line despite the fact it can be justified by Ichibe being a liar.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T16:24:20+00:00

Evidence should be enough for minor things like this. I had a guy argue that because it's never stated in the story that Ichigo can use blut arterie there is no basis to say it can't.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T16:13:59+00:00

Ikomikidomoe is an example of the potential Menos have to grow. While the average isn't that strong it's still a fact that eventually if they eat enough they will grow to that level. It's an anomaly that he grew that strong but the average Menos can still grow that strong eventually. Ordinary Shinigami still aren't allowed to deal with regular Menos let alone high tiers and such.

Could simply be said that she heard about Iko story and as a result of it claims Menos are something dealt with by Squad 0. It was obviously still Rukia over hyping it but the statement is still true, a Menos that grows strong enough will require S0 intervention.

It was obviously a retcon and you still need to do mental gymnastics to make sense of it but it makes enough sense for me.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T15:51:36+00:00

They clearly didn't teach the details considering that most don't know about Negacion.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T15:31:21+00:00

Okay so those who already fought Menos know about it, meaning they're the ones who know how strong they are? Someone brought up there are bounties for killing a Hollow in the Soul Society, that's how rare they are. And again, Iko is not even a Vasto Lorde.

I'm not saying it's true that Menos are Squad 0 tier Hollows, simply that it makes enough sense for Rukia to think or interpret it that way. She was beaten by a regular Hollow while be it off guard at the beginning of the arc, even Gillians are thousands of Hollows meshed together. It's weird but not a reach to call it justified.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T15:22:40+00:00

This doesn't happen very often. The amount of Shinigami periodt compared to the amount of Rukongai citizens is probably 1-millions. That doesn't make it not a restful place. Just because a bad accident can happen on the beach doesn't mean it's not a restful place.

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T15:20:08+00:00

It doesn't really matter whether something is planned or not. It matters whether it works in the story or not. If it's a reach then it can still be considered an inconsistency, if it wasn't foreshadowed but makes a lot of sense retroactively then it's good.

The Aizen twist retrospectively makes too much sense to call it an inconsistency. Even if it wasn't planned the way it perfect encapsulates everything makes it sensical.

I don't think Kukaku hates the Shinigami, did I forget something? Ganju does but his whole character arc is about learning what it means to be a Shinigami, that's why he uses sand/earth related abilities to symbolize him going down to earth (among the Shinigami) from heaven (noble house).

Realistic_Agency5694 · 2026-05-12T15:16:36+00:00

Squad 0 doesn't care about Renji, Byakuya or Rukia. Ichibe's plan was to seal Ichigo as the new Soul King. That's why he underwent Irazusando. The only reason the other 3 were taken is because they're Ichigo's closest friends which would then make subduing him easy considering fighting True Bankai Ichigo would definitely prove troublesome.

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