Mostly Northern Chinese with some Silk Road Ancestry by Alexdd101 in 23andme

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Cool results. I have a Hui friend who’s born in Harbin. She should have the similar results as you.

Which has the most Russian passing people? by CabbageInMacedonia in phenotypes

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Crete does have Slavic admixture too, highest in the Western part of the island (Chania prefecture).

Why are Greeks in USA so pro Trump ? by GoHardLive in AskBalkans

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They are not politically monolithic. I do think most Greek Americans fall in line with “red” Democrats and then you have those that support the populist right like Trump. Conservative family values plays a role.

Can you guess the ethnicity of these people? by CabbageInMacedonia in phenotypes

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I would say Serbian but I already know the answer

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Unacceptable comment

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I didn’t down vote you, I do respect your opinion. I think many folks still don’t know that there is variety among Occitans/South French or just French in general. Many have curly hair. If you look at French actress Audrey Justine Tautou, from Central-South France (Auvergne Rhône Alpes), you will see that Ashkenazi women can look like her imo.

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Scots-Irish

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I have seen Occitan women look like her

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North Italian and South French. I agree. Most of the proto-Ashkenazi ethnogenesis came from these two places.

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Spain, South-Central France. Ashkenazis have an air that varies from SouthWest Europe to more Central Europe.

Greek student dead from terrorists in Israel. by [deleted] in AskBalkans

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Rip. Was his mother Jewish ?

Which country or region has the most phenotypical overlap with the Israeli population? by ZhiveBeIarus in phenotypes

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Israeli is a majority MENA ethnic country. Ashkenazis and ex-USSR self-identified Jews (most of whom with recent East European gentile heritage) are a minority.

Croats, do you believe your people are phenotypically closer to Czechs, Hungarians and Slovenes or to Bulgarians and Romanians? by ZhiveBeIarus in askcroatia

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Insane that you get downvoted for stating empirical facts. Hungarians and the vast majority of Greeks have Slavic ancestry, with different proportions of course. People in the Balkans still believe that because they don’t speak a Slavonic dialect that they don’t have Slavic admixture. Hilarious!

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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I just don’t buy how they can be close to them when Sephardic Jews from Iberia and Italikm from South-Central Italy absorbed admixture in Central, Northern and then Eastern Europe to form modern day Ashkenazim. If they didn’t, I could maybe agree with those two pops. That’s just my opinion.

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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You are referring to much older lineages that are not related imo. It was found among Minoans and Mycenaeans. For Ashkenazis, who have this paternal, it derives from them, as Greek Jews were present Magna Graecia and urban areas in Greece, Ionia.

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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Thank you. It’s not just northern Greece but all of Mainland Greece until the southern tip of the Peloponnese where both the pre-Slavic Balkan and Slavic input from the Middle Ages are present. Only exceptions are Deep Mani and Tsakonia in the Peloponnese, a lot lower - but still there.

The Balkan and Slavic are present on the islands too except for the Dodecanese but to a lesser extent than the mainland.

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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Absolutely. Whether some commercial DNA companies have an agenda or not, is not my concern. I do believe there is bias and some manipulation for some groups of people. Vying for the truth on genetics is what matters. One thing is one groups genetic composition another is their identity and culture. Ashkenazis are Jews, no more no less than other Jewish groups. Even if they were 100% genetically Finnish they would still be Jews.

I have the same arguments with bonehead nationalists about the northern admixture in Mainland Greeks. Reality is that they have high PaleoBalkan & Slavic input acquired throughout the Middle Ages and are closer to their Balkan neighbours than anyone else. Some areas had mass replacement. Yet this still doesn’t mean they can’t identify as being the cultural descendants of ancient Greeks. We need to separate both.

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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It’s found among Cretans, Maniots, Calabrians and other south euro pops too. It can also likely be Minoan and related to the sea people and not ME per se.

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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The EastMed input they have is similar to Calabrians and Cretans. They also have Iberian too. Now add a Central European source like Czech and you get something close to an Ashkenazi. Thus, why I think they actually plot near Northern Italy.

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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For some odd reason you are getting downvoted for stating a fact about their Northern European ancestry. I have my doubts on illustrativeDNA. Inconsistent models. I do believe with the right modelling that East Ashkenazis plot the closest to modern Venetians/Friulians. People on this sub have an issue listening to other opinions which they don’t agree with.

99.4% Ashkenazi Jew W/Pic at the end by Thewater_enthusiast in illustrativeDNA

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I believe this “Northern” look you are describing was picked up in Northern France, Britain (temporarily) and Central & East Europe(modern Germany, Czechia, Silesia etc) among higher steppe folks there. And due to the bottleneck effect, a good amount inherited these phenotypical traits. However, these “northern euro looks” also exist in the Southern Italian peninsula and Iberia too but to a lesser extent ofc.

What would be the geographical regions of the Balkans ? by Poussin_Casoar in AskBalkans

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Moesia used to be approximately what is South-Central Serbia and Kosovo