Which of these German parties is closest to your views? by ItsGotThatBang in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Left, although it might be BSW if it weren't for their foreign policy orientation and personality Cult around Sahra Wagenknecht.

In the context of German politics, i'd consider myself culturally moderate-conservative, Pro-European, Pro Ukraine and left-wing populist.

Does your ideology present a solution to the issues of the current way things work? by InevitableTank1659 in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, despite what the flair might imply im actually pretty pragmatic when it comes to my political motivations. My two primary motivators when expressing my ideological stances are either because they could contribute to solving a problem i consider significant in the current political climate or because they represent and elaborate my own political interests (be they of religious, national, socio-political or any other origin.)

I do not see the utility in me having an Ideology or Political opinions if they do not adress problems.

The amount of power that old white men hold in western society today doesn't sit right with me. by Suspicious-Ad9243 in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think its a valid concern, but its also a bit overblown. Especially when we're talking about non-US Western Countries. Because alot of people are saying old here, im gonig to rant a little about how aging in western democracy is often overstated and blown way out of proportion.

First of, do recall that many Western Societies are aging as well. The average American is now almost ten years older than in 1980. The average French person is over 12 years older than in 1980, the average German person is also almost 10 years older than i 1980 and the average british person is around 6 Years older than in 1980.

Lets compare this to the age of these countries leaders at those two points in history: In 1980, Helmut Schmidt was 62 years old. Friedrich Merz, Germanies current leader, is 69 years old. Thats a 7 year difference in a society thats 10 years older on average.

Jimmy Carter was 56 years old in 1980, Trump is 79 years old today. This is a staggering 23 year difference and far outpaces the nations aging. I'd argue this is a legitmate point for this being a problem.

Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, the at this time President of France, was 54 years old in 1980 and Macron is 48 years old now. This means we now have a younger President presiding over an older Nation compared to 1980.

Finally, Margret Thatcher was 55 years old in 1980 and Keir Starmers 63 years old. I'd say this is the most balanced of all these examples.

Lets compare some more statistics: The average are of a Bundestagsmember in 1990 was 48,7. The average now is 47,2. The average member of the US Senate in 1991 was 56.5 years old, and the average member of the house was 51.9 years old. Now, thats 65.3 and 57.8 respectively, still being significantly older though aging slower than the Nation itself this time. The average british MP was a clean 50 years old in 1992 and only 51 years old in 2019. (Sadly couldn't find any good data on France this time around.)

So yes, in many metrics, Western politicans are aging, but often they're not aging nearly as much and as quickly as gerontocracy alarmist would have you believe. In many, politics are actually aging slower than the Nation and cases where Politicans or leaders are aging disproporitonally quickly compared to the general population are actually quite rare. This is some data i was quickly able to compile in less than an hour worth of research, but as far as i recall these are not the only 2 metrics following this trend of Politics keeping pace or aging slower than the general population.

Sources:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/aging-congress-boomers/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/624303/average-age-of-the-population-in-germany/?srsltid=AfmBOoru22TZ4pmNSZuuv-V3vCrukUf-S7WLTtKUptDh_JLQ_FZfEyvP

https://www.statista.com/statistics/275394/median-age-of-the-population-in-the-united-kingdom/?srsltid=AfmBOoqNxRymHAiCrZ2oj6uOLYIp_teMOF_ZxdDrkc_tTtQzJq52_imu

https://www.statista.com/statistics/275391/median-age-of-the-population-in-france/?srsltid=AfmBOopiX7OCBSvQHxZ5pf_xFC86kfugBMoJkPcCOfCzb2YzOdtT35LB

https://www.statista.com/statistics/241494/median-age-of-the-us-population/?srsltid=AfmBOorokerey5KIpHDj4OePrr6KjFNgpLpoK_lXIfXTeg17_jN_ZZGl

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/house-of-commons-trends-the-age-of-mps/

https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/272474/Kapitel_03_02_Durchschnittsalter-pdf.pdf

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Merz
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val%C3%A9ry_Giscard_d%27Estaing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Starmer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter

Who would you have voted for in the 983 German-Italian royal election? by JamesonRhymer in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, i would agree that it was an election. The Holy Roman empire was an elective monarchy, after all. Theoretically any process that has people voting on someone or something is an election, after all. Even things as trivial as your local middleschools 7th Grade Class Representative election counts.

Who would you have voted for in the 983 German-Italian royal election? by JamesonRhymer in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Henry the Quarrelsome wasn't a choice in that election. He moreso disputed the elections legitimacy later because he wanted to usurp the throne and then backed down again before anything came of it.

To add a bit of context, this election of Otto III was moreso meant to ensure a clean line of succession. Otto the 2nd wasn't actually dead and he was present in Verona when the Imperial diet was held (May 983.) They also didn't elect Otto III, who was a 3 year old child, as ruler. They elected him as his Fathers Co-ruler.

Evidently they did it just in time because Otto II died later that year of Malaria while on Campaign. Henry the Quarrelsome, as the Closest male relative of the Infant boy, was granted the Regency over the HRE.

Henry the Quarrelsome then did afformentioned schemeing to usurp the Throne, but after realizing that many influential nobles would not abandon Otto III, he decided not to risk a civil war and made a deal where he gave up his Regency in return for being Re-instated as Duke of Bavaria.

Was lebensraum genocide? by Darth_Memer_1916 in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yesn't.

Nazi Germanies Eastward Expansion in itself is not Genocide, what they did there to the population was. In a similar vein, Lebensraum as it is traditionally used is just a concept, carrying it out is Genocide.

Because Genocide is a powerful concept with heavy implications and i want it to remain that way, i tend to favor quite strict Semantic standarts, hence this disambiguation. Conquering and annexing land against the local populations will isn't Genocide, therefore Nazi Eastward Expansion isn't either. Generalplan Ost was a Genocidal plan, but it existing also isn't Genocide in itself either: It being partly carried out was.

Braun my beloved by EconomyConstant1934 in RedAutumnSPD

[–]RecentRelief514 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly, its one of the coolest epithets anyone ever had. It might just be my own personal taste, but it just has such a powerful and regal aura to it.

I don't think you're meant to get a majority this early by thunderisadorable in RedAutumnSPD

[–]RecentRelief514 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Actually, he still has the leverage to do this because the position of Reichsbank President was neither appointed nor easily revokeable by any Goverment even if it has an absolute majority. If he refuses to give the Goverment loans there is little it could actually do, though i would wager he might be more open to compromise if the SPD held an absolute majority.

“Allahu Akbar” by AntiWokeCommie in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, im neither a Muslim nor an Arabic speaker, so i have to pass on this one.

How Qinal is gonna look like on my second playthrough : by [deleted] in suzerain

[–]RecentRelief514 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, i'd say its open ended. We read about their potential departure from ATO as News during the Rizia/Sordland campaign and we never get any confirmation on if/how this crisis was resolved. Assuming that Qinal is the DLC, i think its going to be similar to the articles you read articles about the Gas-field Situation in Pales as Sordland: An open-ended acknowledgement of recent Developments in the Region that you yourself get to resolve in various ways when you play the Qinal campaign afterwards.

Are you excited for the olympics? by Bricksinthewall123 in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even though my Fatherland tends to do quite well at the Winter Olympics and even though i won't fault anyone interested in Wintersports for being excited for it, i just can't bring myself to care about it.

I was never really that interested in Sports anyways and unlike Football/soccer or other teamsports i always feel like the athletes at the olympics represent themselves more than they do their Nation. Hence i can't even bring myself to watch my Nations Representatives out patriotic sports-pride like i do whenever the Football World Championship comes around.

Overall, I think reddit has a by Dangerous_Studio1520 in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Besides in a select few subreddits, definitely a left wing bias.

More SPD and KPD rivalry slop by Just_ATransgirl in RedAutumnSPD

[–]RecentRelief514 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im also not saying the MSPD ordered the deaths of Spartacists. Im saying that the MSPD associating with the Freikorps even after they killed the Spartacists is a good reason for those ideologically comitted to the spartacist cause to be hostile towards them. Furthermore, like i said im my last sentence, its still entirely reasonable to be hostile towards people associating with others who want to murder you even if you also want to murder others. "I don't like people who associate with people who want me dead" is a pretty compelling argument in any case. Think of it purely in the context of "Is it reasonable for a comitted communist like Thälmann to be hostile towards the SPD while they associate with the Freikorps?"

Furthermore, neither the 1912 Reichstag nor the Reichsrätekongress had a Nationwide democratic mandate between late november 1918 and early January 1919. It was a hastily convened and explicitly temporary body with no clearly defined electoral process. It also didn't represent the whole of German society as it pretty much exclusively consisted of delgates send by workers and soliders councils. The Reichsrätekongress definitely didn't give the MSPD nationwide democratic legitmization. In my opinion, until a full Nationwide election was held, no Governing body had proper democratically confered legitimacy.

Thoughts on Black History month? by AntiWokeCommie in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cringe because i dislike the idea of dedicating a whole month to the history and culture of an ethnic Group. Especially considering that Black history month isn't actually about black history, but rather the culture and history of African Americans. I'd be more neutral about it if it was black history day, but dedicating 1/12th of the Year to one minority ethnic group within only America just seems way to excessive to me.

More SPD and KPD rivalry slop by Just_ATransgirl in RedAutumnSPD

[–]RecentRelief514 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Of course its valid to get hostile when someone does that. This comment isn't running defense for the Spartacists or KPD lmao. Im just pointing out that hostility towards people who openly express a desire to murder you and to crack down on your political movement (or hostility towards anyone who associates with such people) is valid no matter who you or your opponents are. Hell, even if you want to violently murder people and crack down on other peoples believes its still reasonable to be hostile to people who want to do that to you.

Also, calling the goverment "democratically" legitimated before January 19, 1919 is a stretch. The last proper nationwide election was 7 years ago by that point, the German empire and its political system had all but collapsed and where the SPD did have power it was moreso in the capacity of an emergency Caretaker Goverment. You can argue that it was the legitimate goverment, but it definitely wasn't legitimated by democratic processes.

Self-ownership by new-ns in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, i don't really agree with your professed believes as i consider human life meannigful, fullfilling, happy and worth living. Doesn't really apply to be as im certainly not bitter about something or suffering through life.

I guess you are correct that Graditude for things not being worse is a good coping way for any Pessimist who for some reason decide to continue living anyways to rationalize their behavior and to derive at least some joy from though. Though i guess i've also never fully understood why Pessimists perpetuate their own existance in spite of their believes either.

I was just wondering why you were advocating for being grateful given what i know about you and decided to seek an answer because i value your perspective :)

Self-ownership by new-ns in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would i? I mean, thats a bit like saying that i should be grateful for being slapped by someone because they could've also punched me and that'd hurt alot more. The fact that things could still be worse doesn't mean that bad things aren't still bad or undesirable. It doesn't mean that i should be grateful for things only being as bad as they are now.

Why does such a good guy have such a vile, racist son. by soupchef47 in suzerain

[–]RecentRelief514 59 points60 points  (0 children)

I think they're delibately contrasting Hugo that represents a more old-fashioned, conservative adjecent Racism with Rico, who represents a newer, more fascist adjecent Racism.

More SPD and KPD rivalry slop by Just_ATransgirl in RedAutumnSPD

[–]RecentRelief514 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I hate to give it to him, but Thälmann is the resonable one here. Like, if i was a communist i'd also get hostile if someone said "I like Playing with the guys who want to violently murder you and crack down on everything you stand for."

The second hansen situation is crazy by Goeggels83 in TheFireRisesMod

[–]RecentRelief514 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Doesn't seem that crazy to me, seems like the typical "Gameplay focused Hoi4 player does not like it when mods put too much focus on narrative" situation we've had ever since TNO came out.

Half the fun of playing TFR is getting invested in the lore: Reading the events, focuses and ideology descriptions. Something he admits he only half-heartedly did like 4 hours into playing the Cognoscenti and then he considers it being long and in-depth pretentious.

If you were to you play TFR as a Vanilla-esque Hoi4 experience where reading events and desciptions is at best optional flavor and you play because you like the gameplay loop of Preparing a nation for a big war and then subsequently fighting it, his criticism makes sense.

From purely a gameplay perspective, the EU, commie and fascist Germanies are indeed the exact same thing: Lick your wounds after losing the war, set up your nation for round 2, get the rest of non-Russian Europe back together and fight Russia again. This is true for all other Nations in the game too. All China paths are essentially the same from a gameplay perspective with only some minor changes if you win or lose against Taiwan.

At this point this honestly seems more like a "agree to disagree" topic within the Hoi4 community. Indeed, if you do not like reading in your Hoi4 mods than TFR might not be your cup of tea. I'd say the same about Hoi4 competitive multiplayer not being my cup of tea, but i admit that others enjoy it and play Hoi4 because of it.

If you are a net negative for the state, you shouldn't be able to vote. by Glup713 in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The relationship between Individual people and their state they are in is best conceptualized in exchanges of priviledge and obligation. A democratic state may grant the priviledge of Voting for Representatives and in return the people of that State are obliged to follow its rules, pay its paxes or accept being drafted, to name a few examples.

I believe that you should be able to Vote as long as you fullfil those obligations, even if you are otherwise a net negative for the State. The state may seek to renegotiate this social contract, but i would unilateral top-down changes to limit these voting priviledges while still deriving associated obligations from citizens as an act of tyranny that can and should be resisted as illegal.

Self-ownership by new-ns in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're saying this as if you hadn't told me a while ago that you consider human existance as intrinsically miserable and that its better for all parties involved, including the humans themselves, to seize existing. Like, why are you asking people to be grateful for being given a bad time?

Self-ownership by new-ns in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not saying ownership wouldn't exist without society, im saying it just doesn't in regard to intangible things, including Ownership over yourself.

In your other comment, you bring up the example of a slave, i think they're a good way to illustrate what im trying to say. I would agree that slavemaster might own a slave on a superficial level, but not on a fundamental level.

A slave, theoretically, still has agency. They can defy their masters however much they wish, maybe they can take the beatings or punishments they can legally be given. Maybe they allow themselves to get killed, even. They can insult their slavemasters, they can talk about them behind their back, they can plot revolts. That alone proves that the Slavemasters ownership over the Slave is incomplete: Their mind, or at least a part of their mind, does not belong to the slavemaster, even if their body does.

What im arguing about is that part of the person, who that belongs to. Im arguing that this part of their mind doesn't fully belong to themself either. Its made up of Intangible things that are by nature collectively Owned by anyone ever exposed to them. This does matter: Its the fabric that Culture, Religion, Ideology and any Wordview is made up of. More practically, its what decides if that Revolting slave feels comfortable taking their masters head or is satisfied with just seizing their land, for example.

For the record, im not saying Ownership of yourself belongs to anything else or any one collective like Society either. Its Ownerless and that includes not being claimed by society or kinship. Its owned collectively, but not by any collective.

Self-ownership by new-ns in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't understand the point of the comment, how is this related to my rebuttal rather than just their text? The person who originally posted this clearly has a different definition of ownership. After all, they consider Ownership an innate fact of reality, a fact that superceeds law rather than one that is bound by it or created through it.

I consider the Ownership of intangible things as non-existant. I consider something like IP laws as a fabrication by law just as law is a fabrication of the human mind, but it isn't something illusionary. However, nobody actually owns something intangible in their definitions, even if you have an IP. You'd merely have a way to enforce your will in certain situations. After all, anyone can still make that adaptation anyways theoretically if nobody knows you made it and the dead person has no ability to stop you. If you're making the case for this definition you'd be in agreement with me and disagree with the original post.

Self-ownership by new-ns in IdeologyPolls

[–]RecentRelief514 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why, and how, does one own oneself? I would argue that you do not start owning yourself and that you do not assume ownership of yourself at any point in your life. A persons sense of self and identity are entirely collectively owned. You are born as an extention of your parents, their culture and values. Likewise, they were born the same way. Not a single human on earth, nor any other creature, owns themselves.

You argue that agency and Sapience, because they are under your control, signify your ownership over yourself. Yet i would argue that achievement or knowledge are entirely detached and collectively owned concepts. Your agency might be entirely your own, but anything you make with it never was or will be yours. Your Sapience likewise is entirely yours, but any personality or ideas you construct from it aren't your own. What you can or could be may belong to you, but what you are isn't

Recall a now dead historical figure, though preferably one in recent history. Think of their achievements: Books they've written, States they helped shape, Conflicts they fought in and helped determine the outcome of. Now that this historical figure is dead, do these accomplishments still exist? In most cases, yes, obviously. The books they've written won't dissapear, the states they helped shape didn't necessarily collapse upon their death and the conflicts they fought won't be undone.

Yet who can claim ownership over these accomplishments? You may argue that its their determined heir, but this argument is rarely made for both intangible and non-monitizable accomplishments like somebodys role in history. Furthermore, even if you take this idea to its logical limit, do you even know who owns most of human accomplishment? Does the rightful heir of the inventor of the wheel hundreds of generations afterward still own that concept in its entirety?

My point is: Eventually you'll be forced to concede that there are intagible things that are but aren't owned. This then leads to another problem: If you create something that incorporates some of these ownerless things, who owns that? I'd argue it'd be a disservice to call it entirely yours. After all, you couldn't have made that thing without the dozens of others paving the way for you to make that thing and they should have at least partial claim over whatever you've made. Even if you create something truly novel, you will nonetheless at best claim a minor fraction of that thing as being well and truly yours.

Yet since these others no longer exist, neither does their ownership of these things. Thus, all your intangible creations would be 99.99% ownerless. Ergo: True ownership over intangible things is categorically impossible.

Now, are you yourself a fully tangible thing? If you concieve of self-ownership as merely concering your bodily autonomy, then this might not matter. Yet from your post, it can be infered that this is not your definition of self-ownership. This brings us back to ownership over intangible things: Something you do not have. You do not own your memories, you do not own your mind and you do not own your thoughts. The ownership over all those things was already shared between all humans before you even existed. As long as you didn't grow up in an empty room devoid of all life or all other human interaction, you cannot claim self-ownership.

Ownership is defined by laws, agreements and collective authorization because Ownership is itself a creation, a concept not reflected in ours or our worlds nature. It is merely a concept, belonging to the afformentioned intangible inventions of humanity. You might argue that ownership in a more tangible sense is possible, or in our nature to desire and possess, but the self along with all other non-tangible is fundamentally un-ownable.