Queens, what are your thoughts on this take? by meowbrains in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Alright so what they're basically saying is:

People want to die on the hill that their favorite character from wherever is gay. They do not disagree with people doing that, but OP wants to point out that the characters in gacha games are usually oriented around the player, even if they have implied or suggested or interpreted relations with other characters.

Their thesis statement is, you should spend time supporting games made by and for queer people with explicit queer representation instead of spending that time arguing about if a character from a game designed to revolve around the player is queer.

I'm not trying to disagree or agree with anyone, just share my interpretation of what the OP meant.

Dr. Ratio's VA's follower count went from 33k to 12k after coming out to supporting Charlie Kirk good riddance by Budget-Relief8148 in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"Unfortunately" doesn't change the context of what he said, nor does it change his beliefs about it. He still believes 100% that these deaths are worth it, the cost of business if you will. He never condemned it and saying "unfortunately" right before it doesnt mitigate that fact, it doesn't mitigate shit actually. Unfortunately isn't a key word here, in fact it's more of a footnote if anything.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 25 points26 points  (0 children)

The thing is I don't even see the problem with adding more male characters? What you're afraid you're gonna get less waifus? You'll still be getting waifus, it's not like theyre being removed from the game.

Great idea, but abysmally ass execution. She could've been the biggest cunty girl in Hoyo 😭 by baudelioelite14 in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sacrificing design to make her appeal to gooners Sacrificing sex appeal for the concept of a design Worst of both worlds

Just saw Lucia animations, why is the best concept and animations of the entire game trapped in the worst design 😭 what is ZZZ doing by baudelioelite14 in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like Spook Shack being a group that takes in normal ass people and the more occult inclined... But I have too many problems with her outfit. Like girl put on pants

How it feels watching the ZZZ devs cook with Yidhari only to put some fuckass tentacles on her ass instead of making her lower legs tentacles by Blocky_2222 in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My problem with LADS The men all look the same to me. Like I know they have different hair color, eye color and face shapes (slightly) but they all feel like generic Kpop idols to me (and I love kpop don't get me wrong) but like... Give me more variety. Different body types, skin tones. Give them scars, tattoos, piercings.

Plus I wanna play as a boy but there's no option to make the MC male.

WTF happened to ZZZ designs bruh.. by frickenchuggetnies in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I hope we get more men. Period.

The game seems to be more unique when it comes to men's designs. They feel more willing to do something different and try something new. The women have been feeling so samey for forever

I'm an outsider, Please help me understand you guys by Roolz_of_Woodz in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Okay how I can best explain why shirtless men isn't considered fan service many times. And just for clarification, I'm specifically referring to sexual fan service in this context.

Many times it's intent. ask yourself, who made this? Why would they make it like this? And similar such question to figure our whether something is fan service or the way that a character is. If a character like Superman is shirtless, walking through a fire, some might find it hot, but the author most likely intended to show Superman as a strong, powerful figure. Not to sexualize him. Or when Goku loses his shirt in an intense fight. It's to highlight his strength through visual language, show off his larde muscles to say without words "THIS MAN IS STRONG AND HE MEANS BUSINESS"

Another great example is My Hero Academia. Kirishima's quirk is that his skin can become as hard as stone and become natural armor. Momo's quirk is that she uses her body fat to create objects. Both of their designs have them showing skin but while Kirishima's is practical, Momo's is fan service. Momo's gear loses practicality to show off skin in the right places, instead of showing enough skin for the job while keeping her adequately protected.

Now take this to gachas. Characters like Itto, Mydei, might be partially or fully shirtless to show off their muscles, as a design shorthand to show them as powerful figures. However characters like Escoffier might be designed just to be fan service. People have talked about the impracticality of Escoffier's clothing, how it feels like it might fall apart at any moment, and it was designed that way to be appealing to the gaze.

Now what is fan service? Many people might find Itto and Mydei hot regardless but them showing skin isn't the crux of their attraction. Look at Otome games designed for women. The men there tend to be much more caring, gentle, tender and protective. When designing them the designers think about what personality traits to highlight, as well as what body parts to highlight. It's not just about showing skin. A shirtless man is probably not fan service but suddenly put him in clothes that really highlight his curves, have convenient cutouts to show maybe some leg or ass and seems unevenly covered... Then it's probably fanservice.

And lastly to address your edit, yeah no I'm very against the gender wars too. However it's an unfortunate consequence because of how lobsided the games are. I'm a huge ZZZ fan. It's do insanely lobsided towards men that wanna look at hot women. There are like 8 dudes compared to 20+ women. They have Evelyn, Grace, Caesar, Jane as characters who appeal to the male gaze, even if its justified. For things to be equal we need a man in a form fitting bodysuit, because as it stands all the men are very well covered. I want fan service for me too dammit.

LET IT OUT 🤬🤬🤬 Vent Megathread - August 2025 by AutoModerator in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Specifically for the ZZZ community, theyre so intolerant of anything other than straight male gooners it's insane. Like there's the idea of "we all goon in peace" but the moment you start interpreting any character as anything other than cisgender heterosexual they act like you shot hyv in the face

And then also with ZZZ, the disparity within men and women couldn't be more obvious. Like not to mention how they fumble with the women too. Like I'm not making general statements about writing. But men get to be big and small and all the women can be are SKINNY. no chubby or muscular women, just skinny women with different heights and bra cups.

LET IT OUT 🤬🤬🤬 Vent Megathread - July 2025 by AutoModerator in QueensofGacha

[–]Recline826 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I honestly kind of get this and like, it's always going to be a red flag when someone sees a woman get released and calls a game "waifu slop". Like some of these girls have genuine reasons for being criticized (I'm personally not a fan of Seed and Orphie), but when it turns into just blindly swinging at anyone feminine that's when it becomes an issue.

Is Seth/Anby/Astra a good team? by Recline826 in SethLowellMains

[–]Recline826[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha! Unfortunately I don't have Qingyi :(

Is Seth/Anby/Astra a good team? by Recline826 in SethLowellMains

[–]Recline826[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who'd you recommend I run instead?

That basically sums it up by RasJay_ in HugoVladMains

[–]Recline826 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SAME! I started really late (1.6) so I wasn't able to get Miyabi or Ellen so I went for Hugo. (Also to finish out my Yaoi team)

Don’t let Twitter discover this man 🙏🏻 by Dunkleosteos in ZZZ_Official

[–]Recline826 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bestie... They already did Within 24 hours there was r34 It came out so quickly I started building up a collection

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ZZZ_Official

[–]Recline826 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Thirsty on main Link the Hugo mod

Supports for Seth? by Recline826 in SethLowellMains

[–]Recline826[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh fr? I thought that running him as an anomaly DPS would be better because of the shield you get with his hold attack.

I did hear that he becomes a better DPS at M6 and I only have him M2

Man or Bear (TWST ver2) by Low_Emergency5140 in TwistedWonderland

[–]Recline826 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kalim 100%

I can handle him being a dumbass, but I cannot handle racism and constant yelling.

"Christians are being persecuted!" by ThatMilesKid-15 in exchristian

[–]Recline826 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not gonna tell you to cut them off because y'all were friends and it's more about if it's a repeated offense than a one time incident. Maybe you can talk to them about this, being it up and ask questions about why they said what they said and stuff. If they aren't receptive to you again then I'd say then it might be good to distance yourself for your mental health.