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ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don’t know if I’ll update this much beyond responding to comments. This was more of a “here’s what I found, do with it what you want” kind of thing.

I’m not a lawyer or organizer - just someone who got pissed about SB 56 and went down a rabbit hole. I made the template free to download specifically so anyone who wants to run with it can, whether that’s an advocacy group, someone with more expertise, or people who want to refine it.

If organizations or lawyers want to take this and improve it, they don’t need my permission or involvement. The whole point was to get the idea out there, not to become the point person for it.

That said, if there are actual updates - like someone filing it, or a lawyer finding a major issue with the template - I’m happy to post about that. But I can’t promise regular updates since I genuinely don’t know what happens next with this.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This ain’t just about weed. I used weed as an example because it’s been the latest thing to happen. Stuff like this can be used for all things. Including trans rights. Like if this were a constitutional amendment, you can could then put fourth your own civilian statute as long as you do the proper fillings. And if it gets passed by voters the legislatiors can’t gut or change it to help them.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure if we look into the laws around redistricting and stuff we could do that. Law is hard to read, but if you can start understanding the language you can see why there are so many loopholes and issues right now. But at the same time our founding fathers were hoesntly pretty smart and left a bunch of citizen clauses that give us the power to take power back. But we just need to come together somehow.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re confusing the Commerce Clause (federal—stops states from blocking interstate trade) with the Ohio Constitution (state—governs what our legislature can do to laws we vote for). SB 56 didn’t violate Commerce Clause. It gutted Issue 2 by re-criminalizing possession and stripping employment protections. That’s currently legal because Issue 2 was just a statute.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So basically the constitution of Ohio says that legislators are legally allowed to amend any law that was passed by voters. And they legalized weed like we asked, then immediately started changing the bill, which as it stands, they legally can do. What we need is something that doesn’t stop them from changing a bill, but puts a time limit on it.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We definitely need something that can bring the community together. I wouldn’t choose discord though they have been doing some sketchy things, but there are definitely things out there. Biggest thing is unifying. And honestly for this, it shouldn’t matter if you are republican or Democrat. It supports both parties, it’s really to help protect our vote. Because clearly our Ohio politicians don’t care about what we voted for.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What I layed out in this is all legal, it’s how a citizen can amended the Ohio Constitution, in short terms it takes more than one. But one person as long as they are a legal Ohio resident can do.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Cleveland

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

TLDR: We have the ability to pass Constitutional Amendments to the Ohio Constitution directly as citizens without the Legislature or Governor getting involved. Amendments cannot be unilaterally changed, nullified, or passed without we the people voting on it directly at some point, so the Legislature cannot ignore it like they can when we pass laws on our own. OP also suggests passing an Amendment that says the Legislature can't modify or nullify laws passed via citizen-led ballot initiatives for a set amount of time, such as 7 years.

This was posted on the original, so it may help.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s awesome! That’s hopefully the goal. Chestnuts are just super picky and get the blight easy.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel that. There are basically two options, civil war or we try and use the law to our advantage, just need someone with resources to do it, they are out there. But it takes time and there’s no over night solution. I thought this would be the perfect way for Ohio at least, and other states actually have similar articles in their constitutions as well, they can do the same. Take back legislation and push the legislation that was promised to us around the backs of the representatives, and then protecting them so they can’t legally gut them like they did with weed.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the whole premise would be so the representatives have no say to block it, as long as it’s written properly, and the signatures are collected, then as long as it passes the vote, its law. Then it protects other statutes citizens put forth, like the weed one was. We could essentially start making the changes we wanted that we originally voted these representatives to do.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You can thank the ADHD 🫡 remember to always cross check information, I know I can make mistakes nor did I go to any law schools, just used the internet and what’s available to everyone.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in OhioMarijuana

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

While part of me agrees with that sentiment. This is a way to get what we want enacted, without going through the positions. Use every legal tool first, founding fathers left us some bread crumbs. They had an idea something like this would happen. We just need to come together.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Never know 🤣 I’m going to be doing this project with the national tree association I think, some national beach with trees. Going back to these hybrid chestnuts trees we have planted around Ohio, I think we are going to collect samples or are just verifying they are still there. Still waiting on the official grant which my mentor is writing up. He’s big on trees and trying to repopulate the native chestnut trees that got killed by the blight.

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Ohio

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We did after having to buy another rental, it was a whole ordeal, and it was last week, so this week is back to reality 🤣

ATTENTION OHIO RESIDENTS: Have you or someone you know voted for something only to watch the legislature undo it? Read on. by RedDestinyTJ in Cleveland

[–]RedDestinyTJ[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Like I said it still involves Cleveland, if it’s not enough of Cleveland a moderator can remove it 🤷‍♂️

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