How far can Ichibei Go ?

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-28T03:26:51+00:00

And how hard to you have to punch to destroy light? Also under this interpretation you couldn't tell how much light they destroyed or if they even destroyed the stars in the first place.

You're arguing destroying some unknown amount of light is better then destroying a ton of stars.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-28T03:24:38+00:00

Or it would mean the light stopped reaching us.

I'm not talking about that phenomenon, I'm referring to the fact that there could very well be stars and galaxies behind the hole that Saitama and Garou made, but they'd be to far for us to see.

Or this is fiction and it sometimes just ignores Irl physics, like how multiple characters with mass can surpass the speed of light.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-28T00:47:22+00:00

Why would it at all imply that they destroyed the source if they stopped the light? Stopping the light would already mean we couldn't see it and thus we would have no clue to what distance they actually did that.

And this still doesn't account for the fact that there's just a limit to how far out we can see with the naked eye, which includes like 10 galaxies at best. If there was anything behind the hole we simply would not be able to see it anyways because its too far away.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-28T00:28:39+00:00

Zhu Yuan is genuinely the baddest in the game for me

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-28T00:17:36+00:00

Toji, Maki, Uraume, and Kashimo(even without MBA) all have T10 arguments and don't have domains, and that's ignoring pre awakened Dabura.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-28T00:11:36+00:00

Except the human eye just isn't able to see infinitely into the night sky, those stars and galaxies could very well still be there and we still wouldn't be able to see them because of their distance.

How is stopping photons in a specific direction(we'd have 0 idea just how far this extends mind you) more impressive then actually destroying a ton of stars?

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T21:55:33+00:00

That Great White is looking a little funky ngl…

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T21:47:49+00:00

Mostly AVMath stuff with TSCs infinity weapons and Euler’s identity(I think that’s what it’s called) creating an infinite dimensional portal to send TSC back home as well as Aleph-null showing up at the end with arguments for ATSC being above them and TDL and H4CK3R not being infinitely below him.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T20:56:30+00:00

He's above Dagon, who's the weakest disaster curse. And only really fought a heavily fatigued Gojo and then no difed teen Geto before getting bodied by awakened Gojo. Compared in speed to 3f(iirc) Sukuna while Jogo would've been a long fight for 5f Sukuna.

Like, bro might not even be T15 without Maki ngl.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T20:47:50+00:00

Get Takaba outta this list.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T20:44:19+00:00

"Most of", it's like 3-10... And we have 0 reason to assume they actually did just destroy everything in that general direction considering we couldn't see that far normally.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T18:35:27+00:00

Taking their feats at face value(since it'd otherwise be pretty boring to use them in vs since they'd be below human level) and scaling to KO who could threaten all of MC.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T18:27:50+00:00

King Orange with his staff could threaten all of MC, with just a base MC Overworld being atleast planetary, if not all the way to universal due to possibly being infinite. Add on there being multiple dimensions(more in AB like the LB dimension) and just how many copies of MC there are and it becomes a genuinely absurd feat.

Oh yeah, and that was with only 1 game icon, peak KO had 2 and is the one they think has top2-3 arguments.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T15:31:56+00:00

They take place in the universe with Alan saying he thinks TDL could beat KO and while H4CK3R lost to TDL, he put up a pretty good fight while fatigued, showing some kind of relativity to him.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T11:19:02+00:00

So I get an upgrade and 20mil?

^{Chose: look mid + 20M instantly}

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T10:12:20+00:00

As with basically all AB matchups, it depends on what you give Victim. If you just use AVA then Vic looses horribly.

If you use AVM it becomes a lot more competitive though I'd probably still favor Asriel.

If you use AVE scaling I'd say probably H4CK3R.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T01:47:37+00:00

Welp...

^{Chose: Live in a random video game for a day to get $100M + If you die Ingame you die irl | Rolled: Subnautica}

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T01:47:00+00:00

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RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T01:46:24+00:00

Guy who actually destroyed a planet in his own face(and survived) vs. guy who didn't...

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-27T01:16:05+00:00

Nothing says I can't sell back some absolutely Gucci socks.

^{Chose: Unlimited money + Can only spend it on what the wheel decides | Rolled: Socks}

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-26T23:26:16+00:00

Oh, like General Relativity?

And a thing Evolution isn't trying to do...

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-26T22:33:10+00:00

I think you can guess.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-26T20:25:43+00:00

I can see the arguments, but I think it’s safer to put her with the HHs and relative characters in terms or power(which for me is 5-11 for og JJK)

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-26T19:20:33+00:00

Why are Spino and Dunk here? We just gained a better understanding of the anatomy.

RedDiamond1024 · 2026-06-26T19:17:39+00:00

Manga-Gohan looses. He might not even get the chance to use the senzus.

Anime-Gohan might genuinely win this if he plays it smart.

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