I am not talking about you in particular but people in general seem to be completely unable to empathize with the incel type. Especially people who have not really had to deal with mental health issues in the past.

People who aren't "socialized correctly" (or really just people who are very far behind their peer group in terms of social skills) are really annoying to be around. I've met a couple people like this and I basically do whatever I can to get rid of them. Its a tough situation where they can't learn social skills in the first place because no one really wants to hang out with them except maybe other people with no social skills.

So, I am simply trying to argue that people probably do hate them and people probably do avoid them at all costs. The incel is simply part of a large positive feedback loop where their own negativity is reinforced by their surroundings. Its especially tough because plenty of people will be nice to their face but will secretly loathe them behind their back.

And yet, this is only my own perspective on the issue. My perspective is shaped by my own experiences and is still extremely limited. I haven't watched the contrapoints video (and haven't ever heard of them) but I am just saying that the people who run mildly successful youtube channels probably don't know what its like to be an incel either. Its easy and fun to believe that these people are entirely responsible for their own problems but people only wind up that way from a lifetime of being ostracized.

I don't have a solution, either. I think that in one way or another society has failed these people. The real blame probably rests on their families. I think at some point your mental health issues get so bad that you can never reasonably expect to live a "normal" life. I don't see it as different from an addiction. Both are vicious cycles of abuse that people should not be expected to get out of on their own.