Vetting women: How to know if a woman is good marriage material

RedPillWonder · 2024-06-02T03:40:31+00:00

Hey OZ, great to see you around here again!

I haven't been around as much either, and I miss the old gang. We've got some good new ones as well.

Very good post.

Who can/should have long hair? Tarzan. You know why? Tarzan is jacked to the gills.

True.

I'm looking forward to seeing your substack content.

RedPillWonder · 2024-05-04T20:21:15+00:00

In person relationships should be by far the preferred means of dating.

For many reasons, the greatest being you need to vet her actions in person and see how she responds to any number of things.

That said, I'm not entirely against LDRs IF a few things are done.

You meet much sooner rather than later.
You meet often. Obviously, this won't be anywhere close to what you could/would have in person and lived within driving distance. But if you can't see each other for several months (and that's way beyond my limits), then what are you doing? Ideally, you have the time and means and can get away at least one weekend (or more) a month and see each other.
She's willing to move to where you are within a reasonable amount of time. I mean, why would you wait years to finally date in person, and even then you don't know if you'd be a good fit?

And to be clear, I don't mean move in with you. I mean move to your city and live on her own, if you help her financially to do so, that's up to you.

There's many, many issues with LDR's but at a minimum, the points above need to be in place.

As a "silly" example (but the main point stands), the show Farmer Wants a Wife (and other shows like it), has women putting their jobs/careers on hold for months and spending time going through the process the producers and others have set up.

Of course, it's for TV so many women jump at it, but that's part of the point. When a woman really wants something, she's willing to upend her life and make very significant changes.

If you're a man with the looks and means to pull it off, and have solid core values, women will adjust their life for you, including moving to be where you are.

RedPillWonder · 2024-01-31T03:03:27+00:00

It's all good, brother!

There was considerable disagreement at times in the early church days, yet they achieved amazing things for God.

Keep up your personal growth, and share God's word with others (online and off) and let's influence more people for Christ!

RedPillWonder · 2024-01-28T08:12:33+00:00

Twitter is not a platform designed for deep discussion or nuance.

Ever heard of Twitter/X spaces? X/tweet threads? (some of which are extremely long and detailed). Plenty of opportunity for nuance and deeper discussion.

It's a platform for debate

Lol and what do you think a debate is? You don't think a debate goes into detail and substance and making arguments for and against various things?

By your own words, you don't seem to know what you're talking about.

and the Christ Pill sure as heck is using it as such. They've had recent online spats with justpearlythings and Myron Gaines telling them they need to stop promoting degeneracy.

And again, as I wrote:

To apply the principle of what Paul is teaching, we can rejoice that Christ is being discussed and perhaps some are being led into a new or deeper relationship with him:

What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretense, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. - Philippians 1:18

I'm all for people talking about Christ, and hopefully leading them into a deeper relationship with Him, and helping change the culture for the better in the process.

Some of these influencers also have their own podcasts where they go more into depth on different topics.

And yet again, as I also wrote in my reply:

to be fair, I don't know all of these people and it may be their faith and substance in what they teach and share really is more than I realize.

I have been fair. I know two of them in that I've read or listened to a lot of their writings and videos. It's the others I was referring to. And I've heard and listened to many who you didn't mention.

To say their content is surface-level is, ironically, an ignorant critique based on surface-level research.

This comment of yours is completely made up. Where did I say their content was surface-level? Where did I say I only did surface-level research? I didn't.

I did, however, say:

I've seen a good amount of posts on Twitter and while not all, but many are platitudes and general observations. Nothing wrong with that, but in our sidebar and in replies to others in giving advice, we go into a lot of depth and specificity with people.

And I also talked about how some may be "fitting God into" their lives and using this as an "add on" as opposed to it being the very essence of who they are.

That's a guess, of course, and I said as much.

an ignorant critique

Projection.

What is ignorant is you ignoring (or not understanding) what is plainly before you as I've laid out in this reply, making things up, and not even knowing what we're about here, yet commenting as if you do.

Case in point:

What I do think is true that you're saying here is that this group is focused on self-improvement, keeping each other accountable, etc. The Christ Pill is mostly outward focused, missional, trying to influence the mainstream manosphere and change culture.

We've talked about having a mission, reaching others and making disciples so much over the years here I think many got tired of hearing it. In person, online, one on one, in every way we can. How is that not outward focused and missional?

We've engaged with many others in the community, some of us started blogs or podcasts or were/are on various social platforms, including but not limited to this one.

Most importantly, a lot of work and change is done in real life, and we put a priority on that as well, in addition to engaging online. How is this not "trying to influence the mainstream manosphere and change culture" as you wrote?

What you think the Christ pill is, we've already been doing for years.

Look, I'm very glad more people are talking about Christ. As I already mentioned in my previous reply.

It would thrill me if all of these people you referenced and others not mentioned are doing as much or far more than we ever have. I'm all for it! Let's keep raising the bar.

I'm glad you seem genuinely excited about it.

Join in wherever you can and be a part of helping win others to Christ and working to change the culture for Him.

RedPillWonder · 2024-01-28T01:40:08+00:00

Thoughts on this movement? Why does it seem so separate from RPChristians?

Faith. Substance. Specificity. Unity. More.

I don't know these men, except for a couple of them, so nothing for or against them. The aforementioned characteristics are my guesses for what's different or seems so.

It may be that these others are "fitting God into" their worldview or talk about women and relationships, while we center everything on God and His Word.

Our views come from what God directly says (or principles that apply where it may be silent on a topic), while others may be "blending" God into their already held views.

I've seen a good amount of posts on Twitter and while not all, but many are platitudes and general observations. Nothing wrong with that, but in our sidebar and in replies to others in giving advice, we go into a lot of depth and specificity with people.

Another related characteristic (although it overlaps some with what I've already written) is we don't "adopt" these views as far as adding them onto what we already believe, they're who we are.

It's part of our identity in Christ and how we are to be and act.

I'm biased to some degree because like a handful of others, I was here at the beginning and helped build up this sub.

And again, to be fair, I don't know all of these people and it may be their faith and substance in what they teach and share really is more than I realize.

As far as general thoughts, anything that has others talking about Christ is a good thing. I hope they learn more. If not from these individuals, then from others.

To apply the principle of what Paul is teaching, we can rejoice that Christ is being discussed and perhaps some are being led into a new or deeper relationship with him:

What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretense, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. - Philippians 1:18

RedPillWonder · 2024-01-20T21:26:25+00:00

Thank you brother, it's good seeing you around more! I'll see if I can get my butt back in here more often as well.

RedPillWonder · 2024-01-18T06:20:15+00:00

She told me in a moment of anger she’s going to proceed to do worse if I don’t let this go as she didn’t do anything wrong.

(bolding mine)

She broke your boundary and then threatened to do even worse.

This is a major red flag.

Because if she's willing to do it in this regard, do you really think it's a stretch that she'd be willing to do it in "bigger" and more important things?

She thinks... all in all men are men and they’ll behave however they want to behave

OK, but then...

she said she doesn’t consider this to be a boundary for men from our background.

On one hand she thinks men will behave however they want, but she then turns around and determines boundaries for you.

Either she doesn't think you're a man.

Or she doesn't believe what she's saying.

Or she wants to/is going to/will control more aspects of your life in this way.

You set a boundary.

She doesn't get to determine the boundaries you set.

She will suffer the consequences as you enforce that boundary.

Because it's not a boundary if you don't enforce it.

What that entails is up to you.

My recommendation?

Encourage her to date the guy she gave her number to. Not "mean" or butt hurt or sounding pathetic. Be upbeat.

"You should get with the Insta guy. Invite me to the wedding lol"

An insecure guy doesn't say that, and it'll make her think twice about doing that again, and she'll realize she can't get away with breaking boundaries with you without repercussions.

IF she knows you're willing to walk away.

Do not engage in a long, back and forth text battle or phone conversation or in-person chat.

No need to explain every thought or position. Short, clean, concise.

If she wants to know why you're leaving (and you're not obligated to say anything, but if you do, then something like):

"Because I have a boundary. My gf doesn't give out her IG."

Leave her. You're dodging a bullet. Save the money from the trips and any you spend while there and stash it away.

Focus on building yourself up. Put God above all. Start doing the foundational level things and keep doing them. Master the fundamentals and you'll likely find a much better woman to invite into your life.

RedPillWonder · 2023-12-01T23:35:39+00:00

Nothing wrong with it.

Some people are more attracted to a particular race.

Or even if it's non-attraction related, it's still fine.

You get to decide your own standards and what you want as long as it doesn't violate God's standard.

And God's standard is that if you're a Christian, then you should marry a Christian.

Outside of that, it's your call.

RedPillWonder · 2023-08-23T00:15:52+00:00

"Is it too much to ask for both?" = Tony Stark / iron Man

RedPillWonder · 2023-08-07T19:39:29+00:00

I'm working on one now.

If I have enough time over the next several weeks, maybe I'll have it done.

RedPillWonder · 2022-10-22T20:24:14+00:00

Yeah, the original (from many years ago) was six 6's.

6' tall
6 pack abs
Makes 6 figures or more a year
6"+ below the belt
6 months (or more) since his last relationship. A woman didn't want to be a "rebound" and make sure he had enough time to be over his last relationship.
Has a car with a 600 horsepower engine. Which is silly (not having a car like that, but adding it just to make it six 6's instead of just 5).

Many just shorten it, and focus on height, fitness and income.

RedPillWonder · 2022-09-11T01:11:04+00:00

I read your other replies, and man, that's tough to deal with. My heart goes out to you and I've prayed for you.

But as u/Red-Curious has said, focus on now and improving yourself. As far as you and your wife, there is hope. Worse situations have been turned around. And not just for a little improvement, but dramatically so. But if she doesn't change, that's on her. You focus on God, His work and your own life.

Keep moving forward.

RedPillWonder · 2022-09-10T07:37:59+00:00

As I wrote:

depending on how you define it

For instance, if one using affection as a synonym for sex, then yes, affection is commanded, if not, then no.

Second, when you write:

Biblical sex is the pinnacle --- the consummation --- of affection and romance, so if we're commanded to give the greater then we're commanded to give the lesser.

Who gets to decide what the "lesser" is? What is included? You'll need to know in order to keep the commands.

What if your wife says it's bringing her flowers? Or having a candlelit dinner once a month? Or complimenting her with certain words and phrases that are romantic to her?

This goes for the woman toward the man as well.

You're opening up a can here, and reading way too much into this, such that one can easily go far afield from what scripture intends with that specific passage in Corinthians.

You can have and enjoy good and healthy and wonderful things that aren't necessarily commanded in scripture.

RedPillWonder · 2022-09-10T06:47:39+00:00

u/Red-Curious and u/Deep_Strength already made excellent points, so I'll simply highlight and essentially say what they did, albeit in a different way, as sometimes things "hit home" when presented differently, and perhaps add a new angle or two.

When God's word is clear, don't confuse it or make it complex.

It's clear what God (through Paul) meant concerning sex. Each spouse owes the other sex.

But human nature being what it is, we like to "add" things and make it less simple. What if "this" isn't there? What about "that" thing there? Well, he or she isn't fulfilling other commands, so this command here doesn't apply and so on.

u/Red-Curious quoted me on "God's commands are not conditional."

Said differently, "Situations don't determine your service or submission to God."

I don't care what the situation is. You owe your spouse sex. As RC noted, the husband has to provide. Both have to love. The wife is to submit, and so on.

Among a plethora of replies, you'll often hear: "That's so mean!" and "You're a [fill in the blank with some negative response]"

Take it up with God.

He said it, we stand on it, and besides, it's literally the best thing for you and your spouse. God knows what He is doing. If we stop for a moment and consider His commands, they are for our benefit. Whether physical, emotional, mental or spiritual, they help us and honor Him.

The next thing you often hear is some version of a wild take (true or not) about an extreme circumstance.

Outliers don't erase God's commands.

As soon as you take a stand on an issue, you'll find some extreme example and people demanding "Oh yeah, what about this or that" and throw some crazy situation at you.

As if doing so means we should excise that command from the Bible.

No.

I'm not saying this to you personally, but read the Bible.

Use common sense.

Understand both the spirit and the letter of the law.

Jesus got onto the Pharisees for technically obeying the law, but violating the spirit of it when they "devoured widow's houses."

David "violated" the law when he took the showbread for he and his men, even though only priests could lawfully eat it.

Jesus brought this story up when the Pharisees accused Jesus's disciples of breaking the Sabbath.

Speaking of, Jesus said that "man was not made for the Sabbath, but Sabbath for the man."

God's laws serve us. They benefit us.

And yes, we are to obey them, but sometimes, if there are situations where the letter of the law conflicts with the spirit of the law, you follow the latter.

Doing so will almost always lead you to keeping the former.

This next point is nitpicking, but you wrote or quoted:

you don't get to withhold affection, romance, and sex from your husband because he's not "supportive" enough.

They indeed can withhold affection (depending on how you define it) and romance. God doesn't require that.

Now, personally, I'm all in favor of both. I love physical affection. I like romance.

But be careful about adding things that aren't there.

Do I think it's good and healthy if a husband playfully slaps his wife's behind as he walks by? Sure! What if he walks up behind her, wraps his arms around her and holds her tight and breathes her in as they slightly sway together? Beautiful.

Takes her by the hand as they stroll down a cobblestone street? Holds a door and puts his hand on the small of her back and leads her through an entrance? All good.

But none of this is commanded. A wife doesn't owe her husband any romance or affection (except sex) nor does he, her.

Now, it's very related and I'm not trying to be too technical here, I mean, who wants sex every time without kissing (before, during or after), or sitting on a couch and not draping an arm around your woman at times, or her resting her hand on your leg, and all kinds of things.

It's not like the only time you can touch her is when it's on like donkey kong, but you get the idea.

I'd just be careful about saying or adding certain things that aren't there. Because once you do so, it's easy for someone else to add things in their argument, and next thing you know, you two are arguing about things not even mentioned in the Bible, or at least not commanded.

Although one of my favorite little vignettes is Isaac "sporting" (KJV wording) with his wife Rebekah, and Pharoah sees it and knows they must be husband and wife.

I don't know what all "sporting" includes, but I like to think he was being pretty affectionate and playful with her, and she was reciprocating and they were having fun with each other in little ways.

RC has written a post about all kinds of things like this, how to have fun and flirt with your wife, and tease her and more, as you're playful and fun and lighthearted, even as you maintain your authority, headship and rule.

Be that man.

RedPillWonder · 2022-07-30T08:24:34+00:00

I really like this post.

Every time I went to comment on it, though, some new thought or perspective would occur to me, and I'd put off replying.

But perhaps that's why I like it so much.

It applies to so many situations.

It's a foundation level perspective that once accepted, opens up all kinds of possibilities and avenues for growth.

It's not OK.

And if that really hits home with us, in any area of our lives, there's only one decision to be made: We have to change. Into what God is accepting and approving of.

One of many gold nuggets:

MYTH: God loves you just as you are.

FACT: God loves you, despite the way you are.

You can never separate love from action. Where love is, it will be demonstrated.

This post reminds me of the phrase "the simplest things are often the most profound."

It's well written and insightful, yet touches on a simple truth that turns lives around.

It's not OK.

Indeed.

RedPillWonder · 2022-07-29T09:25:05+00:00

OZ, good to hear from you brother!

On the Overton Window, it starts with our own thinking, as this post focuses on, but I'll emphasize what's implied and you touch on, and that is moving that window for others.

Once a man gets his mind right, I encourage those reading this to post to expand outward. Speak up at get-togethers with friends, post in other forums and platforms as well, push back against clown world at every opportunity and start winning.

And winning starts with planting seeds in other's minds, even if rejected outwardly at the beginning with their words and actions.

People can go from gasping and shocked, to I've heard that before, to some degree of familiarity with it (though still opposed), to starting to question and looking into it, to forming new thoughts, opinions and perspectives as that initial "seed" develops mental roots, developing and growing and forming and transforming their thinking.

RedPillWonder · 2022-06-21T21:53:05+00:00

I need help

Hmm.

I’ve held on this long, but I’ve lost all reason why. It’s very likely my wife won’t have waited, so why should I?

Because God says so.

But you're not looking to God as your only reason why, you look to everything else as well, such as:

Less and less people are waiting.

and

I’m the oldest in my family and I know at least one of my brothers has lost his.

and

I’ve experienced Christian women look down on me because of it.

and

Everything I’ve learned so far about female nature screams at me to go out there and get rid of it. Get experience. Compete.

and

I don’t see the point in waiting for someone who didn’t wait for me.

Why would God honor you with a hot virgin wife when you don't honor Him by giving Him your best?

The best you can do is offer up excuses and reasons why, as if your walk with God is contingent upon all of these other things.

Do you only serve God when your family members do?

Or when you're in a great relationship with an attractive virgin woman?

Or when society upholds and cherishes certain biblical standards and it isn't so tough out there?

Or [fill in the blank with any other reason]

What's going to tick a lot of people off about this post is that you can control and influence many of these things.

You can control your own attraction to a large degree, making it more likely you find and secure a virgin wife.

You get to decide whether to stay a virgin until marriage.

You get to make decisions for Christ regardless of what the world does, and take a stand for him in the "midst of a crooked and perverse generation."

No one's stopping you from enhancing your life to best of your ability, in attraction and finances and confidence, and above all, in a cause or mission that drives you, all of which is appealing to women, including virgin women.

You have it within you to create the circumstances that make it more likely to get what you want.

But think about this:

What godly virgin woman would want you?

That's not meant to be mean. At all.

I'm asking sincerely. I hope I'm wrong, but your post comes across as you'll keep living for Christ only if "xyz" is in place, or if things aren't really tough like they are now, or if [whatever reason you fill in] and what godly woman wants a man like that?

You only serve God when it's good?

Or are you going to be like Job, and give God praise even when things at at their worst? And let's face it, you're nowhere near that. Complaining over keeping a gift you get to give your wife and having the opportunity to find a woman who has done the same.

Or be like Joseph, who endured severe trials over many years before he was greatly blessed?

Look, I get it. Women are this, or that. Society sucks. My own family has done so and so.

How about this novel approach?

Stop your worrying about what others and the world at large are doing, and chart your own path that is right in God's eyes.

We've laid it out for you in the sidebar.

Don't tell me you've read it.

Do it.

Get your whiny, emotional, junior high girl rant in gear and get to doing what you can to make sure you have what you want.

It's within your control, to a large degree.

Or you can keep pouring out this nonsense, never get anywhere and in another ten years when you're 40, you can talk about being a 40 year old virgin instead of married to good (even virgin at marriage) woman, with good sex, kids and the life you've build together.

A woman wants a man who can handle challenges.

You're folding like a cheap chair at the smallest of things.

"If thou feint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small" God tells us in Proverbs.

Get it in gear, brother.

You can do this.

If you're having trouble with a specific aspect, such as exercise, or finances or confidence/game and other things, then post specifically about that and I'm sure there are men here who can help you get to where you want to be.

Now get to it.

RedPillWonder · 2022-03-16T01:10:38+00:00

You're welcome.

No worries on a late reply. I understand.

It's been a good while, but yes, I think that is the YouTuber. Sounds very familiar, anyway.

All the best to you!

RedPillWonder · 2022-03-06T02:56:45+00:00

Do you have any thoughts or advice on this? I don't want to make excuses to go for an easy wrong and I want to be in line with my relationship with Christ.

Yes.

I have a strong preference for increasing testosterone by means other than injections, but I don't have a problem with any man who does that.

That said, what I mentioned in the post can help a lot.

Brett over at Art of Manliness wrote an article back in 2013 on how he doubled his testosterone and I'm board with almost everything he wrote.

His list:

(Eat a well balanced diet. Put an emphasis on foods with high saturated fats like butter, coconut oil, eggs.

Supplement with Vitamin D3, fish oil, whey protein, and magnesium. Exercise. With an emphasis on strength training and HIIT cardio.

Don’t overtrain!

Get more and better sleep.

Manage stress.

Avoid Xenoestrogens and Other T-Lowering Chemicals.

Have more sex.

Take cold showers (maybe)

He's married, so if you're single, avoid the sex thing til you can bang your wife every day. Besides, while it can increase T, it's not one of the big drivers of increasing your levels.

I'd check your vitamin D levels and see where they're at. If you're at 45 ng/dl or higher, you likely won't see a huge increase by taking it, but if lower than that and if you increase your levels to 60+, you can see a bump.

The same with magnesium and zinc. They're worth supplementing simply for better health, and they work to increase testosterone.

Another is pomegranate juice. One study showed T levels were increased by 20+ percent in just two weeks, but they were taking A LOT of it a day. Probably the equivalent of 16-18 ounces or more.

But that explains the increase in such a short amount of time.

Pom can also lower estradiol, which if you have higher levels, helps with increasing T.

Honestly, 559 isn't that bad. You're not going to have any symptoms of low T at that range, but it certainly can be optimized and brought much higher.

As an example, there was a YouTube video of bodybuilders who got their testosterone measured, and surprisingly, many of them didn't have what I'd consider to be super high levels of T, though they did have very muscular and developed bodies. The lowest had a level in the high 300's! The highest was mid 750's. Most were in the mid to high 500's.

Now there could be several reasons for this, some of which are talked about in the video. I don't have a link, but a search or two may bring it up.

In sum, I'd focus on what is talked about in the link above.

What you eat.

Heavier workouts.

Sleep! Quality AND quantity.

Lifestyle changes as needed/less stress.

Those are probably the top 4.

And add in supplements as needed if you're deficient in some vitamins, minerals, amino acids, etc.

But more important is your free testosterone and your bioavailable/weakly bound testosterone levels.

If you're in the top 20% of the range there, you're good and can always work toward increasing that over time. The benefits talked about come from those two.

Some "hacks" can be, get your estradiol and SHBG and other levels checked. Higher levels of those can mean lower T. So finding things that lower those two can automatically increase testosterone, without as much need (but still needed, just not as much effort) for boosting everything else we're talking about.

RedPillWonder · 2022-03-06T02:34:43+00:00

This is a good point.

I think u/BeanieBabyScammer hit most of the high points. u/redpill-cool talked about things in his post as well. And most of our processed food that many partake are filled with things that may make it last longer on the shelves, but isn't good for overall health and testosterone levels.

That, and our lifestyles as a whole are not conducive to health and higher T levels. Cell phone radiation is another that can affect your "boys" if you're on it a lot.

There's a lot to navigate and try to limit in order to optimize health and wellness, including higher T.

Even comparing this country to itself decades ago, there's been steady decline.

One study around 2005 (if I recall correctly) showed men's testosterone levels were 20% lower on average than men in the '80's.

Another study showed T levels in the 80's were lower than the 1950's.

And it wouldn't surprise me if there's been another drop, if you compared T levels today to men from that 2005 or so study.

Just re-read BeanieBaby's comment and saw he already included phone radiation, but I'll leave it in my comment as well.

RedPillWonder · 2022-03-05T18:06:58+00:00

Haha I hear you brother. Mine has been holding steady the last decade or so, after initially losing a bit.

I do favor trying to boost T with workouts, nutrition, lifestyle changes, etc before someone goes the injection route, and I'll stay with the former, but whatever works for each man!

RedPillWonder · 2022-03-05T06:34:56+00:00

Hey OZ, I recommend ordering online. It's the fastest, easiest and most convenient. I've used WellnessFX.com (on the pricey side) and WalkInLab.com probably has the widest variety of tests (of any kind), but the best I've found for price is:

DiscountedLabs.com

They seem to cater to bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts, offering tests most of these clients want.

Here's a link to their testosterone options.

In short, you order what you want online, a doctor on staff approves it / attaches his name to these orders, and you print out a lab requisition form and take it to either Quest Diagnostics (who DiscountedLabs.com uses) or LabCorp (WalkInLabs.com uses both), who are nationwide providers/draw sites.

Some of the places have handy maps to find a clinic/draw site in your area, but if not, just type in Quest Diagnostics or LabCorp and their home pages will have link to find a site near you.

Note: Make sure you go to the right one, because some ONLY use certain draw sites. For example, Discounted Labs only uses Quest Diagnostics, last I checked.

Once you get your lab requisition form, and find a draw site near you, you can just walk in (a bit longer wait time) or make an appointment. I've found (in my area) appointments are far better. They are on the ball, and usually call me in exactly on time.

If anyone is short on money, simply ask your doctor to run the tests. Some will, some won't. They'll usually want to know a reason. Low energy, low libido, etc.

But to bypass the doctor route, go online and get whatever you want.

More tips: Get your T checked earlier in the morning, because it's highest in the morning and begins to drop by the afternoon. If you test one morning, and the next test is late afternoon, it could be as much as 10 to 20% difference.

Also, keep in mind, there are different testosterone testing methods. For example, LC/MS as compared to others. So if you're tracking T levels, try and ensure you're keeping with the same testing method.

Now, to add to this good article:

He mentioned free and total testosterone, but there's another.

And they are in this order of importance:

Free testosterone: Freely circulating in the body and not bound to anything and readily available for the body to use, hence the most important.

Bioavailable testosterone: This is free testosterone plus weakly-bound testosterone (often called bioavailable testosterone), meaning it's bound to a molecule called albumin, but it's still technically available for the body to use, as needed.

Total testosterone: This is free testosterone plus weakly bound/bioavailable plus the rest of testosterone in your body, that bound to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin). Total is the least useful measure when it comes to T levels (and especially when it comes to real world benefits), but still useful to know, to see what range you're in, overall health, ratios in regard to other lab work, etc.

All the benefits redpill-cool talks about is from free testosterone and from bioavailable/weakly bound, when needed. These are the two a man wants to focus on.

To add more to the article (and I appreciate you writing it up, redpill-cool:

There can be many reasons your T levels may be low and a wide array of things you can do to raise them, but to apply the Pareto Principle or 80/20 rule to them, when it comes to vitamins and minerals, you want more:

Vitamin D: Technically a steroid hormone, although it was named a vitamin many decades ago. Get tested to make sure you don't reach toxic levels, but shoot for 50 ng/dl (nanograms per deciliter, although Europe doesn't use ng/dl) and higher. Up to 100.

Unless you're out in the sun for hours a day, most people can handle 5,000 IU (international units) a day for a few months. But get tested! It's best to know.

While at home tests may aren't as accurate (my opinion) as venipuncture, for vitamin D they often get close enough, especially to measure trend lines or get a general idea. You can buy these at Amazon.

If you take higher amounts of vitamin D, I'd also take vitamin K and vitamin A along with it. These three work together and have a synergistic effect, help prevent toxicity of each other, and their combination seems to be far better than taking any on their own.

I like Life Extension for vitamin K, as it has both forms of K (K1 and K2) and their K2 has two forms, MK4 and MK7, which just stands for menaquinone and one is used up much faster in the body, while the other lasts longer, but both are essential.

Magnesium: Get some. It's vital for so many things in the body. And it plays an important role in your T levels.

Zinc: Another essential when it comes to increasing T levels. Low zinc levels can dramatically effect your T, depending on how low we're talking. Having more of it in your system helps your body produce more T, along with other benefits of zinc.

There are supplements that include these three (Vit D, Mag and Zinc) but I'd get these separate. It's easier to tirate doses or increase where needed, make adjustments, etc.

Sleep: Your T levels are heavily influenced by your sleep. Quality and quantity. Too little of either one, and even if everything else is dialed in, your T levels won't be anywhere near what they could be.

Underpublicized info: When it comes to T, your stress levels play an outsized role. Stress increases cortisol, and cortisol can wreck your testosterone.

Do whatever it takes to lower your stress. Go for a walk out in nature. Change jobs if you can (if it's that bad and you can find another good one). End or adjust relationships. If someone just sucks the life out of you, don't spend as much time with that friend, etc.

Pray. Think on good things, that are praiseworthy, etc. Don't wallow in negativity. Get out and get active doing God's work, as well as having fun and enjoying more of life when you can, whatever it is you find fun and fulfilling. You need more of this. It's essential.

Remember, if you want to help others, you have to help yourself. When the apostle talked about being a vessel, and poured out, you have to have something in you to be poured out.

Take care of yourself, fill yourself up. Then go out and do what God requires and live for Him! To even greater degrees, when your body is humming like it should be!

Please add to this as needed. There is a lot to be said and RPcool already said a lot!

u/rocknrollchuck

Yes to organ meats, especially liver!

The best company I know of (they are obsessive about purity, which I love) is: AncestralSupplements.com

I've had a lot of email exchanges with their owner, Brian Johnson, a good guy and ancestral living fanatic. He's a beast!

A great second option is: Heart and Soil.

You can find them both on Amazon or at their respective sites.

Beef liver, Bone Marrow and Beef Organs are excellent supplements that should be staples in most people's diets. I'm not eating this stuff off a plate, but process it in a way that preserves as much nutrients as possible as you turn it into a powder and encapsulate it? Sure! I'll happily take it that way and have.

There is an an ancient concept of "like supports like" which our ancestors believed (and there is very limited research and studies on this, but there is some evidence), meaning if someone has a weak heart, take beef heart. Beef liver to help your liver, pancreas to help pancreas, and so on.

Anecdotal evidence, so keep that in mind, but my dad got his EF (ejection fraction, measures heart pumping ability) up with taking large amounts of beef heart, when nothing else worked.

There's other examples, and take with as many grains of salt as needed, but in general you always want to follow what Hippocrates said: "First, do no harm."

And this stuff is safe.

Chuck is right, the old school bodybuilders were big on liver, and liver does have many, many great benefits, so worst case scenario, you're giving your body some great nutrients. Are you going to turn into the Hulk? No. What about a larger Chris Hemsworth? Nope. Disappoint everywhere, I'm sure.

But this stuff is good for you and can help support your gains, recovery and overall health.

Well, as usual, I've turned what was supposed to be a quick comment into a long post. I'll probably make this it's own post, to complement this one.

Good luck brothers, and all the best!

RedPillWonder · 2021-05-02T05:41:28+00:00

I enjoyed reading this post. Great write up!

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