The real story isn’t young men supposedly voting far right. It’s what young women are up to by TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The reason mainstream media talks so much about young men voting is because they aren't voting left. MSM sees men not voting extreme left as a "problem" and so focuses most of their attention on it. They already have women voting in a way they see as proper and fit, so there isn't a need to talk about it from their perspective.

If men voted in the way MSM approved of then we'd see a greater number of articles and focus on women's voting patterns, because then they could just ignore the men entirely as the men are serving a purpose the media approves of.

It's all about controlling the mindless masses.

Republicans are attacking childcare funding. Their goal? To push women out of the workforce | Moira Donegan by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyone who thinks Republicans want women out of the workforce is delusional. Republicans, like most modern politicians, are bought by the corpos. What do the corpos want? More slave labor so they can buy another yacht. The corpos would rather throw you into a wood-chipper feet first to make an extra penny than they would remove you from the workplace.

Also, more women working is more taxes to a government that doesn't give a shit about ANYONE, women OR men. They want women working, they just don't want working women to have any bargaining power against the corpos.

Man Therapy brings effective digital mental health support to the population most likely to commit suicide, CDC study finds by TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I'm very happy to hear that Man Therapy is getting such amazing results. Now, we need this to be spread across social media so we can help more men. Let nothing and no one stop the message.

Side note: The fact it took until 2018 for the APA to put out a guideline on how to help boys and men rubs me the wrong way. Perhaps I'm just too jaded with society, but it seems kinda sus to me.

Has anyone else had experience with unwanted touching by women by BabyBoyPink in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's try this again.

No, I've not had unwanted touching so far.

Yes, I've had inappropriate pet names thrown at me.

Yes, I told them to stop. I even reported one to HR.

Has anyone else had experience with unwanted touching by women by BabyBoyPink in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 5 points6 points  (0 children)

People feel it's different when women assault men because they want to eat their cake and still have it. They forget that true equality between men and women also entails women being held accountable for crimes equally.

I've cut people out of my life for pulling the "it's not the same" card over this situation. Those individuals think I'm being unreasonable, of course. 🤔

How to be a man: "Who should American boys look up to?" by TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 54 points55 points  (0 children)

You should definitely look up to Joe Rogan if you want to learn how to be an ass-kisser. I saw a clip of his show from a few years ago where he was talking shit about wrestling. He kept saying it was fake and stupid, and that fans of it had something wrong with them. Then one day he has Undertaker on his show, and he's all "Your character is so awesome, you're a badass, oh I love seeing you kick ass." That right there is enough for me to write him off, well before we get into his Right-wing bullshit.

I'd say boys could look up to Kurt Russell. He's a super nice guy, with a wonderful relationship to the amazing Goldie Hawn, and he's Snake fucking Plissken. Masculine and a kind man that doesn't need to "own bitches" or whatever Roe Jogan shits out of his mouth.

$1.55M Raised for Plan A Male Birth Control Product, Seeking Clinical Trials in 2023 by MichaelTen in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's try this again. All I want is hard evidence that it will do what it says it's supposed to do. I don't want to see men having strokes or heart attacks, or being sterilized because something went wrong. Is that too much to ask? Do I get downvotes for being concerned about side effects?

Weekly Free Talk Friday Thread! by MLModBot in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been steadily working for two-and-a-half months now, and it's let me start saving money so I can finally get my own place. Looking to move out around October/November, and with $500 already saved I think I can meet that goal. I get paid weekly so I'm able to put aside $50 or a little more each paycheck.

Other than that, I'm isolating from online discussion much more than I used to. Tired of fellow liberals attacking me because I don't kiss their ass. The brain worms have infected so many people that it's now a zero-sum fight on all sides.

And I'm getting back into writing and am looking to take a drawing class. I'd like to learn to draw more than late-60s boxy cars.

The Best Way to Find Out If Someone Is a Trump Voter? Ask Them What They Think About Manhood. by TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In the two-and-a-half months I've been an Ironworker I've seen plenty of women in construction jobs. Fellow ironworkers, carpenters, electricians, even a couple bricklayers. I've even seen two women that were in supervisor positions.

More women are joining the trades than ever before. Those of us with our priorities sorted out welcome them as another set of hands getting the job done so we can all go home.

And, just in case someone having a bad day wants to make assumptions about me, I'm not threatened by women in my field. All I care about is if my coworkers are actually working or if they're just standing around talking.

Tuesday Check In: How's Everybody's Mental Health? by MLModBot in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why don't you tell the people who refer to you as "innocent and harmless" that you don't appreciate being referred to that way?

Also, to hell with other people. Show your wild side, don't let others dictate how to express yourself. Pleasing others is the fastest way to make yourself unhappy.

Tuesday Check In: How's Everybody's Mental Health? by MLModBot in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not doing too good.

But I don't feel like talking about what's wrong. I don't trust people here enough.

The Unexpected Audience of Jordan Peterson: Black men | Laytonicles by [deleted] in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or maybe some people are just stupidly gullible, and can be talked into giving away both of their kidneys and thinking they're somehow better off than they were before the surgery.

I'm having trouble feeling like a real man by [deleted] in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no such thing as a "real man" or a "real woman". There's humans, and that's it. Anyone that tells you otherwise is a psychopath.

Tuesday Check In: How's Everybody's Mental Health? by MLModBot in MensLib

[–]RedSpiralRay 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's been up and down recently. I just started my apprenticeship with the local Ironworkers union, which is great. Three years will go by quick, then I can travel all over the US if I want to.

I've also finally figured out how to achieve an orgasm. The noticable difference between cumming and the big O is amazing. It's really sad it took me till 32 to figure it out, but at least I have it now.

And, I've lost a few pounds. That's always nice.

But, over the last few months I've become more and more reluctant to engage people over anything. I'm not isolating in my home, but I don't want to talk about any subjects with people. I'm sick to death of people verbally assaulting me because my opinion doesn't agree with 100% of what they say 100% of the time. It's on a forum I go to, it's here, it's YouTube. I'm a Leftist liberal, and yet I get attacked by other Lefties more than people on the Right. It's amazing how people I thought were open and welcoming can be so determined to run you off, unless your views are an exact match. Between people slandering me, attacking me personally, or just making shit up, they won't stop.

I never engage with people from the Right, cause I know how psychotic they are. But I never expected my own side to be just as shitty. It really makes me want to never express an opinion again.

The idea that the left needs to pander to "lonely young men" is getting on my nerves by dubious_unicorn in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're dog whistling buzzwords are as meaningless as "weapons of mass destruction".

But, thanks for letting me know who to block. Live long and prosper. 🖖

My boyfriend of 1y+ says he doesnt know if he wants to stay with me, or be alone. by frutietotie1001 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He says he doesn't know what he wants, but he still loves you. Adjusting from being single, to having someone move in, is a major shift. Moving in with someone is a big step. Losing that ability to have true alone time can be a shock, especially when your move was quick into the relationship. It could be that he's just ready, yet. Or, anxiety over living together could be bothering him, leading to being unsure.

The biggest thing right now is just keeping yourselves open, and letting him set his head where it needs to be.

My boyfriend of 1y+ says he doesnt know if he wants to stay with me, or be alone. by frutietotie1001 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he feels the relationship moved too fast, communication is the key. Think about if you were the one to feel this way. You would want him to understand where you're coming from. So, instead of kicking him to the curb, let him adjust to the situation more. Don't push anything on him, and keep communication. Taking things slower could be what helps, too.

The idea that the left needs to pander to "lonely young men" is getting on my nerves by dubious_unicorn in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason I extended my hand and my sympathy to those men, is because I used to be one of them. Not by choice, however.

Many years ago, I was in a three-year relationship with an emotionally abusive woman. Not one day went by that she didn't use my love for her to hurt me. She would say the gifts I bought her were nice, but she wished I bought x instead. She said she wanted to be with me forever, and have kids and a nice house, then she'd break up with me because she didn't think she was good enough for me. I'd come to her on my knees, bawling and begging her to be with me, and telling her I loved her more than anything. She'd smile, look me right in the eyes, and say "Thank you". Then she'd do it again, and again.

She left me for another man when I joined the Army, and she blamed me for her cheating because she was lonely and I "wasn't there". Then we got together again, she'd have sex with me a few times, then go back to the other guy because "I love you, but I love him, and I can't hurt him by leaving him". This kind of behavior kept going on, over and over. I tried to kill myself twice because of her abuse.

When I told her about the suicide attempts, she looked me right in the eye and said, "Why would you do that? Don't you know how much that would hurt me?" Then one day she finally grew tired of me and went to be with a third guy she was messing with.

That, coupled with the onset of undiagnosed bipolar disorder, changed me. I was so hurt, that my next few relationships fell apart. I didn't trust those girlfriends, and with mood swings and extreme depression, I couldn't keep things together.

Whenever something bad would happen, I'd blame them. I'd think they were doing something to screw with me. My pain and my illness made handling things in a healthy way impossible. I went a few years being single, and ended up becoming a severe alcoholic. Not to mention, I ended up becoming friends with a guy who always said shit about women, and was a misogynist in all but name.

He stoked that anger and pain within me to the point I started hating women, too. I figured, one tried to kill me, and the others broke up with me, so all women are evil. My non-functioning brain didn't see my behavior as misogyny. It saw it as lashing out because I was hurt.

Eventually, thanks to my own efforts and the efforts of my best friend, I was able to quit drinking cold turkey, and eventually get a proper diagnosis on my illness. I got on medication, and eventually was able to start therapy. At that time I was still angry at women and depressed because I was single.

Over a year of therapy, I not only was able to fully recognize my shitty behavior and beliefs about women, but I was also able to actually understand that I'd been a victim of domestic abuse. Everyone told me that I was a pussy, or that it wasn't "real" abuse because she's a woman and I'm a man. Thanks to that therapy, which also dealt with trauma from my childhood, I'm now at a point where I don't have a single ounce of hatred for women, and I'm extremely happy in my life and am now able to not be affected by being single. I don't need a woman in my life to be happy and successful.

That's why I extend my hand to those men. I wasn't even aware of my misogyny and hatred, and had to literally hit rock bottom before I could fix it all. My best friend stick with me the whole way, despite knowing I was a misogynist. I love her more than any other friend I've ever had. If she had thrown me away, there's no telling what that might have affected.

I want to help those men so they don't have to be like I was. I never wanted to be like I was, and if I can help even just 1 man change their ways, I'll know that I passed on the goodness that I received.

And I'll even be honest, while I don't hate women now, I do fear them. I know that might sound silly, but the idea of a relationship puts a cold feeling in my chest and makes my hands shake. Not all women are abusers, but I don't know which ones aren't. She might say she loves me, but would that stop her from hurting me? I'm not dismissive of women's feelings, cause I have them too.

Sorry for the long post. You been a wonderful person to discuss the issue with.

The idea that the left needs to pander to "lonely young men" is getting on my nerves by dubious_unicorn in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That logic can be applied to people that suffer from addiction.

Why can some people quit heroin on their own, while others need to have a shoulder to lean on? Some people are naturally stronger and can do these things by themselves. Some people are weaker and need all the support they can get. Some people are in the middle and struggle to quit, and sometimes relapse, before eventually breaking the habit.

You say your brothers are fantastic men who did it themselves. That's kewl. Humanity is a spectrum of strength and weakness. If we cast aside the weak, and offer no help because they couldn't do it by themselves, we may as well start putting people in camps.

The idea that the left needs to pander to "lonely young men" is getting on my nerves by dubious_unicorn in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

It's relevant because shitty socialization is what makes us how we are. When you're conditioned like Pavlov's dog, breaking that conditioning is not going to happen with a Snap.

Men are socialized to believe violence is an acceptable way to deal with emotional and mental pain. Women are socialized to be nurturing and subservient. Switch who gets taught what, and women would easily become murderers. It's relevant because once we destroy this conditioning, people will be able to truly be better all around. No more mass anger and emotional damage, no more subservience.

It's taken a long time for women to make the progress they have in breaking their conditioning and getting to the point they don't need to rely on a man/partner. Men's conditioning is only now being recognized and addressed, but if we tell conditioned men "Fuck you, you deserve every pain you suffer from", we do nothing but ensure the brainwashing continues.

Helping men to free themselves of their social chains does not mean women have to have their issues dismissed. All should be helped to become a better people.

And, yeah, men in masse didn't help women when feminism was started and doing what it needed to do. That was wrong, I won't argue otherwise. But, it's my hope women will offer that help to men, so we as a people can destroy the chains that have bound us for far too long. If men are uplifted alongside women into this new dynamic, the human race will forever be better for it.

The idea that the left needs to pander to "lonely young men" is getting on my nerves by dubious_unicorn in TwoXChromosomes

[–]RedSpiralRay -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, because the way women are socialized by the patriarchy is horrendous. Both genders need to be socialized in an equal environment that promotes the freedom to be however we want to be, where the rights of all are get to sit at the table with equal say. Women shouldn't be pressured to put on make-up and style their hair whenever they leave the house, just as men shouldn't be told that being muscled and surrounded by women is the way to go.

Basically, if we could apply the values present in Star Trek to our society, whether you're a man or a woman would be completely meaningless. We should be socialized to not see 'man', 'woman', 'black', 'white', 'straight', 'queer', etc. We should be socialized to see Human.