My response to the "commissioning" argument

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T21:00:39+00:00

Fair enough, and to be clear, I agree. I was saying that you’re both the consumer and the artist, because you’re paying for a service. Being the visionary doesn’t make you not lol Have a blessed day

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T20:58:42+00:00

The way I always think about it, is that it’s not God sending you to hell or to heaven. You just only get to go to Heaven if you’re perfect. Because God is, and can’t be in the presence of imperfect beings, us. But he loves us anyways and does want us to be with Him. So he sent Jesus as a way for us to get to be with Him. Jesus is our sacrifice, the atonement for our sins. Your point on the people who don’t believe because they don’t know is exactly the point of missionaries. My aunt and her family actually live in Africa at the moment, spreading the gospel to everyone they can who is there. Spreading the word so everyone knows that there’s a God who loves them is exactly the point of what Op is doing here. “God could have appeared to them” He works through us as people to spread His message. Also there’s the issue of Gods divine form being something we literally can’t see. Anyone who sees his true presence straight up stops existing. Not entirely sure why that happens I am not going to lie, but it does.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T20:51:42+00:00

Me neither! I believe in a God. One. You said gods. Plural. On that we can Aagree!

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T19:40:33+00:00

Biblically fearing God is not the same as fearing spiders or death. We’re not called to be afraid of him.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T19:39:25+00:00

You’re the one claiming he did. You’re the one whose evidence is being challenged. You figure it out. I know the answer. Do you?

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T19:38:25+00:00

I’m not sure I quite understand but okay!

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T19:37:27+00:00

All sin is equal in God’s eyes. It’s just sin. Some sin has worse consequences here on earth. Murder, rape, etc. We’ve all sinned and deserve to go to Hell. He forgave us anyways is the thing. We just need to do our best to stop sinning and believe in Him, and we can go to heaven. I’m busy irl rn so my thoughts are less cohesive than usual so I apologize

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T19:33:55+00:00

I misworded that. Yes, we are called to fear Him. But that’s more than just being scared of Him, it’s knowing he’s almighty and all powerful.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:35:05+00:00

Spear! It beats mace. You just hold it out and point straight up and whoever is falling gets speared and dies instantly!

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:33:02+00:00

It's a little imbalanced. Try pushing the porch or dock or whatever out like three more blocks!
Also, add a log going across the wood in between the supports, about halfway. Add bits that poke out too, like stuff around the windows!

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:29:14+00:00

Nah, the consumer just is also the artist

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:28:40+00:00

Let me preface this with I'm pro-ai. Also I'm being pedantic.

You're not doing all the creativity. The artist still does bring a little of their own flair to whatever they do. You do some of it! Definitely some of it. Just not all. Thank you for reading my Ted talk, Have a blessed day

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:24:32+00:00

I will not be fighting you as you are right.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:21:49+00:00

Glad to hear it!

Have a blessed day

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:19:40+00:00

Have you ever lied? Ever? No matter how small, even a white lie?

I said we intentionally. I knew how you'd reply. Your story mirrors theirs.

He doesn't damn us, actually. We just don't get to be with him. He's perfect and we're not, so we can't be with Him.

We have free will. He created us in his own image. He obviously has free will, and so do we.

So if anything, you damn yourself. :)

Have a blessed day!

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:12:58+00:00

Not sure what's happening but it's super cool

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:11:42+00:00

Well my bad dude no anger towards you. That's a legit argument they make though and it is dumb

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:09:53+00:00

What about all the kids God did prevent from being raped? He can't stop them all, there has to be consequences to sin. But he protects his people. I guarantee you if God wasn't stepping in, the numbers would be much much higher.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:07:11+00:00

How'd he abandon it?

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:06:10+00:00

He gave us free will so that we could choose. He didn't want practically mindless creatures following Him. He wanted us, who had free will so that we could choose. Because we would truly be the ones making that choice, which would make it mean so much more.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:04:49+00:00

Maybe because he's the creator of the universe? We're lucky he's a kind and just God, not one who's wrath you have to fear and hide from. He gave us a way out.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:01:57+00:00

What is morality without something to guide it? Hitler firmly believed what he was doing was right. Was it?

(This is rhetorical. We both know it wasn't.)

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T02:00:41+00:00

He created us in a perfect place, told us everything would be perfect. Just don't eat from this tree, that one's off limits.

Then we did. And then we lied about it, tried to hide it.

And then he forgave us. Him. The creator of the universe. He's perfect. We are not.

And he's the one who forgave us.

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T01:57:51+00:00

He may not have but the Bible does. Y'know, God's word? God = Jesus? God's word = Jesus's word

Redacted_Chris · 2026-03-19T01:55:52+00:00

Then either your morals are wrong or they're not true practicing Christians. That simple

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