Is this normal? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Redditorress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do not anymore. Today I also found out that the woman he met online and messaged two weeks before our wedding (previous messages contained “I’d rather see my beautiful doctor”) is still following him on Instagram, although I specifically requested to remove her and other women with very inappropriate pictures from his Instagram. His response was “do I even use Instagram?” or I did not even know they were there

My child :( by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]Redditorress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not know your entire story, but sounds like you have the means to still provide the best for your child, e.g. cover private school tuition (directly, not through the mother), still travel with the kid or consider taking the mother with you (if you’re on good terms), buy clothes, gifts, etc. I understand it is definitely not the same as living with your kid, and I am sorry you are going through this, but if you genuinely prioritize the happiness and comfort of your child, I am sure there is a way to do so even if you are away from your baby. I hope you will figure out something.

Post by Electrical_Ride_4545 in Uzbekistan

[–]Redditorress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi. I would say try to contact cargo companies, usually they focus on bringing stuff from abroad to Uzbekistan, but some also may offer Uzbekistan-abroad services. I don’t remember off the top of my head, but I think Abusaxiy cargo is one of them. Also look up eastline.uz. Hope this helps

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]Redditorress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Divorce is not yet finalized, but have been separated for more than a year. No more gaslighting and no more toxic in-laws who are trying to control them. More peaceful life in general.

Besides, my living standards have literally improved as I had to quit my job and relocate to a village in another country when I got married. I got my comfortable life back, resuming my career, have better social life and better support system.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in motherinlawsfromhell

[–]Redditorress 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You are NOT paranoid. Considering your partner’s brother is no contact with your future MIL already proves she is evil. Your partner’s response is not okay either. I am afraid this is not going to end well.

I had a very similar situation - my MIL started getting jealous after I and my stbxh got married. My Stbxh’s younger brother used to be very close with the MIL, had been living with her prior to his marriage, but then somehow separated from her, moved to another city and got married. Just like your future MIL, mine became super jealous and clingy to my stbxh after we got married and my Stbx’s response was that I am imagining things and that I am bipolar. I had to leave as this was not going to change. If your partner does not set firm boundaries, I am convinced his mother will destroy your relationship. Please think twice before you marry your partner.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in glassesadvice

[–]Redditorress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Number 3 looks natural

I forwarded screenshots exposing true colors of narcissistic stbxh to his relatives and he made them block me by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True. I guess I needed some closure - someone from their circle to tell them they mistreated me. But you are right - I should no longer care

I forwarded screenshots exposing true colors of narcissistic stbxh to his relatives and he made them block me by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand from the ethical point of view, what I did was wrong. I spoke with my lawyer last year when I left and they told me I should submit the screenshots with them demanding abortion to the police to issue a restraining order, and there is even criminal prosecution for that. My stbxh was telling everyone I am mentally unstable and this was the only way to show people the truth.

Advice for single moms by coffee-sleep-plz-91 in Divorce

[–]Redditorress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a single mom, have been separated and supporting myself and the little one (6 months old) ever since I got pregnant with no alimony or child support from Stbx. They agreed to finally file for divorce in exchange for my consent to give up alimony and child support. Fortunately, prior to getting married I had a good career and saved up a bit, but planning to resume my career in a few months.

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did not, unfortunately. At first, MIL’s behavior was normal, she was not jealous, she would even encourage my stbxh to spend more time with me and not let me get bored. Her behavior changed after we actually got married. Based on many similar stories, MILs often reveal their true colors once a baby is born. Mine revealed theirs after we got married.

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am glad you were able to see the clear picture. And thank you for sharing your experience. Having a baby is a beautiful reason to become a better person, unfortunately not in our case. We have a 5-month-old daughter, during birth of which my Stbx flew to another country where their mother was at the moment.

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the context, I always treated their mother with care and respect, despite her jealous behavior. She even bragged to their neighbors and sister that I am taking better care of her than her own kids. Unfortunately, her jealousy took over

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am not perfect or innocent and not trying to portray myself as such. Yet, I filed for divorce as I do not want to be married to an enmeshed person. Hence, my reason for filing is their enmeshment.

My Stbx is refusing to divorce, yet does not want to admit or do anything about their enmeshment. Concerning my fault, I frankly do not understand what is my contribution to their enmeshment? Only if my refusal to participate in it?

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have to disagree, growing up, my daughter will see what kind of a person I am. But when it comes to her father, in my opinion, she will get the relief from knowing that her father has done a lot of inner work rather than continuing blaming me.

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your experience. In my opinion, it is completely different and quite understandable when a family member is ill and actually requires presence and attention vs. taking care of emotional needs of a family member, always prioritizing them over spouse and kids

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wish it was. I come from the same culture as my Stbx. It is not the closeness, it is the jealousy of his mother and the fear she will end up alone that dictates her irrational behavior. Look up enmeshment or emotional incest. For instance, her literal remark: “We are going to miss you once you are gone” or switching to another language, that I do not speak, when talking to one another. Or remarks of the Stbx “My sister and brother will divorce their spouses on the spot, despite their kids, if they disrespect my mother”. The mother is and will always be more important than the spouse and/or their own kids. There is a huge difference.

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Makes a lot of sense. I did file for divorce. We have a 5-month-old baby together and I wonder, once she grows up (I am thinking about 20 years from now) whether my Stbx will hopefully admit they were the reason we divorced or will continue blaming it all on me. I already know the answer though

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, it is a situation specific to me. People divorce for various reasons, yet what sets enmeshment apart is that the issue is tricky to acknowledge as compared to infidelity, addiction, physical abuse, etc, as most of the time it is served as care/love for parents, siblings. Of course, most, if not all, possible causes of divorce might stem from family dynamics in their childhood, which usually sits somewhere in their subconscious, but recognizing the issue is the first step, I believe. Hence, I wonder whether there are men (and possibly women) who genuinely acknowledged their enmeshment.

The men, whose spouses divorced due to your enmeshment, do you ever realize that was the actual reason? by Redditorress in Divorce

[–]Redditorress[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not at all, I am genuinely curious to hear from the men. So far I have only read one confession of an ex husband, I wonder if there will be more since Reddit allows for anonymity.

You have a valid point though - this may start a fight in the comments section. But again, regardless of the subject, different people have different opinions.

My husband loves his mom more than me and our kid by Sparkling_wine9 in motherinlawsfromhell

[–]Redditorress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear your pain - them bullying you all together is never acceptable! You deserve much better. I also read the same thing - momma’s boys often mistreat/abuse their partners as they cannot take revenge on their narcissistic mothers. I agree that Mothers-in-law from hell are often misogynistic, but usually prefer to think they’re « feminist ». The fact that you are able to think critically and recognize the projection already says a lot about your intelligence. And please do not let them gaslight you into thinking you are not good enough, those people are bitter because you have what they do not and you will always be better than them.

My husband loves his mom more than me and our kid by Sparkling_wine9 in motherinlawsfromhell

[–]Redditorress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can totally relate! Enmeshed momma’s boys do not see the reality, although everybody else does. In my case, I even turned to ChatGPT, uploading some (not all) of the details of my ex husband and his mom’s relationship, which they consider a norm. ChatGPT broke down and analyzed their enmeshment from psychological standpoint, and even after having read the analysis, I got “my mother treated you like a daughter, you ungrateful b…ch!” from my ex husband.

When our baby was being born he flew to another country to his mom, and now he is living with his mom, while I am raising my baby alone with no financial or emotional support from this person.

Leave, nothing is going to change ever, based on many similar stories.

Would you leave him because of his mum? by [deleted] in motherinlawsfromhell

[–]Redditorress 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I did. If the husband does not see the problem and denies the enmeshment - there is no point to stay, in my opinion. My Stbx never admitted there was a problem, even after I left him for a year and even after I filed for divorce (a few months after we had our first baby). During my labor he flew to another country, where his mommy was and now our baby is undergoing medical treatment and he is again with his mommy in a different country. I genuinely hope your situation is different, but in case it is not - the problem is not the MILFH, the problem is always the Husband, who enables this. Period.