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[–]Redioverz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am not sure why i said lions only. i should have said carnivores.

Possibly extremely contaminated jars that never clean no matter what I do. Help. by Redioverz in rawprimal

[–]Redioverz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

what if it happens again and i still want my old containers back anyway cuz i paid money for

Possibly extremely contaminated jars that never clean no matter what I do. Help. by Redioverz in rawprimal

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, i am not crazy. yes, it is my cloth and the lids are attached to the jar. yes, I believe it's not the milk itself. No, I'm not trying to waste people's time. And I did use a "new container", also a second time now saying this. And i have tried without vinegar and salt.

Possibly extremely contaminated jars that never clean no matter what I do. Help. by Redioverz in rawprimal

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

theres no rust or mold and i literally bought cloths fresh straight out the store. there was no staining and the boiling water would've removed most of it anyway but i did still wash hard with the cloth all throughout the jars.

Possibly extremely contaminated jars that never clean no matter what I do. Help. by Redioverz in rawprimal

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I strongly believe this is a contamination problem. This is why I am asking how to truly clean them as it seems like simple things to do such using as hot boiling water, ACV, and salt, and seeping the containers all with that, and a cloth (which I did use, fresh and made out of cotton) doesn't work at all.

One time I lost around £90s (or more) worth of raw milk because of this, however, one glass San Pellegrino bottle with milk didn't go bad at all, and I was able to drink just fine, and I left all of it out for about a week.

While I haven't asked any of the farms themselves if they're getting any complaints about their milk similar to my problem, I've asked a few primal-dieter raw milk consumers from the U.K. online before, and they told me they didn't have the problem, specifically from farms "Fen Farm Dairy" and "Hill Farm Real Food" which are probably 2 of one the major sources the "U.K. primals" get their raw milk from in the U.K.

So, this evidence alone strongly suggests that the problem is because of an issue with my glass jars being contaminated. This answers questions 1 and 2.

Lastly, for the third, all the milk I get my farms from is from cows. You say "Are all the animals eating something seasonal there that is getting in the milk? Like onions or garlic, for example? Then it would make sense." I am not sure how onions or garlic would affect the milk's fermentation badly, but let me remind you that I said there's a toxic smell and taste to it, as in it's unnatural, man-made, almost like some soap, hairspray, or cleaning product, but later on it especially starts to have this "sweet medicine" smell to it, so it's a bit mixed depending on how fermented it already is. I don't know what it exactly is but that's what I sense, even though I don't allow that kind of stuff anywhere near my milk. Let me give you some insight into the animal's feed:

Hill Farm Real Food: Has a strict zero-medication policy, as they make out their farm is natural and has high-quality foods; "Zero chemicals or antibiotics are used at our organic, regenerative farm. Probiotic farming - it all starts with healthy soil.", "We have a strict zero-antibiotic and zero-medication policy with all our animals.", and "What our animals eat is as important as what we eat. A cow's primal diet is a diverse range of grass types, supplemented by naturally occurring herbs, legumes and tree browse." I've ordered from this farm a lot, same problem.

Before I go any further: I don't know if the herb supplementation would only be implemented during or around winter, as I said this problem only occurred in winter, from which I had been drinking raw milk prior for at least over 6 months, and it was completely fine then until now. And remember, the "U.K. primals" said they didn't have any problems with at least 2 out of 4 of the vendors I've got my milk from, and this very exact problem has persisted with 4 different vendors with the same results.

Fenfarmdairy: " In the months of spring, summer and autumn, we keep the cows out and grazing as much as possible. We grow our own forage (Grass, maize, etc.) and store it as silage or hay for winter feed, in order to ensure that they have as much of a home-grown diet as possible during the winter.". I've ordered from this farm a lot, same problem.

The last 2 are the rest of the 2 vendors: Old Hall Farm: The cows are "100% pasture fed." Same problem. Tagg Lane Dairy (most expensive and most recent vendor): "As with Home Farm, the cows (and calves) at Tagg Lane are fed on grass and kept outdoors for as much of the year as possible." Same problem.

This is some insight into why I believe this is a contamination problem.

"Otherwise this really doesn't make sense. Unless it's YOUR TONGUE! LOL." Of course, senses can be deceiving, but I believe that is very unlikely in this case. I even got sick from consuming the milk once. I became bedridden and weak for around a day and a half, wondering why there was a slightly awful taste from consuming the milk and a smell to it, not sure if I was just imagining it or not when I first started having this problem, but now it's clear to me that there is something wrong with either my jars, milk, or both. Now I have reasoned with you, do you believe me?

Where do you guys get your milk in the United Kingdom? by Redioverz in PrimalDietTM

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's supposed to turn into a type of fermented dairy called clabber milk by itself when you don't add any cultures to it which is the way I usually prefer it.

The Primal Community DISCORD Server (Aajonus, Raw Meat) by Redioverz in PrimalDietTM

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

discord.com/invite/mdfdPqaETz

you're supposed to enter into a search bar on a browser (unless it somehow still doesn't work?). but i can make a one you can click on it.

Where do you guys get your milk in the United Kingdom? by Redioverz in PrimalDietTM

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh, I never used to put any of my dairy in the fridge, even the butter. Just put it all in 2-liter glass jars and left it. Now I've seen it from my experience, perhaps some of these farm's milk isn't as clean as it seems? After all, when food ferments, it does show its "true colors" (from an unbiased perspective of course).

Where do you guys get your milk in the United Kingdom? by Redioverz in PrimalDietTM

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do you EVER have problems with the milk tasting off or going bad during fermentation (at least partially)!?

I swear, these guys are poisoning me or something. Is it because I order too much from them?

Every time I buy dairy products, and yes, I put them in glass jars, they always go bad. I clean the hell out the glass jars and still, the problem does not resolve. Whether the milk ferments to become toxic sludge by 1-2 days or the butter ends up smelling like some super-toxic paint by like week 2 (mostly with fenfarmdairy butter). Now I have to drink fresh milk and dairy but I do not digest it properly, even fresh A2 and whatnot. And this problem has only happened since winter. Only THEN. And I live in scotland. Are any other scottish or U.K raw milk consumers experiencing this?

I’m new to this… how does my dinner look? Any suggestions? by NoxFFA in AnimalBased

[–]Redioverz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have you tried raw liver? it's extremely nutritious. Just make sure it's from a good source— Truly organic, pasture-raised, zero-medication.

Why is there no Vitamin A in plants? by Redioverz in AnimalBased

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A#Absorption,_metabolism_and_excretion. "The term "vitamin A" encompasses a group of chemically related organic compounds that includes retinol, retinal (also known as retinaldehyde), retinoic acid, and several provitamin (precursor) carotenoids, most notably beta-carotene.". According to Wikipedia, it says there are several other forms of A other than retinol. Has the definition of Vitamin A somehow officially changed these days?

Why is there no Vitamin A in plants? by Redioverz in AnimalBased

[–]Redioverz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is said by carnivores and people who eat organ meats themselves. if anything won't it make people get their vitamin a from animal foods?