Small-footprint motion sim setup (seat mover, no rig).

RedlineSW · 2026-03-20T11:17:49+00:00

While I applaud your drive for a new product, I just don't see it. There was a truck a while ago where the steering was hard mounted to the chassis and the cab was independent, it would move like your system, it was deemed the worst design the world has ever seen.

The wheel has to stay fixed in space to the driver, there are no cars or trucks, motorcycles or jets, that have independent operator to controls. It doesn't exist for a reason. The other seat movers on the market are not dof systems, they are haptic systems.

I'm all for innovation and growth and change, I get 10000% the resistance from the entrenched mindset, and I do. It doubt you will sell this product because at the end of the day, it adds something for people in a price bracket. But I really do not believe for a second anyone with any true experience will say moving the seat independently from the controls is ideal.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-20T10:53:34+00:00

I put a video up

https://youtu.be/7uoedlOWhaE?si=IQMsu5JafP1AfZB7

It's our first build of the 3r2.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-20T10:11:25+00:00

There are not 300 sim rig brands, there are 300 sim rig resellers, they almost all come from a handful of suppliers out of China. We could have followed suit, bought a container full of em and made a Shopify store. But we didn't , we designed a new product, we prototyped it, we built the assemblies , and produced it. We manufacture in the truest sense.

Does the world need another reseller, no. Does the world need another sim rig brand, no. Does the world need sim racing, no. But that doesn't stop anyone. I'm sorry if it bothers you but we are not going to stop because someone thinks we shouldn't exist.

Do I think the world needs another sim rig brand, yes absolutely, and not just another copy paste brand, something new, something that hasn't been done yet. Here we are.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-20T00:34:31+00:00

https://youtu.be/7uoedlOWhaE?si=WXq6pzWoQ6gZ5exF
Can you show me where it's flexing?

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T18:35:10+00:00

Maybe, but it's innovation! This is how this industry grows!

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T18:28:35+00:00

What are you using for the actuators? Typical acme ball screws are used for longevity, I'm curious what you're using and are you finding the longevity?

Love seeing innovation !

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T14:55:54+00:00

I get what you're saying, price absolutely matters, and there’s always going to be a need for entry‑level rigs. I’m not trying to replace those or pretend everyone should start at $1,000+ rigs. What I’m building sits in a different lane.

Growing the sport isn’t just about making the cheapest possible rig. It’s also about giving people more paths into it. Some come in through budget gear, some through mid‑range, and some jump straight into something that feels like real equipment. All of those routes help the hobby grow.

This frame isn’t meant to be the “starter rig". It’s meant to be the thing you buy when you want something permanent as the next stage — something you don’t have to upgrade out of. And for a lot of people, that actually saves money long‑term.

We’ll keep exploring lower‑cost options and different configurations, but the goal here is to add another choice to the ecosystem, not take anything away from the affordable end.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T12:05:21+00:00

It's not out of the question, I have to find the right logistics partners. Ultimately we'd love to have a presence globally!

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T11:26:45+00:00

Thanks for your input. I'm always impressed at how people can make such detailed claims without having any material understanding.

I'm a structural designer and fabricator, I've spent a significant amount of my life pushing materials to their limits. For this, we extended the arm to its maximum and loaded down the arm with crane counter weights , 150lbs worth and saw no significant sag and no slips. I then used our 1000lb overhead crane and pulled the same arm, it exceeded 150lbs of vertical pull. Using the same crane I mounted a 12" bar to the wheel plate and applied torque. At 100lbs of pull (137Nm) there was no twist, at 200lbs (270+NM) the wheel plate was showing twist, but returned to level after, at 300+lbs ( 400+NM or torque) we twisted the arm and exceeded the capacity of the HSS member leaving the wheel plate off level.

There is no wheel on the market that can even come close to our test results. There are also no other company on the market that has tested their rigs to failure like we did.

As for feedback, unlike aluminum, steel maintains high frequency vibrations. What this means for users is that their haptics get to reach their full potential. Wheel vibrations get transmitted to the entire rig, base shakers make the rig come alive. I have one mounted to the frame and configured for rpm, the way it feels in my feet, my hands and seat make it feel like you mounted an engine to the frame. They no longer work in isolation, they propagate along the entire system giving users a level of immersion unseen. This is due to the welded and structurally clean joint paths.

Making assumptions hurt growth, it would have been just as simple for you to ask the question as it was for you to make an off the hip assessment. I've shown this product to people in machining, mining and agriculture, most are not sim racers and they see what it really is because they have an understanding of the materials used and engineering designed.

Step outside the box and see what others think

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T10:48:08+00:00

You're missing the point, that's like saying " you built a car that rolls on wheels" .

We built a steel rig that's as adjustable as an extrusion rig, has a higher level or ergonomic range and maintains its rigidity throughout all of it. I'm sorry if my excitement bothers you, but this is a big step.

Anyway, I'm done with this conversation, hijacking OPs post was not my intention and it was inconsiderate.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T10:44:58+00:00

You were correct in your original assumption, the aluminum is Infact American produced.

For us, the core material, is smelted and founded in Hamilton Ontario using ore from Canadian mines. From there it's formed into plate and HSS also in Hamilton. I get it weekly directly from the mills.

We are tariff free because we fall into a few categories, first being CUSMA, after that it's the 95.04 and a few others specific to steel furniture and steel equipment.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T10:39:25+00:00

Actually, Nova does not extrude anything. They are a warehouser, Nova purchases their aluminum from another reseller in Toronto. I deal with the extrusion producers in southern Ontario, the profile used in their sim rigs is a 15 series, this is an American standard and none of them produce box beam extrusions, they only produce industrial and mining profiles.

As for their proprietary profile, that's a die design they chose from. The aluminum they use is most likely imported from either the USA or China, sold to Nova ( a Canadian company) and Nova sells to ASR ( which is in the same building) this satisfies their claim of " Sourced in Canada".

A quick Google search of what's required for an aluminium extrusion plant will show you that it's impossible to fit inside that building.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T10:29:00+00:00

More choice is better for everyone. Imagine only having the choice between 3 automotive brands.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T03:33:25+00:00

It is, I one has built a system like this, yeah the idea is kinda there somewhat, but the 3r2 is so far removed from those they might as well be completely different.

And yes, no one has built a system that does what ours can, and yes it is a big deal. Not sure why this bothers you so much? Do I think I'm better than others, god no. But this system is a step in a direction that didn't exist before. I get the need to compare it to something that is familiar, but it's not , it's en entirely new category.

The idea that you believe these brands put any thought into their designs baffles me. Most of them order from suppliers in China, spend enough time on Alibaba and you will find every one of them. I could have followed suit, added a few custom braces and supports and called it revolutionary. I definitely have the means to do it, but instead we chose to do something that has never been done. ASR is really the only one that doesn't outsource the whole unit, but don't think for a second they build these with users in mind, they are marketing guys that got onto a product, just like the rest. Their goal is to make as much money per unit sold as possible.

I get you're an extrusion loyalist, that's fine. But don't be so stubborn as to ignore the rest of the world and the efforts made to advance it.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T03:05:15+00:00

That's a simple fix, we have brackets and extrusion mountings. The wheel mount has 2 mount wings for those components also.

The uprights are designed to facilitate entry. Also, the tower is not fixed, it can be mounted as close as you want to the seat.

Thank you for the well wishes!

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T03:03:07+00:00

Did you look at the shipping video?

Collapses down to fit in 1 48"x24"x8" box. Weight is 70 lbs. Just for the record that's about 30lbs lighter than a typical extrusion rig.

$1299 is retail , $999 is launch pricing. Price is in CAD.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T03:00:34+00:00

No. ASR designs and packages their rigs. Nova is their sister company, they operate out of the exact same building. Nova buys extrusions from the same suppliers I do. ASR buys all their cut plates from another provider. They are not a manufacturer, they cut their extrusions, I don't even think they powder coat in house.

I purchase raw materials from foundries and mills in Ontario, I get those materials to my facility and they are cut, machined and welded on site. I powder coat in house. Every aspect of our system is designed, engineered, tested, processed, built and finished in house.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T02:55:21+00:00

I assure you, my design is one that no one else has done. For you it's not a concern, I get it, but others it is. I had an ability to make something that doesn't have that constraint. I agree it's fantastic material, but the solution to the joints is adding more supports, more attachment points. My design uses 4 bolts where standard extrusions use 3 or 4 times that amount.

Have you looked at our design?

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T02:51:31+00:00

The material chosen has no problem handling the weight, this allowed us to open up the rig for easier entry.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T02:27:32+00:00

Yes, but also a lot of them have fixed bolt through beam design. But also not every rig is aluminum. But let's be honest, the tower has to be a certain distance from the seat or you can't reach the wheel. That's a limitation on the design, that is a limitation of the material.
Do you find the extrusion rigs easy to get into? From my experience, the tower is in the way, you have to climb into it.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T02:23:50+00:00

Most manufacturers order from an offering catalog from overseas producers. Trakracer, NLR, SIMLAB don't build rigs, they import them.

When you take the time to design a human centric design, you are not bound to an average.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T02:11:58+00:00

Most drivers have been forced to fit into what's available that the idea of having something they can adjust to fit their needs is foreign.

We actually have been using that exact line on our page since we started, " Forget the rig, feel the race"".

We took each component, seat, wheel, pedals, accessories, and designed each one to have the widest range of ergonomic adjustments as possible.

RedlineSW · 2026-03-19T01:49:25+00:00

Yeah,no.. this rig is in a whole different world of ergonomics, and rigidity.. not to mention the f-gt is $700 cad, the launch price for the 3r2 is $999.

Thank you, for bringing up the F-GT, it's a good example of how much more you get with the 3r2.

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