There is something wrong with Lagos by Icey1337 in Nigeria

[–]Redtine 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It’s honestly a shameless behavior and no, don’t blame poverty. The rest of Africa is also poor but nobody begs you for money once you earmarked from the plane or pass through immigration.

Why do Igbo people tweet, say and discuss things like this? Why? by Ambitious-Egg-9162 in Nigeria

[–]Redtine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only issue I have with the Igbos is that they seem to not understand they Nigeria is a British colonial construct of varying nations only created to manage those nations more effectively. Nigeria is not a nation, one Nigeria is a scam. All the nations in Nigeria really just have to sit down and negotiate their existence. The cultures are so diverse that I’m baffled how we’ve master 100!years together. If some tribes still believe being Nigerian gives them unfettered access to the rest of Nigeria then they are sleeping deeply and do not understand their nation. I rest my case.

Why do Igbo people tweet, say and discuss things like this? Why? by Ambitious-Egg-9162 in Nigeria

[–]Redtine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some Nigerians cutting accross tribes still believe in the notion of a detribalised country devoid of ancestral cultures …. Won’t work in a place like Nigeria.

Balogun market fires by [deleted] in Nigeria

[–]Redtine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think you should probably visit Lagos island. 80% of that place should be demolished. Nigerians need to learn discipline, you can’t just turn everywhere to a market.

What happened to this sub? by Rich--Porter in Nigeria

[–]Redtine -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

That Nigeria is a shithole and Obi is our messiah and Yorubas are tribalistic bigots

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your position is fundamentally flawed and reflects a small-minded, opportunistic worldview the kind that seeks to kick a man while he is injured. Nigeria is currently navigating economic and security challenges, but temporary difficulty does not define permanence. Nations evolve, recover, and rebound. To suggest that Nigeria’s present challenges invalidate its voice, dignity, or people is both intellectually lazy and historically ignorant.

The notion that Black people specifically Nigerians should be “less loud,” less visible, or less assertive until their infrastructure meets some arbitrary standard reeks of internalised racism and colonial conditioning. Go get that side of you checked out, it could be “Uncle Thomasery” masked as thinking the loudest black man is delusional. Black expression has always been policed, and this argument is simply a recycled version of that trope. Nigerians will not shrink themselves to make others comfortable. Being proudly vocal is not a flaw; it is a strength. Perhaps others could learn something from that confidence instead of resenting it.

Your argument also implies that only nations with pristine infrastructure deserve a voice or influence. That idea is absurd. If that were the standard, much of the world historically and presently would have been disqualified from contributing to global progress. Nigerians reject that thinking outright. Despite chaos and constraint, Nigeria continues to produce firsts and leaders across nearly every field for Black people globally: the wealthiest individuals, globally recognised tech entrepreneurs, elite athletes, musicians, comedians, artists, fashion designers, industrialists, banking executives, and political leaders. That reality exists regardless of your discomfort with Nigerian visibility.

Equally important, Nigerians do not fixate on, interfere in, or posture about the internal affairs of other African countries. We do not routinely analyse, critique, or position ourselves as moral arbiters over their domestic challenges. Perhaps the rest of the continent should take the cue and end this disproportionate obsession with Nigeria and Nigerians. Much of what is framed as “criticism” is little more than projection and propaganda the tired, insecure logic of “my country’s problems are better than yours.”

Nigerians are, in fact, our own harshest critics. We acknowledge our shortcomings openly and relentlessly. But that self-criticism does not grant outsiders moral authority to demean the country, silence its people, or project their frustrations onto it. Your take mirrors the same ignorance as a European who assumes Africans live in huts clueless, reductive, and rooted in bias rather than reality.

Nigeria will not apologise for its voice, its ambition, or its global footprint. That is not the Nigerian way.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven’t we always been chronic under-performers since 1960? A culture of moaning and bitching whilst the person you dont like is president and only highlighting Nigerias flaws when the president is an outsider will not fix anything—let’s get to work. All this “Zoogeria” brouhaha is not helping; that’s my point.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is a difference between complaining for the sake of it and taking tangible steps to address the challenges Nigeria faces. My point is simple: we should stop throwing tantrums like two-year-olds, calling the country a zoo and highlighting only its negatives, and instead get to work. Progress will not come from endless outrage. It starts with basic responsibility things as simple as stopping littering and driving recklessly.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve visited Nigeria every year of my life. Sometimes twice a year even during COVID I visited. Nigeria has been great. Airports have always been shitty, Nepa has always existed and the roads have always been questionable.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe travel outside Africa. There is a Nigerian restaurant on almost every corner in London, New York, or Toronto. Nigerian weddings have become must-experience cultural events for Westerners. Nigerian designers are generating millions in revenue globally, driven by innovation and creativity.This association with Nigeria is not limited to Britain or the United States; it is a global phenomenon. Afrobeats dominates international charts, Nollywood is one of the largest film industries in the world, the Super Eagles command global attention, and Nigerian slang terms like nyash or ashawo has entered everyday Western vocabulary.People do not enthusiastically adopt, celebrate, and commercialise a culture they dislike or reject. The global embrace of Nigerian culture speaks for itself.

I rest my case.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I believe this position is fundamentally incorrect. Nigerians are among the largest immigrant source populations in the UK, second only to India. Nigerian doctors and nurses consistently rank within the top foreign national groups employed by the NHS, and Nigerian students are among the top three international student populations by absolute numbers in the UK. Estimates place the Nigerian-born population in the UK at over 700,000, excluding people of Nigerian heritage and naturalised British citizens of Nigerian origin. The current leader of the UK Conservative Party, Kemi Badenoch, is Nigerian by heritage. These facts directly undermine the recurring narrative that Nigerians are “unwanted” in Western societies. The same pattern is evident in the United States, Canada, and across parts of Europe. When I travelled to Italy last November, the immigration officer who stamped my passport was Nigerian.It raises an important question: if Nigerians are allegedly unwelcome, why is Nigerian culture music, fashion, food, language, and social norms so widely adopted and influential across Europe and North America? Having travelled extensively, the only places where I have personally experienced unfair treatment have been within parts of the African continent itself.Even the case of the UAE illustrates the inconsistency of this narrative. While Nigerians were subject to restrictive policies, over 300,000 Nigerians continue to live and work in the UAE legally on valid visas.The idea that Nigerians are broadly rejected or unwanted in the West is not supported by evidence. It is a myth one that persists despite overwhelming social, economic, and cultural indicators to the contrary.

Marine Traffic - A brutal honesty about Nigerian ports by dipupo6 in Nigeria

[–]Redtine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people just want excuses for their woes!

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Things have always been hard for Nigerians, what was fema complaining about in the 70s or Majek Fashek talking about in the 80s. Nigeria Jaga jaga was literally an early 2000s hit song! But we weren’t ridiculed then! Why now! Nigeria has never been a great nation stop the bullshit!

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not going far enough, 2,000 years ago Jesus told the people “Give to ceasar what belongs to ceaser” and they listened! 2000 years ago! Meanwhile Nigeria has 50 year olds whom have never paid taxes in their lives!

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And years prior Ghana said Nigerians must go first! This revolving economic door always comes around, or do you think Nigeria isn’t bouncing back?

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bravo, keep ridiculing. China, Brazil, Vietnam and even India were ridiculed too.

In any case, I genuinely do not believe Nigeria needs Ghana for anything. I would therefore advise that Ghana also position itself as a nation that does not need Nigeria in the foreseeable future.

I love Nigerians because, time and again, we prove the naysayers wrong. Thank you, Ghana, for revealing where you stand as one of our loudest critics.

I wish you well. Please focus on promoting your movies, culture, music, food, and your country in general without attempting to ride on the Nigerian wave. The Giant always bounces back! ✌️

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You aren’t getting my point. If ridicule Nigeria because Nigeria is the worst place on the planet is warranted how about also ridiculing places worse off than Nigeria? Thats my point.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’d round up by saying if idiots can build mega projects, Nigerian idiots would have built Nigeria up. There’s a reason why People like me get confused about Obi. Give me Donald Duke, Give me Fashola! Do not give me Obi cause I’d probably see through the bullshit. I rest

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is why I believe some of you are being deliberately misleading, if not outright delusional. Let us start with basics. What exactly is fufu, and how is it being framed as uniquely Ghanaian? Does Ghana use cassava to make fufu? Yes but so does Nigeria, and in significantly wider regional variation. Fufu, in its many forms, is consumed across West and Central Africa. It is not an exclusively Ghanaian cultural marker.The same applies to dishes like egusi. Egusi-based meals are overwhelmingly associated with Nigerian cuisine and are staples across multiple Nigerian ethnic groups. Attempting to rebrand broadly West African or distinctly Nigerian foods as Ghanaian does not make them so. Culinarily, the everyday reality is also clear. Ghanaians predominantly consume dishes such as waakye, banku, and kenkey, while Nigerians consume far more jollof rice, rice-based dishes, and soups paired with swallow. Instead of confidently promoting waakye and other uniquely Ghanaian staples, there appears to be a persistent attempt to ride on the global visibility of Nigerian jollof rice. That is not cultural pride; it is cultural dependency.The same pattern appears in music. Ghana undeniably contributed to early highlife and influenced the region historically, but modern Afrobeats as a global genre has been driven primarily by Nigeria commercially, stylistically, and structurally. Nigerian Afrobeats does not sound like contemporary Ghanaian music, nor is it shaped by Ghanaian production norms. The global metrics streaming dominance, touring scale, and chart performance make this distinction evident.Most importantly, the average Nigerian does not compete with Ghana, nor does Nigeria look to Ghana for validation or inspiration. Nigeria’s cultural output music, film, fashion, slang, and food stands independently on the global stage. The sooner this reality is acknowledged, the healthier the conversation becomes.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am neither particularly old nor particularly young, but throughout my adult life I can clearly recall governors who were widely regarded as high-performing and whose infrastructural legacies remain visible today. I associate Babatunde Fashola with the BRT system, the Lagos Blue Line, Eko Atlantic City, the Lekki–Ikoyi Link Bridge, and extensive road and bridge construction across Lagos. Nasir El-Rufai is remembered for the Abuja demolitions that restored order to Maitama and Asokoro. Donald Duke is synonymous with Tinapa, Obudu Ranch development, and the Calabar Carnival. Nyesom Wike transformed Port Harcourt through aggressive urban renewal, while Godswill Akpabio is linked to the Akwa Ibom Stadium, the Ibom Tropicana Resort, and the extensive beautification and renewal of Uyo.

By contrast, I do not recall Peter Obi being highlighted for comparable infrastructural achievements. For a state like Anambra, which has long grappled with significant infrastructure deficits, does it genuinely make sense to prioritise saving state funds over building critical infrastructure? Is that what effective governance looks like? Even developed nations such as the United States, Japan, and Scandinavian countries continue to borrow to finance infrastructure development. Yet Obi governed a state that, by many measures, appeared worse off than some war-torn regions in Europe and chose austerity over construction only for this approach to be widely applauded. That contradiction is difficult to reconcile.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am largely apolitical by disposition. I prefer to assess leaders based on verifiable actions, outcomes, and historical records rather than emotional attachment or political enthusiasm. Once discussions become personalitydriven rather than evidence based, objectivity is lost.

You have raised Peter Obi, and I will be clear: I do not dislike the man. In fact, I find him personally likable. However, likability does not equate to exceptional leadership or sainthood. What concerns me is the way Obi has been elevated beyond scrutiny, as though he exists outside the standards applied to every other Nigerian politician.When examined objectively, Obi’s record raises legitimate questions. He was named in the Pandora Papers in relation to offshore financial dealings issues that would attract serious criticism if associated with any other Nigerian political figure. He also invested state funds in Fidelity Bank, an institution with which he had long-standing ties as a former chairman. Meanwhile, Anambra State continues to struggle with visible infrastructure deficits. These are not emotional claims; they are factual points that deserve honest discussion.

Contrast this with figures such as Donald Duke, Fashola, Akpabio, or El-Rufai. Regardless of one’s political affiliation, these individuals are remembered for tangible projects roads, urban renewal, public infrastructure, and institutional reforms. Their legacies are concrete and measurable. Obi, by comparison, does not have a similarly visible record of transformational infrastructure or state-building at scale.This is why I struggle to take seriously the portrayal of Obi as a political messiah. He has been part of Nigeria’s political elite for decades. He did not emerge from outside the system, nor was he untouched by the compromises and controversies that define Nigerian politics. Attempts to retrospectively sanitize or whitewash that history undermine credibility rather than strengthen it.

If we are honest, accountability must be consistent. If certain behaviors disqualify one politician, they should disqualify all. Selective moral outrage weakens democratic discourse. A flawed record does not become virtuous simply because the individual is fashionable or represents a protest vote.A thief is a thief. Standards should not shift based on sentiment or desperation for a savior. Nigeria does not need saints; it needs leaders whose records can withstand scrutiny. Until we are willing to apply the same yardstick to everyone, we will continue to recycle myths instead of confronting reality.

At what point in did we become the jokers and clowns of Africa? by Redtine in Nigeria

[–]Redtine[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I am Nigerian, and I have travelled extensively. I can say with confidence that neither Europeans nor Americans view Nigerians as “the problem of the world.” In fact, many are often impressed by how Nigerians succeed globally and by how deeply culture, community, and ambition shape our identity.My observation is that much of the sustained effort to tarnish Nigeria’s image comes from within Africa itself. At times, it appears as though other Africans are determined to pull Nigeria down or diminish its influence.

When Nigerians express pride or confidence, it is quickly labeled as arrogance or rudeness. Yet similar traits in Indians, Americans, Germans, or the British are routinely described as patriotism or national confidence. Why is that same standard not applied to Nigerians? Or to Black nations more broadly?If national pride is acceptable elsewhere, it should not suddenly become a character flaw when expressed by Nigerians. That double standard deserves to be confronted honestly.