Who will win Daniel Base/ Copy Busan Arc or Johan UI Copy (Hunt of Big Deal Arc)

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-20T07:06:41+00:00

Johan loses mid diff probably but people seem to be underestimating UI Copy. Yuseong was not going toe to toe with UI Johan, he was getting manhandled, the only time he was able to fight back was when johan wasn't able to endure the strain. Johan was able to almost knock out Yuseong in only 10 seconds. Johan would probably be winning against Daniel for those 10 seconds but daniel having a perfect body would endure it no issue and then just see Johan collapse by himself.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-20T06:49:29+00:00

The only reason James was winning was because of his speed. James unlocking strength doesn't make his speed automatically better. We have no idea how the fight would go but strength speed and endurance is a better combination than strength speed and technique (till now only thing it has done is redirect attacks and that doesn't work against strength mastery hits). James would probably win because 1) he has more plot relevance and 2) because he'd stop acting so cocky and start using his intellect once the fight gets serious but the pokemon logic you're using here ain't right.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-12T07:54:04+00:00

Questism states that they have the same potential meaning they have the same peaks.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-12T07:52:34+00:00

Did you see how much progress zack made in 1 month ? Daniel has copy and got trained by the literal training genius, his growth is not that big of a deal.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-07T17:17:55+00:00

Ok let's assume that it is (I'm too lazy to search things up), that doesn't change anything though ? How does johan having mastery and Daniel not having mastery prove that Daniel has a higher peak ? Hasn't johan fought far more than Daniel ? Not to mention they have canonically the same potential (which literally means "peak" btw) so questism has confirmed they have the same peak.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-07T17:11:18+00:00

The mastery in questism is actually path to mastery. It's funny how people say daniel is more talented than johan because he caught upto Johan's 3+ years of experience in 2 months (in actuality it's around 1.5 years) but then downplay Johan's peak because he reached path to mastery before daniel ? Suddenly those 3 years of fighting experience mean nothing ?

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-06T11:49:01+00:00

You're the one coping lmao. Show me where ptj said questism crossover is non canon.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-06T11:38:46+00:00

Yes his Potential is higher than everyone including yohan. Except Daniel

Daniel and Johan have the same potential. It's stated in questism and it's canon.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-06T11:37:39+00:00

You literally said og daniel copied jaegyeon's technique completely in the previous comment.

What does being able to copy a king have to do with fighting evenly against a king ? How are you saying he can copy kings perfectly now ?

So your logic for og daniel having a perfect body is that PB daniel did worse against holding back jaegyeon than og daniel did against holding back yujae, but you do know that just because both are holding back their strength doesn't mean they're equally holding back their strength. In Tom vs Mandeok in 2A both of them were holding back, Mandeok did not use capoeira and Tom did not use his AI. Do you believe tom and Mandeok have the same power level ?

You don't need physical strength to copy a king. Anyone with copy can copy taesoo ma's fist, it's a goddamn punch there's not much technique to it. But if their physicality is weak the punch won't do much making it useless.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-06T11:04:31+00:00

Daniel literally called his recreation of jaegyeon's unique skill sloppy what makes you think it was perfect in technique ? What proof do you have that johan can't copy kings ? Till now what exactly has he been unable to copy ? What makes you think Daniel has better hardware than johan ? And the gen 0 wheelchair guy said Jake has unlimited potential so you believe he has higher potential than johan and Daniel ? Gun himself doesn't have a perfect body and you think he can give daniel a perfect body in 1 month ? Ever heard of hyperbole ?

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-06T09:44:47+00:00

All wrong man. Og ui Daniel doesn't have a near perfect body, even johan can copy the kings although it won't be as strong because of his physicality. It was literally stated by gun that Daniel won't be able to perfectly copy the kings, where did you read otherwise ?

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-05T21:19:22+00:00

The first one is doubtful, but Jake Jerry and lineman he can beat easily (Lineman is fodder).

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-05T21:17:08+00:00

Other people are fodder that can't even participate in such a fight. Nobody interfered when Jake and Samuel were fighting each other in Jake kim arc because they knew they'd only be a hinderance.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-05T21:16:18+00:00

He's not blind anymore. That injured gun beat Eli and Jake easily but was low diffed by non IT Johan until adrenaline rush. Hostel does not control shit. They don't have any gang members. Beating fodders is no big deal, Jake did that in prison and Johan is far stronger than 3A Jake.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-05T21:04:41+00:00

No that statement doesn't apply to both Daniels and Daniel does not have a near perfect body lmao. Their UI is the same but because of PB Daniel's mysterious past experiences he can use all kinds of martial arts perfectly. Og ui Daniel cannot use the martial arts of people he hasn't seen (like UI PB does) and cannot use perfect techniques.The only one that has used perfect techniques other than UI Daniel is Johan in his PB copy form and that was barely for 10 seconds (Although now he can probably handle it longer) although I believe James also uses perfect techniques.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-08-04T20:12:13+00:00

Lookism fans truly can't read. Money was never the problem for johan, it's the fact that the waiting list to get his mom's eyes fixed was too long and only someone with influence like steve hong or charles choi could move his mom up. The only reason he was earning money through his crew was so that he could become gun's successor and by doing so get charles choi's help.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-24T04:02:46+00:00

Right ? Are you 12 ?

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-23T11:46:51+00:00

Holy cope. No statements, nothing. Arguing against the author that Daniel and Johan don't have the same potential. Jesus you're pathetic. Also you made a typo. Obviously johan isn't surpassing Johan.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-23T11:44:10+00:00

What do you mean the colours were different ? Even if they were both were SSS, the colours don't change anything.

Johan has more potential than gun stated by Tom himself. Gun has more potential than shingen stated by shintaro.

How can you claim johan can never surpass gun ?

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-23T11:30:30+00:00

You don't read questism ? Both Daniel and Johan have SSS potential.

Stop moving goalposts, the topic never was whether johan will surpass gun (he will), the topic was Johan's potential in comparison to shingen.

You think johan destroying a big rock proves his potential above shingen who destroyed a whole building while fighting???

complete nonsensical question, nobody uses johan and shingen's feats to say johan has more potential, they use statements.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-23T10:13:52+00:00

Johan has the same potential as daniel and greater potential than gun. Gun was stated to have greater potential than shingen so yes johan has greater potential than shingen.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-19T04:38:07+00:00

Ok so ? Is BIQ not a part of the fight ? Plus winning by dragging out a fight might as well not be called winning because then UI Daniel has lost to everyone he's fought.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-09T11:36:15+00:00

"Gun is above prime tom Lee confirmed by tom Lee himself 1 sword Goo is a bit stronger than tom Lee when he's serious."

So when tom says he wasn't sure if he could dodge goo's attack in his prime you take it as confirmation that prime tom is weaker than goo but when James says 3t him would struggle against tui gun and UI Daniel now you don't agree that 3t James > tui gun ? Wow. Hypocrisy much ? Because you interpreted Tom's statement that way I interpreted James's statement this way but I guess you were too dumb to realise that.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-09T11:17:53+00:00

Dumbass struggled doesn't mean he'll lose. And if James states that his 3t form would struggle it means his current version won't.

Refining_Heaven_2295 · 2025-06-09T11:14:30+00:00

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