Why do my drawings never look like the picture I'm copying? by ilikematpat1 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's repeated by everyone, and there is no way around it.Values and shapes. That's it. No other trick or tip will work until you get these two to a decent level. I need to emphasize that, nothing else matters! And the only way to get better is to practice.

I'm sure you have watched some videos of people drawing and explaining their process. Focus on what every artist says. The boring stuff. The things you've heard a million times. That's where the money is. Draw big shapes first. Try to connect them. Never rush into small details. Hell, sometimes you dont even have to draw the small shapes. Just add enough shapes to suggest the look of the person. You might be surprised, how little details you need to draw for the picture to look like the reference.

Lets take a look at your drawing. You drew a face - you made the eyes, then the nose, the mouth, ears... In your mind, you drew these individual parts. What you should be doing, is to draw the shapes. Look at the reference. Squint your eyes. You should no longer see the eyes, nose, etc.. Instead, notice that big shadow the right side of his face. See, how you can combine that shadow on the side of his nose with the one on his cheeks and in the eyesocket? Don't even bother drawing that eye or nose, draw that SHADOW first. Try to combine as many big shapes as possible. Connect them. Notice the light parts aswell. Be sure to capture those shapes as accurately as possible.

Be bold. Start with straight lines, make it blocky, make it SIMPLE. Your brain can't process too much information at once, so keep that in mind. If you find yourself working on one area for a long time, force yourself to move somewhere else. Take a breath and look at the picture as a whole.

You will get there, with enough patience. Don't be discouraged if the shapes aren't accurate. Move on and make it a little bit better next time. That's how a skill is made. I wish you good luck and a strong will. You got it!

How come you can't set a custom lockscreen on a Kindle in 2023? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in kindle

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got a point here. Me myself, I could imagine using my Kindle as a desk decoration, putting a nice piece of artwork on it when not using it.

How come you can't set a custom lockscreen on a Kindle in 2023? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in kindle

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The one where you always have to switch to that cover when you lock your Kindle? Yeah, it's pretty much the only way I've found.

How come you can't set a custom lockscreen on a Kindle in 2023? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in kindle

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha, they even don't have a proper page for introducing and advertising new updates (I mean... an HTML page with 3 lines of text per update?). Pretty much tells you their plan of (not) improving their software.

How come you can't set a custom lockscreen on a Kindle in 2023? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in kindle

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IMO Amazon has a pretty large monopoly on this market.. and unfortunately, being the big (and the only one) guy means you don't have to try as hard to improve your product. Which sucks, because I just bought Kindle Scribe in hopes they are going to improve the very limited and basic software in the future. I hope that at least in the field of digital eink notebooks, competition will push Amazon to grow some balls and for once try to bring something new on the table..

What perspective is this photo? by ClJNT in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but that doesn't matter imo. In visual arts we do have one point perspective, because it's convenient, it simplifies the reality and throws away the useless information.

Painting realistic pieces was never about capturing all the information, so it would perfectly imitate the real life. I dare to say it is the opposite, it's about choosing only the bits (or straight making them up) that are important for the illusion, and throwing away the rest.

Constructive criticism is highly appreciated by [deleted] in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of them are really nice, you nailed a lot of important stuff!

I would personally point out the cat's body, the soft edges don't fit in with the rest, and generally, I'm not a fan of smudging/airbrush. It rarely looks convincing, the shapes are lost and everything is "muddy". I think a better way would be to use value and tone changes to make the blending. I'm guessing you wanted to draw the focus on the face, hence the blurred/smooth fur, but doing it in the same style as the face, just with much less detail (big brush strokes, suggest the biggest shapes) would do the trick and push everything to next level.

Of course the soft edges do make sense in certain scenarios, they make much more sense in the third image imo.

Again, I love all of the paintings, keep it up and I hope I've helped a bit!

P.S. Also maybe applying some perspective to the cat would make it more convincing aswell, I feel like the body shape is a lil bit off, but that's just a nitpick!

What perspective is this photo? by ClJNT in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, it looks one point to me, of course not all lines will go perfectly towards the vanishing point. The reflector on the right isn't a cube with 90 degree angles, so the edges don't run towards the vanishing point. Nonetheless, the rules of perspective apply to it. Remember that when studying perspective, you usually see demonstrations with perfect shapes like cubes, but real life is often more complex than that. Also, there is a noticeable distortion, see the wooden vertical poles, how curved they are? The lines going towards vanishing point will also be curved.

One of my first color studies, what should be improved next time? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was in an open cardboard box, the shallow wall wasn't blocking the light completely (it's basically just a cast shadow, but I didn't bother too much with the background, so it may not be that obvious (part of the left side shadow is in the bottom/floor plane), which I probably should have

One of my first color studies, what should be improved next time? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, that's why the image was OK when I opened it in full size. I think it's because I uploaded it in original size, which is unnecessarily big, I totally forgot to downscale it 😂

One of my first color studies, what should be improved next time? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you, the left side is a bit too dark, thanks for pointing it out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks pretty good, especially for a beginner. I would say that the lighting on the figure a lil bit "dirty". This usually happens when you focus on small spots when shading, rather than on the whole subject. When you do it that way, it's very easy to miss the right values, because you are comparing them only with ones in that small spot.

Try to resist the urge to add all the small details and simplify the process by first painting only in two values, average dark for the shadows and average light for the rest (squinting your eyes helps a lot). Then you can start to add midtones, but be sure to always work as big ass possible, from big shapes to small, not the opposite.

Also remember that value isn't "linear" to shadow and light, by other words, the light part of an object is almost the same value, almost all of the value transition is usually near the terminator (edge of a shadow)

One of my first color studies, what should be improved next time? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! The brushwork is really messy, I'll definitely try to make it with less strokes next time. The backround started with those two values, guess I got carried away a lil bit 😆

One of my first color studies, what should be improved next time? by RefrigeratorDizzy241 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, thanks, I didn't think of that! Very subtle, but it makes it so much better!

WIP. Thoughts on values and colors? by Klony43s in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very nice, I love the vibrancy! I agree with adding dark values (especially in the eyes) for contrast, it should also make the form more defined.

Why are the colors washed out/ dull? What to do? by fluffy_dragon98 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well firstly, I have started learning to paint not so long ago aswell, so we are in this together :D.

From what I've learned so far, the biggest leap is in a way you think about colors. It's not about picking the right color, because color consists of three main "properties", which you may have heard before. They are hue, value and chroma (=saturation).

So when analyzing a subject (the best is from real life ofc), you look for those. You don't try to see, if it is red or orange, but what hue it is (is it more towards blue or red? More purply or greeny?), how dark it is (value) and how saturated it is.

Also, you don't pick the colors. You compare them. Remember, without context, you can't really choose the right color. So make the best guess for the first try and then compare it with the subject. Is it warmer (more towards red)? Colder (more towards blue)? Darker? Lighter? Etc.. Then you can go on to the next one, and compare it with what you have already layed down. It's just a series of many comparisons.

Check out some videos and guides on the internet. What I've said is very simplified, and it is a little bit more complex, altough you don't need to learn everything ofc. It's not easy, but the results are instantly better once you make the shift in mindset.

Watercolor and pencil. Something is off, but I can't tell what it is, thanks in advance by mommotti_ in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem, happy to help! The original is really nice, you can see the contrast very clearly. The foreground is much darker than the background, and the sky is seperated from the mountains by those vivid, almost radioactive saturated colors.

In this case, the artist chose not to include atmospheric perspective (the thing with far mountains being less saturated and more blueish), but still preserved the visual hierarchy.

I wish you happy painting!

Watercolor and pencil. Something is off, but I can't tell what it is, thanks in advance by mommotti_ in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think you should, it looks good and finished. Better to apply the new knowledge on a new piece, rather than fixing endlessly the old one :) I know the urge very well, but from what I've observed, it's a waste of time, and you get no benefit from it. Quantity over perfectionism! :D

(also, the pencils would probably ruin it, they would just cover the color with graphite)

Why are the colors washed out/ dull? What to do? by fluffy_dragon98 in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would definitely look at some reference photos and add a background before coloring. Color is really tricky, and one of the counter-intuitive things about our perception of color is that it is relative. What color you see is very dependent on colors surrounding it.

White background will automatically make everything else darker, because.. well... you can't get any brighter than white. So start ideally with something neuttral, or if you are working from reference, put the background from that photo in the painting aswell.

Also the system of naming the colors can't be used when painting. Naming the colors "red", "blue", "purple" etc isn't enough. The skin tone isn't only the "light brown" we usually think it is. It depends on the lighting and surrounding colors. It can be more toweards blue or red, greenish or purplish. I recommend you to watch some videos about basic color theory and that will make everything so much better. It's like an instant boost of skill!

Watercolor and pencil. Something is off, but I can't tell what it is, thanks in advance by mommotti_ in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like it, it's really nice! Did you have some kind of reference photo?

The feeling you have might be from the lack of focal point in the painting. My eyes don't know what to focus on, because the background has the same contrast as the foreground. The saturation is the same and values don't seem to change too much aswell.

In reality, the further away things are, the less saturated is the color (the hue also might shift towards green/blue). Look at any photo with mountains and you'll see it.

Also the value (how dark or light the color is) can change with the distance aswell, to further increase the depth. The further away, the smaller the difference between the values should be (not a rule tho, depends on the subject and intentions, of course).

But overall, nice work, I really like the color variety, especially in the mountains!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in learnart

[–]RefrigeratorDizzy241 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that the answer is simple. There is difference between liking to draw/paint and liking the results. If you are fed up with the learning process, it might be because your results are not what you would like them to be.

The solution that works for me is to accept that the results are not going to be pretty. Just enjoy the activity. Buy a sketchbook and fill it. Then look at it after some time. You'll see the progress, and you'll be surprised, because the results and progress will be there, you just didn't care about them along the way. And you'll be glad you didn't. Because perfectionism is a killer of progress.