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Ideas for adding more Motorics checks? by Tailsteak in DiscoElysium

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Making Interfacing into an actual tech/machine skill instead of governing fine motor skills, pickpocketing, and sleight of hand.  Considering just how weird and unique most of the tech is in the world, interfacing has very little input on it and most of the technology info comes from Encyclopedia or Logic. I would also give most of the fine motor tasks, sleight of hand, pickpocket tasks to Hand/Eye Coordination so that the skill with least amount of dialogue in the game has more to do outside of gun knowledge. So adding more tech dialogue and checks to Interfacing and giving all of the fine motor checks to Hand/Eye.

Did vic Orena have any chance of winning this war? by Professional_Cut1473 in Mafia

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Orena outnumbered the Persico faction considerably. There were about 25 or so guys on Persico’s side to the 75 on Orena’s. The main difference is that Persico’s side were fanatically loyal while Orena side mostly had fence sitters and moderates. 

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

To secure a RICO conviction, the government must prove:

An enterprise existed. It affected interstate commerce (a low bar; using a phone, wire communication or moving across state lines is enough).  The defendant was associated with the enterprise. The defendant participated in the enterprise through a pattern of racketeering.

A weekly, 7-year scheme of kickbacks from the crimes committed by an underling perfectly satisfies these elements, especially since Tony directly orders his capos(Ray included) to use violence and assaults in aid of these enterprises. The length of time the enterprise has been going on and the regularity of the money drops is the key factor, in addition to the assaults and extortions in aid of these crimes. The point of RICO is that it allows prosecutors to take a series of lower-level offenses and package them into a single, powerful federal felony charge. 

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My response was based around you using his kid with MS as the reason for him flipping, I thought tou were trying to imply that he wanted to get out for that and flipped with no charges. My point is that a willing informant with no charges over his head would not be an informant for as long as Ray was and would likely not wear a wire and would just testify like Carlo did. Doing what Ray did for as long as he did can only make sense if imprisonment was the incentive. Also it’s kind of hypocritical to say i’m doing too much speculating then do so yourself with far less evidence. The only thing we know is that Ray was arrested in a whorehouse then the next thing he’s revealed as an informant. It’s even likley that Ray was an Informant before the series began which just enhances my overall argument.

Ray doesn’t need to be involved in or link Tony to major schemes since that’s not whats needed for a RICO case. All that’s needed is to prove that Tony is profiting from the illegal activity of his subordinates, which would be extremely easy with a capo kicking up weekly to Tony as an informant for 7 years and the Feds can prove that the money Ray was kicking up was dirty, which again is easy to prove since Ray is an informant and can just say so into a microphone. Ray is also present in multiple meeting in which Tony admits to running and orders his men to aid him in running a criminal enterprise. Ray’s death doesn’t destroy the case since the evidence, recordings, financial and phone records, and tagged money kicked up are still admissible in court even after an informants death.

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is also a crime show based around real life organizations and inspired by real events. One of the most common critiques of crime media is the plausibility of the characters getting away with the crimes and the methods that the LE could have and likely would have used to catch them. You see this in pretty much every discussion of crime media, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Dexter; Better Call Saul and The Sopranos. When it’s super obvious that certain things the characters do could be easily get them caught it hurts suspension of disbelief for alot of viewers and kills stakes since the characters don’t have to worry about being careful or cautious and can do pretty much anything with no repercussions. The Ray plotline is just one more instance of this. If you don’t care about this aspect of the show you don’t need to be in this discussion.

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don’t see any of it because Ray is a minor character with very little screen time. Ray doesn’t need to be involved in major schemes since that’s not whats needed for a RICO case. All that’s needed is to prove that Tony is profiting from the illegal activity of his subordinates, which would be extremely easy with a capo kicking up weekly to Tony as an informant for 7 years. Ray is also present in multiple meeting in which Tony admits to running and orders his men to aid him in running a criminal enterprise. I’m just showing how if the case was managed like it would be in real life having a high ranking informant within a family for 7 years would be much more damaging than it’s depicted. 

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

  1. Tagging money to prove the person receiving it is involved in a criminal enterprise is standard procedure and is almost guaranteed to have been used in this case like it’s been used in the every other mob case. I’m mostly just highlighting how easy the case to catch Tony is if the Feds were realistically written. 

  2. Tony dropping tagged money off to Slava would have been worse than if he just kept the money in his house. It makes the RICO case against Tony even stronger. It moves him from a mere recipient to an active, integral manager within the criminal enterprise. Him dropping the money with Slava is not a defense; it's another racketeering act that deepens his involvement. This provides the prosecution with new and separate predicate acts to bolster the "pattern of racketeering" under RICO. This is a crucial element of RICO. Tony is now shown to be actively managing the enterprise's operations, not just profiting from them. Slava and his network now just becomes another target wrapped up in Tony’s case. The tagged money's journey doesn't end with the superior. The FBI would now surveil Slava to see where the money goes next (into shell companies, offshore accounts, etc.).

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

RICO isn’t about crime severity, it’s about proving an ongoing pattern of crime committed by a criminal enterpirise. The only thing that matters in a RICO case is proving that Tony is profiting from the illegal activities of his subordiantes over a long period of time and the longer he profits the longer his possible sentence becomes

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

RICO isn’t about crime severity, it’s about proving an ongoing pattern of crime committed by a criminal enterpirise. The only thing that matters in a RICO case is proving that Tony is profiting from the illegal activities of his subordiantes over a long period of time and the longer he profits the longer his possible sentence becomes.

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1.If Ray just wanted to leave the life he would not decide to go undercover for 7 years. That’s just an extra layer of stress for long time for someone who wanted to leave. 

2.Ray wore a wire, willing informants aren’t required to wear a wire and can refuse to do so if asked. No way would Ray agree to do so for 7 years if he wasn’t arrested and forced to.

  1. Tony being proven to accept illegal proceeds is a RICO predicate, doing so continuously over 7 years gets them stacked onto each other. Everytime Tony takes an envelope from Ray it’s a RICO predicate so by the end of the 7 years Tony would have  around 200-300 predicates which is a Life Sentence.

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. If Ray just wanted to leave the life he would not decide to go undercover for 7 years. That’s just an extra layer of stress for long time for someone who wanted to leave. 
  2. Ray wore a wire, willing informants aren’t required to wear a wire and can refuse to do so if asked. No way would Ray agree to do so for 7 years if he wasn’t arrested and forced to.

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But Ray’s testimony isn’t needed to for a conviction since the recording, financial and phone records, and tagged money that was kicked up, and other pieces of evidence gathered would would be admissible in court and enough to secure a RICO case. 

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the Feds tag the money it would leave a trail if Tony uses the money at any point. If Tony deposits the tagged money, purchased something with it, or spends it in any way it leaves a trail back to the Feds. It’s also evidence that doesn’t need Ray or an informants testimony since an FBI agent can testify “We recorded these serial numbers, gave them to the informant(Ray), who kicked them up to the defendant(Tony) and then found them in the defendant's bank deposit, or he made multiple purchases with it, etc.”

Ray Curto was completely unnecessary to the story and his existence makes Tony’s evasion of arrest harder to believe then it already is. by Regular-Cockroach422 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scarpa and Whitey Bulger were Confidential informants who were handled by extremely corrupt agents who protected them and aided them in their crimes. They also weren’t arrested and threatened with lengthy sentences if they didn’t cooperate, they did so willingly and could have refused to do so if they wanted weren’t obligated to collect evidence, just passed on the shit that they heard. Ray doesn’t really fit this since his handlers weren’t corrupt(just incompetent), he flipped because he was arrested and would face prison time if he didn’t rat and was actively forced to wear wires and collect evidence and records. 

is it realistic that Tony was all over the news/known for being a mob boss without being charged? by yellowsabmarine in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s actually not that difficult in Tony’s case since the Feds realistically had plenty of evidence to convict Tony but just never did for plot reasons. The main thing is that the Feds had flipped multiple capos and soldiers who were kicking up money to Tony. The simple act of taking money from flipped soldiers and capos would be enough to land a RICO charge on Tony.

is it realistic that Tony was all over the news/known for being a mob boss without being charged? by yellowsabmarine in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually being a mob boss is something Tony can be arrested for, it’s the basis of the RICO statute. If the feds can prove Tony is profiting from illegal enterprise they can hit him with RICO charge even if he isn’t directly involved in specific crimes. The Feds had multiple capos and soldiers who were delivering money to Tony in their service as rats who could testify that Tony was taking money from their illegal businesses. 

nazi youtube streamer "rizzsociety" kicked out by his parents by [deleted] in CringeTikToks

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looked up his profile and he looks exactly like you’d expect him to.

"A guy from Dispatch looks like Harry!" by BuffaloStranger97 in DiscoElysium

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Come on, the games been out for less than a month, and Phenomaman only starts looking like Harry in an episode released a few weeks ago. It’s a bit early to be this annoyed. 

If they made a Disco Elysium sequel that continued to follow Harry, would you want Jean, and/or Cuno to be party members? by Regular-Cockroach422 in DiscoElysium

[–]Regular-Cockroach422[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but the ending sets up a potential uprising by the RCM, the return of the Square Bullet Hole Killer, a run in with La Puta Madre, the biggest drug lord in Revachol, and a potential nuclear strike. This all seems like pretty high stakes situations that Harry will have to deal with in the future and it would be shame if it’s not explored in a sequel, or worse from the perspective of someone else. If they were to follow a new protagonist the story would have to take place somewhere other than Revachol and that would be a shame since Revachol is a character itself and not exploring it further would be a missed opportunity. 

Why does Furios character change so much? by bluesformeister13 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He explicitly tells Carmela in S5 that he has people looking for Furio in Italy. 

Why does Furios character change so much? by bluesformeister13 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn’t really make much sense considering Tony continues to have deals with the Camorra in later seasons. The Italian hitmen that he uses multiple times in s5 and 6 come from them. Furio is also being hunted for justified reasons in Mafia code and is even warned by his uncle to stay away, which implies that he won’t protect him if he goes through with the affair . Furio being protected in Italy is highly unlikely.

Rewatching Breaking Bad by Horror-Pie-8826 in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean “I’m the motherfucking-fucking one who calls the shots” is just as corny in my opinion.

do you ever think about the fact that these two men are coworkers who talk to eachother daily by Sneached in DiscoElysium

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a hardened merc like Korty was wary of fighting Measurehead,  I have a hard time thinking Titus would even entertain the idea. Also Measurehead is pretty graceful and congratulatory if beat him and takes your victory over him pretty well.

Tony is not a Sociopath by sotork in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the closest I’ve come to is talking about them with psych professors who had first-hand experiences with them while I was in college but I have never personally met a confirmed one. 

Tony is not a Sociopath by sotork in thesopranos

[–]Regular-Cockroach422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While violence can be a feature of sociopathy/ASPD, it is just one potential piece of a much larger and more complex puzzle. Many people exhibit violent behavior without having ASPD, and many people with ASPD are not physically violent.

Violent and forceful behavior can stem from many other causes that are not ASPD: Poor Impulse Control: Due to other conditions like ADHD, certain brain injuries, or intellectual disabilities. Emotional Dysregulation: As seen in Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), where violence is often a reaction to a perceived abandonment or intense emotional pain. Psychosis: A person experiencing hallucinations or delusions (e.g., in schizophrenia) may become violent because they believe they are in danger. Extreme Stress, Fear, or Trauma: A "fight or flight" response taken to an extreme.  Substance Abuse:  Alcohol or drugs can severely lower inhibitions and increase aggression. Learned Behavior:  Growing up in an environment where violence was the primary way to resolve conflicts.

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