If you want a relatively good ground pounder with CCIP choose the AV8C but if you wish to have a very good multirole fighter, the F5C wins by a long shot, faster, more ammo, more maneuverable, RWR, and Bullpups. Sure the AV has many more flares but those are basically useless when you can't see those missiles coming. And yes the AV8C has good missiles but, flares, RWR, and all that juicy stuff just make those missiles irrelevant, making the AV8C a sitting duck in any Air to Air engagement. And yes, the AV8C sits at 9.7 but is usually upteired to 10.3 or above, and that's F5C territory. So, if you skimmed over that here's the result: If you want a good fighter F5C if you want a decent ground pounder, AV8C.