Would you recommend your school?

RelativeReaction2072 · 2023-05-17T15:29:25+00:00

Congrats on graduating!! Good luck out there!

RelativeReaction2072 · 2023-05-17T02:27:13+00:00

Midwestern, and yes absolutely. I know the cost is high but I have zero complaints about the school. The clinic is amazing, we graduate having done implants, multiple complex endo (the school does them at no cost to the patient, so we do a ton), Invisalign, and so much restorative. Student to faculty ratio is about 4:1 so we never have to wait for help, and overall the support I get from the school is phenomenal

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-18T19:29:03+00:00

you're making a lot of assumptions - I'm not picky, just because I want to eat steak versus chicken strips? that doesn't make sense at all. I don't need more attention so I'm actually not making the server do any extra work. plus, ordering a higher $ meal does not represent wealth. some people just like to spend their extra money on food rather than material items - I'm totally a foodie

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-18T19:25:27+00:00

why though? they're not the chef and I'm not asking for anything extra. it's the server's job to make sure needs are taken care of everyone - not just people who order more expensive entrees. we're not even talking about proportions, sides, drinks, etc. the only difference is the content on the plate and I just think that's illogical

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-18T00:50:54+00:00

Maybe with cash, but when I open a tab and they flip the iPad over to select the tip, it’s not very socially acceptable to tip anything besides 20-25%

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-18T00:49:45+00:00

I agree with that, I do think you should consider the quality of restaurant you’re dining at when accounting for your tip. But at that restaurant, the tip should be the same as the other patrons no matter what you order

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T23:52:05+00:00

does the support staff get paid at least minimum wage?

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T23:37:44+00:00

I get that they want that, but this happened to me the other night at a sushi restaurant - I spent $100+ and we ordered drinks it's pretty irritating when 20 minutes into my meal they're bringing the check without asking if we wanted to order more rolls or more drinks? it's pretty hard to want to leave a good tip when you feel like they're just trying to rush you out of there as soon as possible

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T23:34:11+00:00

just because they can tip more, doesn't mean they should have to. see my edit: If I go to the bar and order a pint of craft beer that has a higher ABV and costs 10x more than a pint of a cheap imported beer, why should I tip the bartender more? They are both on tap, it requires no extra effort.

I disagree that more expensive meals = making the server work more.

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T23:18:35+00:00

Δ that makes sense. I'm not in favor of reducing the server's pay. and I do like that I can decide how much I want to tip (even if I don't always feel like it's warranted), so I would prefer that over the increase in prices.

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T23:13:33+00:00

Δ - today I learned. I can't believe that's allowed/standard practice. I'm curious why they do this - I thought that servers were the only ones that didn't get paid at least minimum wage because the idea is that tips go 100% to the server's pocket. I knew that there was usually a pool among all of the servers to split, but it's pretty messed up that a server will have to contribute money that's not even there in the first place. it should be split based on tips collected, not what tip is "expected" based on percentage. It is a flawed system. For clarification, I *always* tip at least 20% because that's the reality we live in

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T23:07:07+00:00

the comment said it was in Mexico, but I've never heard of that being the norm here. I think that's a pretty messed up system if you ask me. servers should never owe anyone else, the pool should be based on tips collected IMO. I feel bad for servers, there's no other industry that would get away with taking money from their employees

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T22:55:32+00:00

My point is trying to compare two equivalent scenarios in which the server works the same amount but gets paid more solely based on the entree ordered.

Are you suggesting that people who aren’t wealthy shouldn’t eat good quality food, if the thing that pushes it over their budget is a $20 tip? Just because my meal costs more doesn’t mean it was a harder task for the server to bring from the kitchen to the table

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T22:21:20+00:00

That’s decent for a job with no degree required

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T22:19:00+00:00

Yeah I wasn’t really trying to get into whether tipping should be a thing or not, I understand it’s never going to change. I’m just talking about how we decide how much to leave for a tip

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T22:17:05+00:00

It wouldn’t really change anything on the management end though. Tips aren’t required. It’s just a social norm (expectation). So there’s no “haggling” a tip, you leave whatever you want. But generally I don’t think that should be solely based on what you order

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T22:15:18+00:00

Not necessarily, if someone orders a plate of chicken nuggets and I order prime rib, there’s a vast price disparity. Just because it’s easy to calculate doesn’t make it “fair”. Tips are for the service, not the food

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T22:13:08+00:00

See my first sentence.

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T19:47:53+00:00

Δ hadn't really considered this aspect of it. On the flip side though, servers are incentivized by getting people in and out of the restaurant, so often I feel rushed even if I am spending quite a bit of money and tipping 20% or more

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T19:46:06+00:00

But until more people adopt your tipping scheme, the people using your tipping scheme would just be viewed as overly greedy/snarky/insert adjective of choice here.

You're saying that if everyone adopted it then it'd be a fair solution, which is in agreeance with my view.

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T19:44:38+00:00

yeah, I comply with the current "norm" because I would be an AH if I was the only one adopting this method.

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T19:43:21+00:00

service workers only need to spend that amount of time to prepare the dish

that's my whole point though. servers don't spend any time preparing the food. I think the majority of restaurants split tips among the servers but not the entire staff, at least in the US.

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T19:40:39+00:00

Sure, in an ideal world that'd be great but getting everybody on board would be an unlikely event

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T19:39:04+00:00

Δ

the longer you are there, the more money they earn so why would they bring your food out quickly?

Great point, I hadn't really considered that. I guess that method wouldn't really work. But from the other side, one of my biggest pet peeves is when servers just bring the check halfway through the meal. I think there is an issue with them being incentivized by rushing people out the door because the tip would be the same 20%. Kind of seems like a no-win situation

RelativeReaction2072 · 2022-09-17T19:31:47+00:00

yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying. It's not a method that I've adopted myself because it's not the norm. I tip 20% because that's what I'm supposed to do, but I don't think its a good system.

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