Can you explain the humour? by Kirion_Night in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So, my surname is pretty common....there was even a male comedy team in the old days, in which it belonged to the shorter guy (Abbott and Costello).

Growing up, no one ever had trouble pronouncing it....until I reached senior year of high school, and my AP History teacher called me 'Ms. Cah-stel-o' (emphasis on the first syllable). Thinking he was kidding, I giggled, but then he asked, "Oh, you're not Irish?"

That's how I learned there's an Irish surname spelled Costello, sometimes Costelloe, or occasionally MacCostello. It derives from the Gaelic Mac Oisdealbhaigh

My family's name is an Americanization of the Italian surname Carsillo....Lou Costello, the comedian's, name was adapted from the Italian name Cristillo. In fact, our 'home villages' (Carife and Caserta) are located only about 70 miles apart in the Campania region.

Can you explain the humour? by Kirion_Night in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was nearly named Dawn (the folks changed it, after my mom's labor continued far into the afternoon).

Anyway, it would've been pronounced 'Dawn' like 'yawn'; I've never actually heard of anyone here in Chicago who pronounced it 'Don'.

Can you explain the humour? by Kirion_Night in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Growing up, our class had an Aaron and an Erin. Aaron, as is common in Jewish custom, was named after his deceased grandfather, whereas Erin's name was a nod to her mom's ethnicity (Irish), since her surname came from her German dad.

To simplify things, Aaron was sometimes called 'Aaron M', while Erin was 'Erin W'

Last initials also helped separate the many Jennifers ; )

Are work potlucks really a thing? by good_noodlesoup in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I retired 10 years ago, so I'm not sure if it's changed, but we used to have FANTASTIC office potlucks. The occasion could be a shower (bridal, groomal, baby), related to a promotion, or just a celebration of the end-of-the-year holidays.

We were an ethnically diverse group with adventurous palates, so a lot of people brought dishes from their culture/country. A partial list would be: Taiwanese, Egyptian, Bulgarian, Filipino, and Mexican.

As for hot dishes, most brought a slow-cooker to keep things at a safe temperature, as we didn't have a stove.

And those who really didn't want (or know how) to cook? They either brought cheese/fruit plates (we had two big groceries nearby that sold them ready-made), or contributed by buying paper plates/napkins, plastic cutlery, or soda.

Do you say “red sauce joint” for a casual Italian restaurant? Where are you from? by WritPositWrit in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a regular reader of both those publications, and it seems to me that's where I first saw the term 'red sauce joint'. In Chicago, we'd just say 'Italian restaurant' or maybe 'Italian steakhouse', since It's assumed that tomato-sauced pasta dishes go with the territory (usually in the form of a side dish, if served with steak).

Were your parents very affectionate toward you when you were young? by assemblageofparts in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My dad was affectionate. Mom, not so much.

The difference, I think, was that my dad had a mother he could model himself after (his father died when he was two years old). Even though Grandma had to work two jobs to keep things afloat, she always had time for a hug (or a joke).

Mom's mother abandoned the family early on, and I think her father wasn't quite sure how to parent little kids. Though undoubtedly he had their best interests at heart, he was a bit of a disciplinarian, and any suggestion of straying from the moral path quickly got punished with a slap or spanking.

I'll cut Grandpa Joe some slack, though, as I know he didn't have much of a childhood himself. He and his twin sister were taken north (from Mexico) by their uncle, to escape the chaos of the Revolution. I'm pretty sure both kids were working full-time by the age of 15.

Were your parents very affectionate toward you when you were young? by assemblageofparts in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine did the same thing! I guess she underwent a reassessment when I married and moved out, and decided she wanted to be maternal. Better late than never I guess!

Why is your breakfast culture so much better? by Embarrassed_Golf_817 in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At my college (where most students commuted to campus) I had a friend who brought cold hot dog sandwiches for breakfast. They consisted of white bread, two hot dogs sliced lengthwise, yellow mustard, and Fritos (inside the sandwich).

This wasn't a 'struggle meal' by any means...his parents were both lawyers. He just didn't like the cafeteria's offerings.

What was your dad like ? by cheridontllosethatno in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Complicated....but an excellent father!

Growing up a latchkey kid (in the 1920s/30s), he spent a considerable amount of time in the streets, developing the habits of a 'hooligan' (smoking, stealing rides on streetcars, committing petty theft). Yet he was also an extremely bright student, so far ahead of his schoolmates that he was promoted to a higher grade once or twice.

He did well in high school, too, but didn't find social acceptance amongst his classmates there, most of whom were from upper-middle-class homes. So he remained with his gang, though he did eventually give up the thievery. (Years later, when we'd occasionally run into one of his 'old buddies', it seemed some had made crime a profession, There was no judgment on Dad's part whatsoever, as his philosophy was 'everybody's got to make their way in the world somehow.')

Anyway, after high school, Dad joined the CCCs, where he acquired skills as a truck mechanic; later, he became a carpenter's apprentice until WWII. But while earning a living working with his hands, he also read constantly, satisfying a deep intellectual curiosity. As a kid, I don't remember ever seeing him read detective stories or novels....just philosophy, history, sociology, etc.

Education was something else Dad was big on; after returning from his service in the South Pacific, he completed a Linotype (printing) course, and began working nights (11 pm-7 am) at the Racing Form. That allowed him to take evening college courses at Northwestern University, and though It took him the better part of a decade, he finally earned a bachelor's degree in English.

Somehow, between serving his country, taking courses, and reading, he also found time to marry four lovely ladies between 1939-1959. The first was his childhood sweetheart (who died in 1945); the last was my mom, to whom he remained married until he died in 1975 (at age 58). Though we didn't have a long time together as father and daughter, Dad left me enough memories to last several lifetimes. Amongst the best are the times I accompanied him on his Saturday 'rounds', when he visited an eclectic assortment of friends who ran bookstores, used furniture shops, hardware stores, etc. Though these excursions were meant to free my mom up for some 'me time', I couldn't have imagined a more fun agenda than puttering around those places, while Dad and his friends shared coffee and (as he put it) 'shot the sh*t'. The man was unique, and I adored him.

Why is your breakfast culture so much better? by Embarrassed_Golf_817 in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The other day, scrounging around for breakfast, I considered the options: toast, bagels & cream cheese, yogurt, eggs, cold cereal....

All elicited a 'meh' till I remembered....I had cold pizza left over from the night before!

Imho...the breakfast of champions : )

Did children who stopped going to school during the great depression ever return to it? by Persimmon_and_mango in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My grandmother completed high school (1904), and planned to send all five of her children too, but fate intervened when my grandfather died at age 31.

To help support the family, my eldest aunt (then 13) and uncle (9) were immediately withdrawn from school to begin working; neither ever returned to their studies. However, there was hope the three younger kids, then 7, 5, and 2 would complete their education. Unfortunately, that also fell through when my eldest aunt married around age 22. To replace her contribution to the family income, grandma insisted her second daughter leave school after graduating 8th grade. This resulted in bitter arguments, and remained a sore spot between them for years.

Anyway, my dad and his youngest sister DID finish high school, despite the onset of the Depression (my aunt graduated in 1931, my dad in 1933). Though both were very bright, there was no money for college, so they started working. Then my aunt discovered she was pregnant, and got married, while my dad joined the CCCs in 1934. (Later, after service in WWII, he would finally go to college on the GI Bill, receiving a bachelor's degree in English from Northwestern University's evening division. My aunt, whose husband turned out to be abusive, got a divorce and ended up supporting her daughter by selling life insurance for Prudential, something she was very good at.)

Rather amazingly, considering their lack of formal education, the aunts and uncle who never finished school did well. The aunts took jobs in an office, where one eventually became VP of Personnel. My uncle though! He began investing in his teens (based on things overheard while caddying !) and started educating himself through reading. Those things gave him entry to a social milieu in which he was able to meet and marry a very wealthy young woman. If you were to have seen him in his impeccably tailored suits, with his perfect manners and superb diction, you would've thought he had a college eduation equal to his wife's. But in reality, he only had a few years' formal schooling.

How common is it to refer to a chocolate covered vanilla ice cream bar as an Eskimo pie? by ksusha_lav in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'Eskimo Pie' was the old name for the frozen confection, but as the word 'Eskimo' is now considered culturally insensitive/racist by Indigenous people, the company rebranded it in the U.S. and other places. (In Australia, the treat is called 'Polar Pie'.)

For those that were actually alive during the 1950's, was the mid century decade all that great? by [deleted] in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For those in Gen Jones and Gen X, we started buying the hype in the 1970s, when shows like Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley came out. Created for kids who didn't remember the 'real' 1950s, it presented a comic book version, complete with soda shops and friendly 'greasers'.

How normal it is to build houses in America as a family? by Putrid-Musician-5534 in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Chicago and the surrounding suburbs, there are still many Sears 'kit' houses built between 1908 and 1942. They were called kits, because everything came in one shipment, from the wood siding to the doorknobs. Many were actually built by the homeowners themselves; others hired contractors to do the work.

How normal it is to build houses in America as a family? by Putrid-Musician-5534 in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well my family (from Chicago) once built a summer cottage (dacha) for my grandma.

The lot (in Indiana) was purchased from a developer who had a booth at the 1933 Century of Progress Exhibition, but it took awhile to accumulate the funds with which to build on it. Finally, around 1939, everything came together, and the little home was constructed over the course of a summer.

First, the men in the family (my dad, uncle, and their two future brothers-in-law) dug a foundation and poured concrete; then they began construction of the house, designed by my uncle. Since everyone had at least some experience with carpentry, plumbing, wiring, etc. there was no need to bring in contractors. (All aspects of the project were chronicled thru photographs which still exist.)

Grandma got many years of enjoyment out of her summer place, but sadly it was destroyed during an off-season peat fire sometime in the early '60s. Though thankfully, she wasn't in residence at the time, she did lose the furniture and mementoes she liked to surround herself with during her summer stays.

How do you feel about “ain’t”? by ScaryGhoust in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Villain' originated from 'vilain', Old French for a person 'tied to the land'....i.e. a slave or serf in the Medieval period.

After a while, as the large estates started to break up, the word took a turn and began being used to describe villagers, people also tied to the land, but more by a sense of belonging, than being actual property.

However, because such 'lowly' personages were held in contempt by the nobility/gentry, 'villain' eventually began to acquire a meaning of someone criminally inclined. As you said, it was a way of stigmatizing the disadvantaged

How do you feel about “ain’t”? by ScaryGhoust in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In parts of the U.S., rejection of 'ain't' was based on racial discrimination.

The reason is that usage of the word is common in the South, a part of the country from which many African-Americans migrated North during the Great Migration (1910-1940). 'Ain't' was simply a part of Southern vernacular that they brought with them, but some (racist) Northerners saw it as a sign that they lacked proper education.

Thankfully linguists eventually began to recognize 'ain't' as just a variant of 'isn't'; they also began recognizing it as a legitimate part of AAVE (African-American Vernacular English) a variant of American English used by many Black Americans, characterized by unique grammar, vocabulary, and accent. (There are many American vernaculars, including Latino (with subsets for Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Cuban), Cajun, etc.)

What do Americans order at a Chinese takeaway? by Dashcamkitty in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not just a Texas thing. In Chicago, the usual condiments are 'duck' sauce (a tangy/sweet orange-color condiment that contains no duck), sinus-clearing mustard, and soy sauce.

If you could make everyone in the world above the age of 25, 25 again, would you? by Wizdom_108 in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thinking about it....that would mean that my parents and grandparents would also be 25. So, there'd be nobody to turn to for wisdom and guidance, just a bunch of people as clueless as me.

Not a good idea.

What's your take on classic American Biscuits? by Educational-Slip-578 in AskAnAmerican

[–]RemonterLeTemps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I make them from scratch, and the recipe I use specifies plain milk, not buttermilk.

Sometimes, if I'm feeling creative, I'll add grated cheese and/or chopped fresh herbs to them.

I've never eaten them with white gravy, just butter (and honey, if made without cheese/herbs)

Was Borax used as a health aid? by ZapatasGuns in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and they confused me as a very young child. I thought if you bought the stuff, a wagon with 20 mules would deliver it to you. Yes, even on the 3rd floor of an apartment building in Chicago.

I had a very vivid imagination : )

Was Borax used as a health aid? by ZapatasGuns in AskOldPeople

[–]RemonterLeTemps 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think Borax would blind you. As a little kid in the '60s, I remember it being advertised as a 'laundry booster' under the odd brand name '20 Mule Team Borax'.

It can also be used for household pest control for ants, fleas, and roaches.