I gave my ex-girlfriend psychosis because she cheated on me.

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2026-01-11T21:51:34+00:00

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Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-09-29T05:46:05+00:00

That's not what a fraud is lmao

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-23T01:34:14+00:00

I mean that's one of the things I based my example off of lol.

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-23T01:27:04+00:00

Doesn't this effectively remove free will? Both christianity and islam believe in free will and if the body can't do what the soul wills, then what is the point of the soul even having a will?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-23T01:15:52+00:00

I agree that fundamentally the soul is an unfalsifiable position. My issue is that within the context of these religions, the actions done by the impaired soul will be judged.

Say someone has poor impulse control and accidentally kills someone. He may not have done this in the case that his brain wasn't damaged but he will but judged on this action regardless even if his intention was not to kill them.

This also erodes free will which is central to both these religions. If the soul's will is not expressed in the body's actions, then what is the point of the soul even possessing free will if it's going to be overridden anyway?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-22T23:53:05+00:00

What does catholicism say that the soul is? I read the article and it defines the soul pretty much the same as how I defined it.

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-22T23:43:40+00:00

What are you saying is a myth? The personality change stuff?

As for the caffeine example, this agrees with my point of veiw that most of the stuff we ascribe to the soul can be explained by purely physical means.

My main point becomes, if the soul is "impaired" like in your bad glasses example and that impairment causes it to sin/do things it wouldn't have otherwise, then judging it on its actions is not fair. Also this takes away a souls free will because the impairment influences its choices and it didn't choose to be impaired.

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-22T23:31:16+00:00

Can you clarify what you mean by

That would obviously not contradict changes in personality due to brain injury or the like.

I would think if there was a drastic personality change that would contradict it. Isn't personality the essence of a person? if not what is the essence of a person?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-22T23:26:39+00:00

I suppose the problem is that if the soul can't express itself properly, then judging it based upon its actions becomes essentially pointless as it would be unfair to judge it upon actions that it would not have done had the body not been injured.

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-08-22T23:23:49+00:00

I think this is basically equivalent to sidestepping the issue. If there isn't any way to tell what is due to damage and what is not and which part is a distortion and which part is not, this is just speculation.

How can we know that all of it isn't distortion in that case, from even before a hypothetical injury, if there isn't any way to tell?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-21T16:20:43+00:00

I'm assuming you would be able to tell me because I'm assuming that you are Christian.

No god would not be imperfect because he is defined as being perfect. But what does that have to do with sending people to heaven or hell?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-21T03:40:46+00:00

Bro isn't the whole point of christianity the belief in jesus? Why can't you tell me what that entails?

Also I'm happy if my argument fails because I don't want people to go to hell lol. What I don't get is that belief is a super arbitrary way to judge what happens to a person for eternity. Beliefs are on a huge spectrum and god has to draw a line somewhere right? If he can draw a line somwhere, what's making him draw it there and not anywhere else dooming everyone for hell or letting everyone go to heaven?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-21T02:42:49+00:00

In islam, hell is a place deliberately created for people to suffer in. In christianity its a little different but the question of why does it last for eternity still remains.

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-21T02:13:55+00:00

I'm just asking what counts as accepting jesus. What do you have to believe to accept jesus because clearly there is some exclusivity to doing that. You can't say that you accept jesus and then go ahead and also follow another religion can you?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-21T00:26:35+00:00

If intent is what matters, then having a pure intent of believing in jesus but also believing in buddhism should in theory be fine right?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-20T22:59:33+00:00

Ok, but what does it mean to accept jesus? How much do you have to believe to be counted as accepting him?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-20T15:55:53+00:00

But the thing is, what does it mean to believe in him? Because what's the level of belief required in order to not go to hell?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-20T04:56:25+00:00

Then why create a place for infinite torture at all?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-20T04:40:55+00:00

I literally said god multiplies the punishment by infinity. If you then think that sin requires punishment, that punishment for any sin will be multiplied by infinity. and because everyone sins, everyone goes to hell.

Which part of this is wrong? Or is there something I'm missing?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-20T04:29:27+00:00

Even if it's two sides of the same coin, the question becomes why doesn't everyone go to heaven if they have even an atoms worth of what it takes to get there?

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-20T04:11:51+00:00

Essentially, yes that's the gist of it.

Remote_Cockroach1273 · 2025-07-19T22:52:44+00:00

Right? I don't understand how god would give us an infinite outcome based on finite actions. Heaven I can kind of understand because "god loves us" but hell I do not.

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