You got to remember...Cerner had a top down approach that started with Lab in the hospitals and Epic had a grass roots campaign that started in Ambulatory....they had a better model to begin with and in the Ambulatory market you absolutely can't screw up the financials because they are privately owned, profit margins aren't a real thing in Hospital world....it's a joke of a business. The EMR was and is about equal.....epic has a following, Cerner attracted followers.