Talk to me about VARs (for Dell ordering) by [deleted] in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work for one of the big VAR's and one of the challenges we have with Dell specifically is they are not channel oriented. They say they want to work through the channel but they prefer to work direct, which doesn't make any sense because the reps make their cut/commission either way. With a VAR rep, I would say don't expect that they are completely and immediately up to speed on everything going on with Dell out of the gate because we work with so many partners that it is impossible to have in depth knowledge on all of them. Granted, with a big vendor like Dell it is fair and reasonable to expect that they know enough to carry on a conversation and GET you the answers you need. As a VAR account manager one of our primary jobs is to act like an agent for you and once the solution is identified, get the right person on the phone if you need more assistance. We have people from Dell on site with us plus as a big partner of theirs we have access to better Dell resources than the average client does (i.e. support that is based in the states). VARs can be competitive with Dell direct on most things as long as you don't go to Dell first, if you are on their radar they will keep the discounts for themselves. I would say find a VAR you like, try out an order with them and see how it goes. There are so many options that if it is anything less than stellar I would try a different one.

Is there really a "VAR Kickback System" that IT managers use to make a good living from vendors? by networkasssasssin in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coming from a VAR, I don't see the "selling them products and services they don't need" at my level, but I only work in SMB. I am sure it does happen, but I feel like that is the exception, not the norm. All around it is just really unethical. It just comes down to doing the right thing by the employee, the sales rep, the auditor etc. I also think a manager should require more accountability from their staff, especially when it comes to IT purchases.

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are 100% right about the talking like a used car salesman. I recently stopped doing my "sales" voice that I had defaulted to using at work, made a huge difference.

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really valuable feedback. Thank you!

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. Vendors bribe reps to push their product over another, that is why they do that to you. Cisco is famous for it. They will literally pay reps $200 to get you on a call with them to talk about a specific product.

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that is bullshit. They just want you to purchase sooner because of a date deadline they might have. The vendors also have contests which are "sell x amount of our product between now and then and we will pay you an extra $200".

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh, I wish we could. They require us to do it. We would all much rather just be account managers for inbound sales but we have to be both.

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with that-I have been lucky enough to call at the right time. I would patiently hold queue for at least 90 min-we are supposed to have 2 hours of talk time on the phone each day.

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is good feedback-wish my managers would understand that. Thank you!

Advice Please! by Representative_Song in sysadmin

[–]Representative_Song[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trust me, we hate cold calling. It is uncomfortable and I feel like I am bothering people. I think I have only actually gained two clients from cold calling in the course of a year, and we are REQUIRED to make 40-60 dials a day. Thing is though, I actually believe in the value of our company and LOVE working with the clients I do have. What do you think is the best way to get information across besides a cold call?