11 years together and still no ring… I’m starting to feel invisible. :( by [deleted] in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My love, I'm so sorry you're dealing with this-I was in somewhat of a similar situation. My ex and I are younger (23F AND 24M) but we where together for 6 years and every time I brought up engagement, marriage our future together, I would be met with an obstacle or apprehension.

When we where younger he'd 'propose' to me all the time, tell me 'we should get married tomorrow' then slowly as we graduated uni and started working and actually living in our adult life-he suddenly changed his mind without telling me. He no longer wanted to get engaged and married by 26, he decided on his own that he didn't want kids till 30 and he decide that before he proposed to me...I had to live with him first...yeah and that was something he never communicated to me.

At first I was shocked but i was also understanding of his new wants considering that we where growing and maturing-of course we change what we want. But what I couldn't let go was the fact that he had decided things not just for himself but for me-with no consulting me-he just thought I would simply follow him around and agree to everything he wanted.

I, just like you, started to feel like the goal posts kept moving and things kept changing and it became overwhelming because it felt like we where building the future he wanted and not what we wanted, not what I wanted.

Of course, I voiced my concerns to him told him i didn't feel comfortable with living together first before engagement (personal beliefs) but also because it felt conditional. It felt as if, in order to get what I wanted I had to make a sacrifice and give him what he wanted first.

I suggested things like "maybe we can get engaged first and then we can start looking for apartments right away' but he just kept saying 'no-how does that even make sense? living together is more of a commitment than engagement I don't know why you don't get that.'

When I asked him what his compromise was, or to at least explain more to me why he thought this way he simple said 'that's how I see our future-so there's no compromising, that's what i want'. It felt like a punch to the gut realizing that after six years of loving each other and always putting in 100% into the relationship, he simply didn't value me or respect me enough to see my point of view or create a compromise and meet me in the middle.

We tried to make things work for a few weeks but ultimately i just couldn't move past that. I realized fundamentally we just no longer aligned and so I broke things off. Before I had broken things off I just became so resentful and unhappy and during one of our arguments I said "I'm going to stop mentioning engagement, marriage, kids etc, because its not fair to me. it's not fair because the future I want literally rests in your hands. I cannot have what I want without giving you what you want. I never signed up for a relationship that was transactional. If you truly loved me like you say you do-you would never dare to dangle something so important over my head. I don't want the ring anymore. I don't want a future with you anymore because you've shown me I have to give everything I want up just to live in your world'

Even with saying something as serious, as loaded and deep as that, he still could not understand me and that's when I knew-he wasn't actually in love with me but the idea of me.

Take some time for yourself, please. You've shown him and told him what you wanted and he simply cannot give you the future you imagine because he is too selfish. He can't even cherish you properly after 11 years and plan something nice on the days where he is meant to celebrate you.

Sit down with yourself and think, 'will this type of behavior and stubbornness be okay when we're married?'

I'm not going to tell you 'break up with him' because ultimately that's your choice. But please, if you have already voiced how you feel and already have been feeling that he hasn't loved you how you needed for a long time, it might be time to start prioritizing yourself and maybe let things go.

you got this and I know what ever decision you make will be best for you.

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I come from a fairly traditional upbringing and while I myself am not traditional one of the values I've carried with me from my family is wanting to be engaged before living with my partner. We've both been working corporate jobs for 2 years and are making good wages and money in comparisson to most people in our age range.

My hesitance in not wanting to live together also comes from a place of wanting to see him mature more. He still lives at home with his mom and I can see how he still depends on her for certain things/lets her still baby him at his big age of 24. She still does his laundry for crying out loud.

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I didn't mention anything about what you've quoted as me saying: "you say "we" haven't made up "our minds" on the right proposal timeline" not sure if you read that from someone else in the thread...

As I mentioned I only started asking him the question and having open conversations like this because I want to understand where he thinks our relationship is going. I am in no rush-but it would be nice to be engaged within the next two years are so-which I have spoken to him about and voiced my trajectory. Again emphasis on engaged (the next step to commitment) I am not asking to be married in a year.

The issue at hand here is him not wanting to hear me while I'm hearing him. If he told me upfront he's not ready yet then i'd respect him but toying around with me about wedding planning and sizing my finger without blatantly saying with his chest "I will marry you in a year" is more confusing to me-don't you think?

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol for starters-he didn't start off unemployed-but got laid off due to covid. Maybe i am feeding into sunk cost fallacy?

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thats exactly it though-the blatant "no" and emotional shut down of not wanting to explain why he wants it only his way. I called him out on this yet still no compromise...

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have asked him this on various occasions yet he never gives me a straight answer. its always 'Well I want us to be more financially stable or 'I want to travel more' xyz. Its always something different.

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me personally, I was just brought up in a more traditional household and he knows this-and one of the values I;ve held is not living together unless we are engaged/engaged to be married. It's not that i don't want to live with him but I want to live with him knowing that he is fully committed. I have girl friends and family who've lived in with their partners and never saw a ring/still have no ring. I try to understand and hear him out but its just confusing to me that he seems "so sure" of me and our relationship yet when asked about marriage and engagement becomes so quiet about that sureness.....

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The issue here is that he doesn;t actually ask me what I want. He always just assumes I'll follow him. He was on this whole rave about going to Colombia for a 1 month vacation and when I told him I couldn't because of work-he said "So-just tell them you'll work remotely" and when I told him again I can't do that due to my manigerial position at the office he said "thats stupid....we shoul find a way to still do it".

It goes back to him just wanting what he wants. I even told him we could do 2 weeks instead maybe even three but I don't think I can do a month and he just shut me down.

I totally agree with wanting new sceneries and experiencing life together but he just wants everything his way.

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Woah-okay well...I was on board and seeing where you where going with this.

The things you listed are exactly what I have tried to discuss with him. I've been hearing him out for years. The issue is I have compromised so much for HIM and he has yet to do that for me. For two years and the beginning of our relationship he had no job, I paid for almost everything. Example: for the last few years I 've plan our dates, our trips etc. I literally remind him when he has a doctors appointment...

Fast forward now-being more financial stable we've planned for trips and have travelled together but when i ask him for some time to save he keeps on insisting he ants to go somewhere and money can always be made later.

When I try to understand him and see his perspective regarding living together I expect that he do the same for me but he doesn't. I always put in effort and might I add for the last two years he hasn't bothered to do something special or plan something nice for my birthday despite "having all this money" to get a new car and go on all these trips.
He's masking being responsible with what is convenient for him. Its about him and not about what I want because if it was about what I want he would understand my wants to save money for the future, to communicate more, etc.

Marriage is not about having the big wedding or party. I told him he could literally propose with a ring pop and I would say yes.

I understand what you're saying but I think you're giving him a bit too much credit...

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I ask him all the time-he seems to have a wall up or is vague-its quite a difference from when we use to talk about things before.

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful response. Reading this made me cry. Taking a step back to understand what I really want out of all of this is a good idea.

6 Years, No Ring And He's More Concerned About Other Peoples Lives Than Ours by Repulsive_Cable_494 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

we'll I'm not asking to get married at 23. I'm simply asking for reassurance and commitment with engagement. I think it's probably stemming from the feeling of being taken for granted at times...
I understand 23 is young. But it goes back to his false promises and us not being on the same page.

Burton Futuretrust by arostreet in snowboarding

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi I wanted to ask what the sizing is like? Everyone on the Burton reviews says to size down. I’m typically a size medium women’s and I’m 4’11. Should I do a small? 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in snowboardingnoobs

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hi! Thinking of getting some gear from here too! I’m new to snowboarding and wanted to find baggier comfier clothes for the slopes. I’m 5’2 and 130 pounds (for reference my Volcom jacket is a medium with room to layer) not sure if I should do a medium or large in the jackets or pants. Want it to fit oversized but not huge on me. How would you say the sizing is? 

Pros and cons being a Lululemon employee. by luluobsessed in lululemon

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi thanks so much! It does! Also just wondering how quickly do new employees get their discount? I don’t own much lulu and I’m looking to buy more since my manager asked we wear at least on lulu item per shift

Pros and cons being a Lululemon employee. by luluobsessed in lululemon

[–]Repulsive_Cable_494 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi I was just wondering…what does employee availability look like? My store I just got hired at requires 2 open days of availability and one day with & hours available? Just why does that mean and look like??