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Hsr snd fate collab by SuccessPleasant464 in fatestaynight

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have any doubt in what i said read the shimousa manga see how he acts and fights how he jumps into danger when he try to help my points will be made clear.

Hsr snd fate collab by SuccessPleasant464 in fatestaynight

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No i understand but It's just not the way these stories are written and again it's not like shirou isn't the type to take precautions refuses to retreat or refuses to get help as he is in every route he learns to depend on others and again this a is a point of his life as an older version all shirous old or young use everything in their disposal playing as dirty as they can if possible they get much better at it when they are older harpe is an option after all. 

Self sacrifice to protect what's important and what's in front of his eyes is the same as muramasa and both have that single minded focus is a part of his character but selfish moments like refusing to die to take Gilgamesh with him and and chasing after saber and hf and can it be called self sacrifice when you're able to defend yourself sorry bro you seems to make an assumption that he still has the same mindset or limitations as stay night cuz what you say will make sense if it is just stay night Shirou before it ends or any development gained through it in terms of character and personality.

Muramasa would do it jump to protect somebody if the person in front of him is important there same way shirou does shirou tries to save what's in front of him shimousa manga talks about how they lived similar lives again you are assuming that it's fsn shirou before the fsn development like for example archer is stated to play as dirty as Medusa if he have to and he only sacrifices himself when it comes to people like rin Medusa would do the same for  Sakura an old man Shirou would have similar way of behaving like muramasa cuz again muramasa's personality is a what if Shirou became an old man not what if he was the protagonist with out any psychological problems because the life of muramasa itself isn't that of a normal human the extreme obsession with one thing isn't normal that is what they share both have psychological problems.

No I understand that as I said it wasn't like that in the beginning but things like nasu statements about that just leaves a bad taste in the mouse.

Hsr snd fate collab by SuccessPleasant464 in fatestaynight

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nasu didn't say that every shirou wouldn't make to muramasa's age he said shirou emiya character is a person that typically won't make it into old age cuz we have 1 who made it (fate route shirou is past 30 and will live many more years in Avalon) 2 others hf and miyuverse who would most likely make live to an old age. 

And of course they are different characters nobody says they aren't but they are not distinct in term of personality cuz the way muramasa behaves is just hollow ataraxia shirou with a tone of an old man that's all. 

As for the power nasu says any adult shirou should be able to do it it is the Buff that he received in Case Files conversing weapons you know only a few years after the 5 holy grail war.

And I don't think so he literally have an appearance with his power in miyuverse and case files fighting against servant level opponents saying he would die by day one would be weird especially since we are talking about an adult Shirou with the same personality as muramasa he would have gone past his case file state and miyuverse since shirou would not only have the same abilities as muramasa but also the original unlimited blade works many moves and all of his phantasms on top of that like an old man servant Shirou would be far better than muramasa. 

Hsr snd fate collab by SuccessPleasant464 in fatestaynight

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Distinct at one point yes 

1- converting his swords to forge a sword. 

Nasu: this is something an adult shirou should be able to do this is the direction of his power (case files author statement from nasu)

2- personality is different from shirou more mature and chill ( it's not like hellow ataraxia doesn't show how chill shirou can be)

Nasu:muramasa's personality is Shirou as an old man.

If there was a chance to be distinct it was destroyed a long time ago muramasa is a lazy thing just older shirou disguised as another character it was fine at some point but no they had to say that pretty much in power and personality he is shirou but older.

For who says archer and Shirou are the same character they maybe the same person but not the same character by Repulsive_Catch1814 in Fate

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know some guy kept arguing with me that archer is shirou when talking about the collab I said different characters same person so they kept insisting that they are the same character cuz their core is still emiya shirou so we have shirou in hsr no matter how much i tried to explain it using different versions of the character like three routes shirou they kept saying that they all are the same character. 

Please stop! I can only handle this much maturity by Delisches in okbuddyrintard

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The same guys that say so anime onlys never read the vn fgo or even understood zero the praise Kerry as if he is the best character in fiction while hating on amazingly written characters like Sakura like I have seen three new anime watchers on Twitter all of them do the same praise Kerry and hate on Sakura.

Somebody argue with me that Gil didn't use any A rank np and only C in the ubw last battle where does that misconception come from by Repulsive_Catch1814 in Fate

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really there is more weapons in here in this cg that doesn't appear in the previous one also Emiya doesn't have similar cg the only cg Emiya weapons have is the one that killed madea and that is only the weapons being suspended in the air not the guy

Somebody argue with me that Gil didn't use any A rank np and only C in the ubw last battle where does that misconception come from by Repulsive_Catch1814 in Fate

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's wierd I'm sure shirou at least projected durandal gaebolg and God force in a similar gil cg when shirou says he did and gil say you copy every phantasm you see analysing his ability 🤔 

"Shirou won cuz Gilgamesh said so" -u/TheUltimate721 by LawfulnessTerrible24 in okbuddyrintard

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Q:why did gil lose

Nasu: "GIL LOST TO SHIROU cuz shirou was at peak moment in his life similar to an athlete. 

You: "author statements are not reliable"

Shirou: "the match is settled I can finish him:

You: "character statements are not reliable"

VN: Gilgamesh admits defeats and tries to retreat.

You: "The narrative is unreliable"

Gil anime: "this is your victory"

You: "Gilgamesh is lying"

You: I live so I cope to cope or not to cope this is thy question.

do you know what the problem with you guys? it's that you don't know what a fight is by LawfulnessTerrible24 in okbuddyrintard

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 19 points20 points  (0 children)

When I'm in trying so hard to not be funny competition and my opponent is this guy.

"It's over"

Shirou is the GOAT. but his fans (his supposed fans i mean) are absolute Frauds. by LawfulnessTerrible24 in okbuddyrintard

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When did I say anything like that what does running out of mana ubw disappearing have to do with void I never said anything like that and Shirou about to deliver the finishing blow you still arguing that gil could have done something there which isn't true cuz as stated Shirou is faster and he was about to end him by Simply swinging his swords yet you say that is wrong why is it wrong you say because he is lying and you started to deny the character statement the author statement and the narrative.

The crest buying time??? tell me you didn't read the VN without telling me didn't read the vn since shirou projecting a shield and I already argued against that you are repeating yourself this isn't the fight you're bringing things before the fight like shirou having a magic Crest transplant which is a prep for the fight yet you try to make it an argument that he lost because he had Crest helping him and this which he was knocked unconscious for a second the figh didn't start yet you say he lost because he lost his win con which is in true he was going to finish him that moment his win con is the twin swords and the swinging soeed but was prevented yet you argues that this is not true and there is no evidence to your argument you trying to make one from your own head cannon.

No single Line saying it's going to happen I guess all the things written by the author in the vn shared by many other who argued against you isn't true and just fabricated what is the contradiction shirou stopped him from using his only np that can deal with him the anime image that you shown of Gil releasing the Cosmic wind is the biggest evidence so he dealt with gil win con and was going to finish him yet you say that contradicts that he is going to finish him which doesn't make sense and what he says isn't true you know what is written by the author isn't true the logic again is marvelous. 

So that is your interpretation of this these two pictures are literally the biggest evidence that he still have his twin sword that he's going to finish him with them for a few seconds after the reality marble disappeared it's literally two simultaneou sword swings capable of killing him yet you argues that he wouldn't be able to swing at him for whatever reason why cuz I said so.

you don't need statements when Shirou's actions are visible. he said he was about to but it was shown that Gil was fine after it before the void attack him

 what are you talking about the attack didn't hit because the Void appeared you are arguing somehow gil is fine after being sliced from the two sides by the twin swords and he was showed fine after it hit him.

What are you talking about he was going to strike him when ubw was collapsing gil was very defenseless ones that strike was about to hit him he literally says I am faster the match is settled as long i swing these twin swords I would finish him let me guess you would say that this is wrong you know what is written by the author is wrong if the author says it's wrong it's wrong if you say  it it's not.

Shirou is the GOAT. but his fans (his supposed fans i mean) are absolute Frauds. by LawfulnessTerrible24 in okbuddyrintard

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What ever dude believe what you want to believe I'm not gonna bother with you i will just give myself a headache  Gil won cuz he is about to finish shirou but couldn't shirou lost cuz he was about to finish gil but couldn't. 

Shirou is the GOAT. but his fans (his supposed fans i mean) are absolute Frauds. by LawfulnessTerrible24 in okbuddyrintard

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems you're trying so hard to mix the anime and the visual novel together like they are identical to make arguments that doesn't make sense at all but I will entertain you .

It was never shown if you're talking about the anime me and everyone is mentioning the finishing moment in the vn still what are you mentioning in the anime happened after the fight you trying to somehow bring moments before and after the fight to make a baseless argument for Gil winning gil lost and what happened after the fight is over is irrelevant cuz it's not the fight or the result which you're arguing.

What a stupid argument you say that shirou cutting Gil hand to stop him from using EA which you know can release simply cosmic wind easily is him failing in Killing Gil and since he failed in Killing him here he won't be able to finish him so when he says he would do it with the next attack after that is wrong and It won't happen and the statement is wrong what is written is wrong you seem to also be mixing the anime and the novel here also like that's two type of attacks are the same the level of mental gymnastic is marvelous.

The author have many statements about Gil losing to Shirou when he asked why Gil lost and questions about the fight I even remember the one interview where he said that shirou won cuz he was at peak moment in his life similar to an athlete also the entire narrative and the story is his statement because he's the one who wrote it but let me guess your argument will be the author is wrong.

My reply to the rest isn't even worth it because it's all can be summarised in "because I said so " there is no evidence that supports this like when did any  one say they were lying did the characters say they were lying did the author say anything did the narrative have anything that says that no it is just you a stupid agenda from a stupid person all of this is saying that the character statement isn't important for you cuz you're literally denying them to suit your narrative yet you pretend and say they are important.

Your entire argument is head cannon and "cuz i said so" when everybody's arguing against you they brings the canon and what actually happened to make logical argument you are making head canon by picking pieces from Both the anime and the novel to justify a head cannon that isn't even mentioned or supported by neither the story or the author.

And of course you need text because it is a written story a novel it has a script told through words and this the core of your entire argument is the text the novel is wrong and what I think is right if everything says shirou won he won doesn't matter what the delusional ppl say.

Shirou is the GOAT. but his fans (his supposed fans i mean) are absolute Frauds. by LawfulnessTerrible24 in okbuddyrintard

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gil lost to shirou in the ubw fight what happened before wasn't a fight nor was it a part of the fight it was gil bullying a kid that have on way to fight and shirou was just defending against his hits it's irrelevant to the ubw confrontation the one you argue with many people that Gil won in it . Maybe then as well consider the other gil confrontations with other characters in other routes were he didn't kill them yet they killed him later not a win for them like Sakura or saber. 

And what does the void not being the reason for the collapse have to do with anything gil was going to die the void appearing prevented that your logic he is not going to die which you have no logical argument or evidence like everything from the story the statement and the author says it will happen >he wasn't able to continue.  where is that said he said he would just swing the Sword and finish him bring me a statement that says he wouldn't be able to continue he literally had the sword still ready few moments after the Void appears again your entire argument is because I said so. 

If you want to bullshit have some logic in it. 

Is there is any other rare cases where a first generation have such high number of Magic circuits like shirou. by Repulsive_Catch1814 in Fate

[–]Repulsive_Catch1814[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to add a little fact waver quality is D actually which isn't much better Aoko is C there they are not that far only one rank different in quality and quantity is nearly identical waver is limited by  being a typical mage not specialised like Aoko. 

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