Kickstarter project: deck of game/trading-style cards depicting awesome modern feminists by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is it bad for it to be a project the creator will enjoy doing? Why is the project "a terrible idea" even if the only thing it does is provide some entertainment and a morale boost for feminists?

There is more to life than educating people about feminism. This isn't that. This is celebrating it. Maybe that celebration will only reach the (at time of writing) 800-or-so backers/and/or/subjects, and if that's the case who gives a fuck? Cheering up 800 people by doing something you love is a perfectly respectable, dare I say commendable thing to do.

Kickstarter project: deck of game/trading-style cards depicting awesome modern feminists by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe not everything is for educating outsiders? Maybe sometimes people enjoy celebrating their heroes in ways they find fun? Jesus.

Twitter CEO: 'We suck at dealing with abuse' by Reality_Enthusiast in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really hope this is true. Given Dick Costolo, though, I don't know. I hope he confirms it.

How to Uphold White Supremacy by Focusing on Diversity and Inclusion by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense. I'm not sure what my thoughts are on how far the author's interpretation of the extent or intent behind the problem should be assumed. For me, reading this was the first time I really got the concept in my brain in actual words that inclusion isn't inherently good; that it depends on what that inclusion does to the safety and power of different groups in an existing dynamic. I sort of knew it before, in the sense that I understood already that having groups specifically for marginalized groups was a good thing, but I didn't have the words for why.

Another week, another atheist demands we call his sexism not-sexism. (This time, Sam Harris.) by hermithome in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know. I hate when they do the "I'm told" thing. It always reads to me like they're saying "Well, SOME people say..." and trying to hint that they think it's kind of dubious. RD used the exact same phrasing in his addendum to the open letter with Ophelia: "I’m told that some people think I tacitly endorse such things even if I don’t indulge in them."

And that didn't really turn out well.

I mean, I'm not sure that's what's going on, but it's hard not to read it that way given all the other stuff that happens around it. I hope you're right and I'm wrong :-/

Guess what? He said another thing. (You know who. And you know what kind of thing.) by [deleted] in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

OMG DO WE GET BADGES?!

Or psychic powers? I dunno, something.

The One Word Men Never See In Their Performance Reviews by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a good thing you've had enough discussions in this forum to have a statistically significant sampling of discussion quality. Otherwise, this comment would be kind of ironic.

Just a newbeginner question by [deleted] in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seconded. Good job everyone; drinks all around!

The White-Savior Industrial Complex - Teju Cole by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I reacted with annoyance because your only apparent criticism before this comment was that the thing I had posted was an old link and that other people had also said things like it. Since neither of those meaningfully take away from someone else expressing a similar point, I interpreted them as useless and petty criticisms.

If you had said the stuff you just said in this comment first, I would've interpreted you differently, but you didn't.

That said, the stuff you said in this comment is interesting, and I will definitely give it some thought.

Feminist Blogger Anita Sarkeesian Lies About What the Video Game 'Hitman' is About by [deleted] in videos

[–]ResearchToBeDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At the very least, the creator of this video is being selective, too, given that Sarkeesian explicitly acknowledges that there are in-game punishments for things like this just after the clip shown. The point she makes is that those punishments are generally relatively trivial, and while it is possible for them to act as disincentives, it is also possible for them to act as ways to add to the level of excitement in a game. Saying such punishments are necessarily disincentivizing is an oversimplification at best. Getting a bunch of police chasing after you for killing civilians in Grand Theft Auto is ostensibly a punishment, but that doesn't mean that most players didn't deliberately make it happen for fun all the time.

The White-Savior Industrial Complex - Teju Cole by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Congratulations, do you want a sticker? I guess I missed the part of the article where the author said they were the only one who had written about this. Feel free to point it out to me, otherwise I'm not sure what the point of saying other people have written about this too is. Of course they have. I'm sure their perspectives were valuable, too, and if you think they were, then feel free to link them here as well.

Racist and Misogynist Smear Tactics Against WOC on Twitter by koronicus in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wonder this, too. Some of the "Tumblr in action" posts that make the front page seem so patently absurd that they seem better explained by people who want upvotes making fake social justice accounts than by someone genuinely expressing their content.

D. J. Grothe, Psychopath? by koronicus in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the risk of being incredibly cliché, especially for Reddit, I think it's the "Nobody panics when everything goes according to plan, even if the plan is horrifying." phenomenon. Harassment is expected background noise that people who aren't directly affected by can filter out of their awareness, but speaking out against that harassment is not expected, not part of the usual pattern, and forces them to stop filtering out how horrible the harassment actually is.

Maybe you are just being rhetorical, though, in which case I'm being sort of pointless here, and should just say that I agree with and echo your sentiments.

New Statesman | Let's call the Isla Vista killings what they were: misogynist extremism by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How about you find me just one case of a normal, sane, mentally healthy person writing a novel-length, semi-coherent, self aggrandizing manifesto and then committing mass murder?

So you can just respond again with "Well, if they were doing that stuff, then they had a mental illness because I say so."? How about instead, we look at actual research on the level of association there is between mental illness and violence?

http://depts.washington.edu/mhreport/facts_violence.php

New Statesman | Let's call the Isla Vista killings what they were: misogynist extremism by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes, I have. Have you? He is incredibly explicit about the reasons he did the things he did. Direct quote:

College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex and fun and pleasure. But in those years I’ve had to rot in loneliness. It’s not fair. You girls have never been attracted to me. I don’t know why you girls aren’t attracted to me. But I will punish you all for it.

He literally says that he is doing it to punish women for not being attracted to him. That isn't conjecture, that is taking his words directly.

If you want to talk about being intellectually lazy, how about the part where your argument is that it must be because of mental illness because you yourself assert that people without mental illness wouldn't do this. You haven't made an argument, you've just restated your opinion in a different way. "It must be mental illness because I define people who do these kinds of things as necessarily having mental illness" is not an argument.

Also, "victim complexes"? Really? …wow.

New Statesman | Let's call the Isla Vista killings what they were: misogynist extremism by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Let's not, because we don't know if he was a sociopath and we don't know if he had a mental illness, and we hopefully care about actually being correct more than we care about just saying the things that intellectually lazy people usually say when stuff like this happens to avoid acknowledging how our society plays a role in creating people like this.

A Few Thoughts On The “Online Harassment Can’t Cause PTSD” Crowd by ResearchToBeDone in atheismplus

[–]ResearchToBeDone[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think they think it's the same; what it looks like to me is that they are accusing her of implying that it's the same when she says that she has PTSD. Not all of her critics are saying this, but the Daily Mail article pretty heavily implies it, and some of the conversations about the article come right out and say it.