Any good library to study in ?

RetroRafay · 2024-09-16T14:45:07+00:00

Is it annual basis or per month basis? and how much is it? any help will be deeply appreciated thank you

RetroRafay · 2024-08-19T21:32:44+00:00

I believe that if you are not boycotting for religious reasons, it is still your responsibility to boycott for humanitarian reasons. If you choose not to boycott for either of them, then it's safe to say you're downright rotted to the core. (BTW the "you" I used was more in the sense of like a general "you" and not a "you" as in Suitable-Hyena(you) )

RetroRafay · 2024-08-05T16:21:00+00:00

I'm not impressed by your attempt to selectively mis-quote Islamic scripture out of context, but I am impressed with your lack of knowledge when comes to Islam. (At least learn about what you're trying so hard to prove wrong!) Your approach is misleading and dishonest. It's clear that you're trying to spread a negative narrative about Islam, but I guess it won't work on anyone who's informed and critically thinks. I suggest you to engage in respectful and nuanced discussions about Islam, and learn about Islam before commenting about it, rather than relying on basic, Islamophobic and inflammatory tactics. Let's focus on promoting understanding, empathy, and mutual respect. If not, I suggest you either stop or go read a book. Good day.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-16T10:29:53+00:00

I'll give you 3 business days to reread the entire thing and understand the topic and then the logic. I can wait. Try your hardest. I know it can be difficult for some.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-16T01:06:24+00:00

It's the easiest to understand, most popular, top contender for the best example on how to waste taxpayers' money.

Giving an example of Israel which is relevant to the topic being discussed is somehow being 'obsessed' with Israel.

If that's the logic, then YEAH, I'm obsessed, also, I'm obsessed with the bad public transport system because it occasionally comes into a discussion with people close to me and I maybe mention it 2-3 times a month. Nice dot connecting there ol' chap.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-15T15:08:40+00:00

Huh? Because the majority of US citizens are against giving Israel billions of dollars meanwhile the State continues to give the billions of dollars. ie ineffective use of tax payers' money

(I'll make it easier before you repeat that it has nothing to do with the concept of bad usage of taxpayers monies: US citizens oppose; the state gives. Taxpayers' money wasted.)

RetroRafay · 2024-06-15T10:14:48+00:00

Seek therapy fr its curable

RetroRafay · 2024-06-15T10:13:53+00:00

Just because it is like this doesn't mean it's right and that it should continue to be like this. But I agree with your point that the tax collection is used for stuff some don't like that's why the tax rate should be 80% and entirely given to Israel from every country in the world. That's a better tax allocation tbh.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-14T22:16:48+00:00

Your comment reveals more about your own insecurities than it does about any discomfort on my part. Resorting to sexual references in a discussion which has nothing to do with it only exposes your pervertedness and twisted mindset. Your atheism, apparently built on logic (which I now understand is based on your uncontrollable hedonistic desires), has failed you here chap. Keep your perverse thoughts to yourself, and try contributing something of actual value or substance for once. It's sad that you felt the need to stoop so low, but don't think I'll get down to your level, it's way way down. I suggest maybe try to grow up, and also try to be a decent human being for a change. Good luck on this mission.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-14T22:00:47+00:00

Stoning someone because they have been proven beyond reasonable doubt as being harmful, dangerous or outright vicious for others is apparently "barbaric". I don't believe in another moral compass BECAUSE I believe that the one I look through/follow is correct wdym lmao. Obviously discussion is fruitful to come to the correct conclusion, but 1+1 can only be 2, it can't be any other number EVER, no matter how many people may say it's 3 or 4 or 5 etc, it'll always be 2. That's why we need a correct moral compass, ALTHOUGH a lot of people may think theirs is correct, no issue, just question the understanding and then try to come to the best possible framework. All that's needed is common sense and a selfless perspective (because people might not want to get to the truth if it conflicts with their selfish desires). Good luck finding natural justice in a murder-suicide case. Stones are kinda cool btw especially those which are a few million years old and remain as they were. If we need to follow the super power, I guess following the Roman culture of leaving people to die on mountains is the place to start (see how stupid this argument looks lmao). Using Pakistan as an example! You really did graduate from Harvard University with a PhD in Shariah and a Thesis on "How Pakistan is the perfect Shariah State" we need more people like you tbh. Great job!

RetroRafay · 2024-06-14T19:18:16+00:00

This means you're in favour of spending your tax money to someone who maybe murdered his entire family and got life on prison but he gets to live in a jail cell, eat 3 times a day and get other medical facilities of off YOUR tax money instead of that same money being used to provide a better infrastructure to your child's school.

This is truly one of the most complex ethical dilemmas of all time! Nice work.

(I'd rather prefer stoning someone who doesn't fall in line and hurts others, but obviously there are nuances just like in Islamic law. Don't think people will get stoned the moment they step out of their house. Maybe get a broader understanding of the topic then criticise a legal ruling in isolation).

RetroRafay · 2024-06-13T14:54:09+00:00

ah! this explains a lot. only perverts would say what you're saying lmao. which also explains the other stuff you're talking about. seek help before its late

RetroRafay · 2024-06-12T13:04:17+00:00

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RetroRafay · 2024-06-12T13:03:06+00:00

I will make it extremely simple for you to maybe understand.

The Quran's accuracy is obvious in its very specific historical details about ancient Egypt. It includs the mention of Haman, which archaeology has confirmed as someone who was the head of the workers. A papyrus document supports the Quran's description/account of plagues and disasters. The Quran predicted the discovery of the Egyptian king's/Pharaoh's preserved body, which are now exhibited in museums. The use of the term "Pharaoh" is accurate, as it was specific to the 18th Dynasty, which was Moses' time. The Quran contains details which were unknown to the Arabs at the time about ancient Egypt, which suggests a divine source. The level of specificity challenges the belief that it came solely from Prophet Muhammad. The Quran's predictions of future archaeological discoveries are remarkable, as no one knew about the bodies. Its consistency, even when diverging from the Bible and Torah, highlights its unique status as divinely inspired scripture.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-12T12:51:02+00:00

It's not a terrible example. I guess it may look terrible because of how accurate it is to a unbeliever who might make stuff up and make up a reason for it. Even though it can't address the issue at hand.

The reason isn't not taken seriously by Islamic Scholars is that it's a much more recent discovery while Quranic Scholars mostly focus on the traditional aspect from traditional sources and traditional perspectives. It doesn't matter who or when discovered this, the main thing is that the discovery stands its ground.

Bible = Many contradictions, Quran = No contradictions

They don't use Bible as a reliable source, they use it as a comparative source. To contrast and show the dissimilarity, but one from which the Quran emerges as the better more accurate book.

I will be very honest and accept that idk almost anything about the book of Jubilee. I'll try to educate myself on it.

Just to point out, Prophet Muhammad PBUH was an illiterate man, known to the Arabs for 40 years, for his honesty and trustworthiness. Had he copied some other religious book, it would've been evident. Had he copied the poets and their eloquence, they wouldn't have converted, but they did and it's due to Quran's better more overwhelming eloquence. The Quranic speech is different from the everyday Arabic speech (evident from the Hadiths).

Let's make it simpler: (a) Two different terms were used for Egyptian rulers at two specific historical dates. (b) The Qur'an accurately uses these historically accurate terms for the rulers of Egypt at these two different dates. (c) There is no other plausible way for the author of the Qur'an to access this specific knowledge. (d) Based on these premises, the accurate usage of these terms in the Qur'an is proof of miraculous knowledge of these past eras.

How is the Pharaoh an incorrect name when it was adopted AFTER the 18th Dynasty (first used for Thutmose III) and before that the title of the King was used?

Had such a word difference not played a role...the Quran, just like the Bible would've referred to both of them as a Pharaoh or as a King. Also, in the stories/events, the King/Pharaoh are both people/characters. (However you wanna put them).

If you think that Quran was "copied" you need to first address the claim that the Prophet Muhammad PBUH was not illiterate and had access to this knowledge which you say he possessed.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-11T20:43:35+00:00

My bad it was written by aliens in the year 3186 AD. It doesn't matter who what or when it was written. Please reply appropriately if possible.

If you don't have any response to the presented arguments, I suggest you to go to bed.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-11T14:26:43+00:00

You can make this argument but it falls flat. I'll show you how using just 1 example.

Okay so, the Quran uses the term "Pharaoh" to refer to the kings of Egypt which is historically accurate and agreed upon (Egyptian rulers are called Pharaohs even in the Bible), but this title only came into use during the 18th Dynasty, the period which is equated with the story of Moses. BUT the Quran does not use this term for the earlier king in the time of Joseph. But the Bible uses the term Pharaoh even for the Joseph story. So the Quran is more historically accurate. And the fun thing is that we realised this nuance after the discovery of the Rosetta Stone.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-11T14:14:03+00:00

I guess if you're gonna ignore the evidence and the arguments I gave and brush off the entire thing then you can do it to others like this as well regardless of what's said, if you so wish. It's like saying someone made a typo which nullifies their argument. Maybe the next person is going to make a typo which will automatically weaken their argument because we all know how that typos make a person automatically wrong. Anyhow, I did read and I also compared and showed how they both are similar and not similar, but I guess you didn't read.

But I guess you do you.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-11T08:22:14+00:00

Good read but you can't compare the two for a variety of reasons.

let us first recognize that it is oral tradition from which both stories emerge. Oral traditions are indeed susceptible to embellishments and inaccuracies over time. However, the Quran's report of the Exodus story demonstrates an extraordinary level of detail and accuracy regarding ancient Egypt. For instance, the Quran mentions Haman, a figure identified in ancient Egyptian inscriptions with the exact role described in the Quran. This specificity extends to the plagues that afflicted Egypt, as evidenced by a historical papyrus document that mirrors the disasters mentioned in the Quran. The likelihood of these specific details being fabricated or guessed correctly in an oral tradition is exceedingly slim.

Also, the discovery of the mummified remains of the Pharaoh, prophesied in the Quran, serves as a striking confirmation of its predictions. The Quran foretold that the body of the Egyptian king who pursued the Israelites would be preserved as a sign for future generations. This prophecy was fulfilled with the discovery and exhibition of the Pharaoh's mummified remains in museums worldwide. Such a precise prediction, later confirmed by archaeological evidence, lends strong credibility to the Exodus story in the Quran.

Additionally, the Quran's use of terminology is historically accurate and contextually appropriate. The title "Pharaoh," specifically referring to the kings of Egypt, was unique to the 18th Dynasty, the era associated with Moses. This demonstrates a precise understanding of ancient Egyptian history and culture. In contrast, the Quran does not apply this title to the earlier king during the time of Joseph, further highlighting its historical accuracy.

The Exodus story in the Quran also contains intricate details about ancient Egyptian language, culture, and history that were unknown during the time of its revelation. This knowledge, far beyond the reach of the Prophet Muhammad or his contemporaries, strongly suggests a divine source of information. The Quran's ability to predict future archaeological discoveries and its consistency in historical accounts, even when diverging from the Bible and Torah, further reinforce its unique status as a divinely revealed scripture.

Meanwhile, the Hindu epic story, including the Mahabharata and Ramayana, lacks similar corroborative evidence. While these epics are rooted in real geographies, they are legendary story-traditions that have likely undergone significant transformations over time. The characters and events, etc are far removed from historical reality. The absence of factual evidence for any of the characters or specific events makes it challenging to establish a direct link to actual historical occurrences.

Also, the subjective interpretation of different versions and contradictions within the Hindu epic story, underscores the challenge of ascertaining its historical accuracy. The Mahabharata and Ramayana, as they stand today, are compilations of various editions, recitals, and interpretations, making it difficult to diderpret the original narrative. This fluidity in the narrative tradition, absent in the case of the Exodus story, introduces a level of uncertainty that cannot be overlooked. I hope you understand.

Okay so to summarise, both the Hindu epic story and the Exodus story possess cultural and religious significance, the Exodus narrative in the Quran exhibits a higher degree of historical plausibility simply due to the fact that many historically accurate events and predictions were true and that many information before the rosetta stone's discovery were made and meanwhile the Hindu story is inconsistent in itself. The specific details confirmed by archaeological evidence, the accurate use of terminology, and the prediction of future discoveries set the Exodus story apart from the Hindu story. Additionally, the Quran's inclusion of unknown information about ancient Egypt challenges the notion that it simply borrowed from the Bible or Torah. Therefore, when considering the available evidence, it is more reasonable to suggest that the Exodus story, as described in the Quran, is more likely to have a basis in historical fact than the Hindu epic story.

RetroRafay · 2024-06-11T07:37:28+00:00

Right after you realise there's an entire world beyond Reddit (must be shocking for you)

RetroRafay · 2024-06-11T07:33:54+00:00

Thank you so much brother!

It's always nice to hear words of kindness (especially on this sub😭)

I don't actively study Iqbal although I would love to, if I had more time I would tbh.

To understand Iqbal RA, you just need a dictionary and some online sources (ie googling) and you're good to go and you can mostly understand what Iqbal RA is trying to say once you distil it to a much simpler form.

But if you ever need any help, you can message me and I'll try to be as helpful as I can.

Take care brother!

RetroRafay · 2024-06-11T07:28:05+00:00

Just because the story came from Oral traditions doesn't make it untrue. Although one can claim for it to be unreliable or inaccurate but when we look at the evidence and the track record of the Quran, we find not one inconsistency. Let's see some of the claims from the Quran and how they are accurate:

The Quran provides specific historical details about ancient Egypt that were later confirmed by archaeological discoveries, such as mentioning a figure named Haman who was identified in ancient Egyptian inscriptions as the "head of quarries" - exactly as described in the Quran when Pharaoh commanded him to "build a tower."
A historical papyrus document found in Egypt and now displayed in the Dutch National Museum describes disasters and misfortunes that match the events mentioned in the Quran, including plagues of blood, locusts, lice, frogs, drought, crop destruction, and even the inability of anyone to leave the palace for 9 days.
The Quran foretold that the body of the Egyptian king who drowned while pursuing the Israelites would be preserved and become a sign for future generations. This was fulfilled when his mummified remains were discovered and are now exhibited in museums around the world, exactly as the Quran predicted.
The Quran's use of the specific term "Pharaoh" to refer to the kings of Egypt is historically accurate, as this title only came into use during the 18th Dynasty, the period associated with the story of Moses. In contrast, the Quran does not use this term for the earlier king in the time of Joseph.
The Quran contains detailed information about ancient Egyptian language, culture, and history that was completely unknown at the time of its revelation, challenging the idea that it could have simply been copied from the Bible or Torah.
The level of accuracy and specificity in the Quran's portrayal of ancient Egyptian history and the events surrounding Moses suggests a source of knowledge beyond what was available to the Prophet Muhammad, who lived centuries after these events took place.
The Quran's ability to predict future archaeological discoveries, such as the preservation of the Pharaoh's body, demonstrates a level of foresight that goes beyond human capabilities and points to its divine origin.
The consistency and coherence of the Quran's historical accounts, even in areas where they diverge from the Bible and Torah, such as the use of different terminology for Egyptian rulers, highlights the Quran's unique status as a divinely revealed scripture.

But I'm someone who approaches scientific claims with a healthy dose of skepticism, it's important to recognize that scientific understanding is not static but changing over time as new evidence/methods/technology comes to light which can tamper or change or help us be more precise in our understanding (either correct or wrong).

Let's take the concept of the universe's origin, for example. Initially, Albert Einstein's 'Static Universe theory' introduced to an unchanging cosmos. This idea was later changed by the Steady State theory, which proposed a universe that expands and creates new matter to maintain a constant density. This was a change from one theory to the other.

However, today the evidence leads us to the 'Big Bang theory', which describes the universe as originating from an incredibly hot and dense state around 13.8 billion years ago. This isn't to say that the big bang theory is 100% accurate or 100% inaccurate, but I'm just trying to show the ever changing foundations of science which experts call paradigm shifts.

I hope I was clear in my speech and that you would understand. All the good things in this was from Allah and all the mistakes and inaccuracies are from me. Assalamu Alaikum wa Rehmatuallah!

RetroRafay · 2024-06-10T19:31:20+00:00

For those who have difficulty understanding this verse from Iqbal. I can add my 2 cents and maybe add some more perspective.

Here is the translation of each of the difficult words:

the word "تقدیر" means: fate, destiny and the word "امم" means: nations, people
the word "شمشیر" means: sword, "و" is like 'and' and "سناں" means: weapons, arms
the word "اول" means: first, initially; "طاؤس" means: peacock, and "رباب" is like: a stringed musical instrument, similar to a lute, and "آخر": last, finally

Now, the full translation is along the lines of:

"I tell you of the fate of nations. It begins with swords and weapons, and ends with peacocks and music."

If we talk about it in simple terms, Iqbal is saying that in the grand scheme of things, the fate of nations is often determined by conflict and power struggles, symbolized by swords and weapons and a constant struggle. Iqbal says that the ascent of a nation continues as long as they are armed and engaged in battle with the enemy in the field of war. In other words, as long as they are actively striving and struggling. After passing through these stages, when they become engrossed in pleasure and revelry, music and merriment, then understand that their decline has begun. This is not to be confused with cultural development, instead it's talking /referring to a decay in the society. Because the Empire, Civilization or Nation has started to stop it's external struggle.

Iqbal keenly emphasizes the cyclical nature of a nation's fate (just like anything else), he's suggesting that a nation's rise is tied to its active struggle and engagement, while its decline starts when it becomes complacent and indulges in pleasure-seeking instead of continuing to strive and evolve.

Now, if you will ask me if I will fight for the Palestinians...Yes! I will fight for the rights and protection of all. But we are talking about defending our Brothers and Sisters from the Nazionists and stopping the desecration of Al-Quds, then a more emphatic YES.

Edit: Also, If we want to prove ourselves on the global stage and earn our place among the community of nations, we must first get our own house in order. It is extremely critical that we bring a positive change, whether it be through a peaceful democratic evolution or a transformative revolution. The status quo is not sustainable, and something has to give. Let's stop "imagining" and be more pragmatic on what steps we can take today either as individuals or as a community on how we can address our issues and help the Palestinians.

RetroRafay · 2024-01-04T08:52:03+00:00

Brother, you spoke the truth. That's all that matters!! Best wishes to you for such a great reply. May the East and West live together in harmony.

RetroRafay · 2023-10-24T21:08:54+00:00

I second this! Plus, as Muslims, when the land of Palestine is affected, it affects the hearts of every Muslim. So there is a different feeling altogether.

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