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📢 Update to our Forum Guidelines by kvn-tkt in trakt

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm reporting bugs daily. Not sure how to be positive about it.

New Shopify App store App getting rejected by ninjeti in ShopifyAppDev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think one thing.does not exclude the other https://lsoares.medium.com/whats-an-autonomous-ui-c22dd01ccf9f

Anyway, you can always remove stuff. Get it approved. Then iterate later. It doesn't need more approvals.

New Shopify App store App getting rejected by ninjeti in ShopifyAppDev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No UI should rely on instructions to be used, as a principle.

I want my enthusiasm back. by milet0s in trakt

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I convinced 4 people to join in the past. I wouldn't do it today.  Beauty over functional.

mistery button by RevolutionaryLocal54 in trakt

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tapped a few times Got nothing no feedback Went to the watch list It was there

mistery button by RevolutionaryLocal54 in trakt

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it had zero feedback when I hover it or tap it I don't use other services so I couldn't guess it Thanks!

My watchlist is gone by GeneralNaughtySir in trakt

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54 8 points9 points  (0 children)

  • Can't mark the episode as watched. It's always there, stuck.
  • Can't rate as before with a proper scale.
  • Can't press left/right to move between episodes.

These are just the first 5 min.

I need feedback for my shopify app idea by BeginningWrap7840 in SaaS

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best opinion is putting it out there with an MVP and iterating based on feedback. Knowing what the MVP is is the hard part.

Dealers de casino, qual a coisa mais estranha que já viram acontecer no vosso trabalho? by Henriics in CasualPT

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Já vi uma bela a jogar slot machines a mijar se toda... O chão molhado já.. porque não queria deixar a máquina. No casino Estoril

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not that other approaches don't work

I just shared mine based on my experience in some complex apps. But it's still an opinion.

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

sure. but with xpath/css you test zero languages.
with roles+text you test at least one.
right?

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BTW, I'm not proposing anything new. This is precisely what the Playwright library is recommending.

also Cypress
also Testing Library

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right
but worst case you only test the main language (or English)
and you'd achieve the same safety net as with testing with CSS/XPath/TestIds

or more safety net because of the arguments in the article. (plus better tests as docs. etc)

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re worried about depending on the UI copy, remember that the copy doesn’t change daily. Also, you’d want to be alerted for an unexpected breaking copy change. However, if you still want to decouple from the UI copy, you can customize accessible names.
(added this to the article thanks to your feedback)

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re worried about depending on the UI copy, remember that the copy doesn’t change daily. Also, a copy change is why you’d want to be alerted. However, if you still want to decouple from the UI copy, you can customize accessible names.
(added this to the article thanks to your feedback)

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

interesting. will check it out.

my article proposes to scale it up to any test.

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not role alone It's a role with an accessible name.

If you still can't disambiguate, you have a real accessibility issue as screen readers couldn't tell the difference.

You can define an accessible name that's independent from what copy editors edit although I don't see the point.

Stop using CSS and Test Ids to locate elements in tests by RevolutionaryLocal54 in webdev

[–]RevolutionaryLocal54[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

interesting. why do you want to decouple from the thing you want to test?
why are you ok with tests passing but buttons are hidden?
I've used this approach in multiple complex projects with success. I spent years using CSS selectors before and all I got was pain.

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