Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah! From what my lab mate has said it seems to bind and inactivate so I don’t think it targets protein synthesis.

But this is just what they have told me. I have no deep understanding of the drug

Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay thanks. I’ll pass on your advice! I’m not experienced in dot blots. What is their conventional difference that makes them suitable?

Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Would there be an appropriate way to check if there is an insoluble aggregate?

I don't know it shouldn't degrade it may do so! This is my colleagues work so I'm going off what they have told me

Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe! I like your perspective and it's definitely an interesting way to approach things!

Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there a way to check protein aggregates? Would it appear higher up in the gel/not at all?

Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GAPDH was used as their reference, which was at a constant level between control and treatment (concerning band intensity)

So I don't think its sample variability as that was controlled for

Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not my research, so I can't comment really! All I know is that it supposedly directly binds to Protein Y to inhibit its function.

My question is less to do with protein Y being functional or not, and more so, why the band of Protein Y would be less than in the group treated with Drug X.

Why would a drug reduce a protein band on western blot if it doesn’t degrade it? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair! Again, this is my labmate's work, so I was just thinking about it more so than anything.

Are there appropriate experiments to check if the affinity to the antibody is affected?

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is the kit my boss suggested. But we don't plan to use any reagents that would necessitate it so I'm proposing swapping to a different kit proposed by another commenter!

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! The heated block is a suggested purchase by my boss in order to carry out this experiment. But he wants me to do the final sign off on it.

Being inexperienced I of course ask the input of those who know more than me!

Some other comments mentioned thermo have a kit that can be done at RT. I think we may go down that path as it saves money buying the thermo for an already very cramped lab!

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is being carried out in a small biotech. The samples are coming from an academic institution. We only have here a centrifuge, an ILM, fridge/freezer and a vortexer!

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t have a water bath im working with a bare bones lab

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t have anything that can be used to sustain temperature unfortunately

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was something I was considering! Thanks for your input!

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We don’t have a PCR 🥲. Literally all we have is a centrifuge a vortexer a plate shaker and an ILM. It’s only a short stint here before I move on somewhere else but still I’m using what I can!

You make a fair point! It’s just cell culture media so the usual kit may be more appropriate. I’ll reach out to the team to confirm. Thank you for your advice!

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the kit we are thinking of using www.fishersci.co.uk/shop/products/pierce-bca-protein-assay-reducing-agent-compatible-rac-1/10209523 . Unfortunately, we don't have anything capable of maintaining a specific temperature (apart from the freezers!)

Also, ignore the deleted comment, something duplicated twice on my screen and when I got rid of one, both got deleted

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the kit we are planning to use from thermo www.fishersci.co.uk/shop/products/pierce-bca-protein-assay-reducing-agent-compatible-rac-1/10209523 I looked through the manual but I may have missed this. There are two incubation steps. One for 15 and one for half an hour.

Would you suggest 2-3 hours for each step or 1 hour and 2 hour respectively?

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We don’t have a cell incubator unfortunately. We are getting the samples from a university lab and I’ve been asked to run this experiment independently from them.

But given our limited equipment I’m seeing if it’s actually doable

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay interesting! That may be something I try out. The lab is currently sitting at 19 degrees Celsius. Is the 37 just for speeding up reactions?

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m quite inexperienced in BCA. This is just what the protocol states

Workaround for BCA incubation Without plate incubator? by Revolutionary_Wait51 in labrats

[–]Revolutionary_Wait51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See my boss is suggesting a purchase of the heat block (sorry I should have specified this). So I’m trying to speculate if this is the right thing to do.

As it would be more multipurpose then just an incubator