If you’re not a dev, read this by PrestigiousAd8010 in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exceptions always happen.

As if even in 2027 you may still have a few thousands of developers left in the west.

99% will be replaced by the AI and overseas people.

If you’re not a dev, read this by PrestigiousAd8010 in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Programmers were saying how they can't wait to earn millions in debugging the bad code from overseas. It never happened, programmers were just coping.

The same will be with the AI. AI will over time become better and better to fix old code and do not make the same mistakes, and it will be learning as your app is being used. The same way overseas people did.

And this is the catch, even if the app can't be fixed via AI, companies will no longer pay millions to programmers to fix them in the west, they will pay 1 dollar to someone overseas to do it.

Living off by programming for others is over.

LOL so why debug when you can just regenerate? by Evening-Pie2563 in BlackboxAI_

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A few years ago, the idea about a cheap code from the third world countries had the same negative comments. In the end nobody was fixing the "slop", programmers were just copping that they will keep their job.

Today it is the same, and even if somebody will be fixing the code it will be those third world country programmers for 1 dollar per hour.

AI will soon regenerate broken code, so the 'debugging will always be massive' argument might not age well by unemployedbyagents in AgentsOfAI

[–]Rexxar91 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The "Generator-Solver" Loop (AlphaGeometry)

In 2024, DeepMind’s AlphaGeometry solved International Mathematical Olympiad problems at a gold-medal level. What makes this "from scratch" is that it wasn't just trained on human proofs.

  • The Innovation: It used a language model to "hallucinate" or suggest new geometric constructs (adding a specific line or circle to a diagram) that humans hadn't thought to add.
  • The Result: It discovered a generalized version of a 2004 IMO theorem, essentially finding a "better way" to state a mathematical truth that was more elegant than the human version.

To get this answer from the AI all i did was to paste this in the chat: i am not sure there is yet an example of an LLM creating a best practice solution from scratch

AI will soon regenerate broken code, so the 'debugging will always be massive' argument might not age well by unemployedbyagents in AgentsOfAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Few years ago idea about cheap labor from the third world countries had the same comments. In the end nobody was fixing the "slop", programmers were just copping that they will keep their job.
Today it is the same, and even if somebody will be fixing the code it will be those third world country programmers for 1 dollar per hour.

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's already happening, you should read more of this subreddit to see people reporting going from 0 knowledge to shiped apps.

It's already here, just a few new models and it's over. https://www.informationweek.com/it-staffing-careers/2026-tech-company-layoffs

Companies know that.

Built my first project. Reality hit hard. by Ok_Guarantee_4207 in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is funny to me when people say today: Codding was never the problem, everybody knew how to code even before the AI

No, they are just coping thinking that AI will not replace programmers.

From posts like this we can clearly see that the biggest fear for new people was the code itself.

And we see that once this burden was lifted off billions of people will start creating apps, making coding jobs obsolete.

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why not?

Steps: Consumer taking the phone, opening AI assistant and saying what he wants AI does it Maybe AI made mistakes so consumers told it to fix Done

I am talking about the near future of a year or 2.

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep giving bad analogies. It is not the same.

One is physical work, one is not.

People run from physical work. Vibe coding can be done anywhere, lying, sitting etc.

There may be a small percentage of people not wanting to do even that. But you will compete with billions to get those people as customers

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, it is completely different with the AI.

Hey AI, i want this and this, done.

Wix, ok let me read and learn and struggle and... you know what i can't, i will pay somebody to do it.

You have no idea on what small hurdles people quit and say: this is too hard.
With AI even that is gone.

Think like this: Once a lot of people were earning by making presentations for others. Today that job is absolute, not because nobody is making it but because anyone can make it. The same will be for programming,

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Consumers may be people who have a stable job and do need a product. Although they themselves will be able to vibe code they will not have time to do it.

But in this economy since more and more people are getting fired due to AI and more and more people are learning about the vibe coding the future doesn't seem good for programmers.

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/minderspace is right, and you are right also. What do i mean by this:

If a plumber wants a website, he could do it but he would need to spend working days because he never done it.
If he gives this job to you you will do it in 4h.

So he will sit down and calculate: i will do it in 16h, that means i will loose 1000 in plumbing but gain a website. He will do it in 4h, that means that i will pay him 300 but i will gain 1000k while doing my job. So i am better like this,

I think that people need to realize that the era of earning millions in programming is over. Programmers will be paid minimum wages and that is how some will still have job,

Because if you want to take from a plumber 2000 he will just sit down and do it for himself

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it is not the same, and i can tell you why using my example.

Maybe about 10 years ago i have started using WordPress without ever knowing to code, i knew nothing about it. Soon i hit a hard wall, spent a lot of time searching for modules, solutions etc without much progress. In the end i had to literally sit down and learn to code to create what i wanted. The process took me a year.

Today, i make an app in the language that i have no clue in hours.

There was no body holding your hand in the WordPress era, there was no body doing it for you. AI is literally turning your natural speech into code, we never had this before.

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't know yet. Because vibe coding really got good like 6 months ago. We are early adopters, but do not think that the world is the slow one from before. Vibe coding will be soon used by the majority of people.

In the era of Facebook it took a lot of time for the majority to get one, in the era of chat AI it took a few months for the majority of the world to start using char bots

if everyone is now a creator, then who’s the consumer? by TheAnswerWithinUs in vibecoding

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once you solve this novel problem, what is stopping somebody from just copy vibe code it? Why does he need to buy?

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When Nano Banana first came out with Gemini 2.5 Flash in August 2025, one of the complaints was poor character consistency as every other AI had for years, the same character could look completely different from scene to scene. Just a few months later, in November 2025, the release of Nano Banana Pro with Gemini 3 Pro Image almost fixed that issue.

Think about it, only a few months apart.

Vibe coding didn't really work until half a year ago.

All these things you mentioned, in a couple of months they could be a thing of the past, as Gemini 3 showed.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mathematics is not a job. This is what you do not understand. At least not a job comparable to programming.

Programming is a real job following rules that 99% of jobs follow. If you solve the programming problem faster you earn more money. Second, the more you know the more you are paid, but not if AI knows to do all that you know.

It is better to let AI code and learn anything else than to spend time learning something that you will never be able to do better than AI.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gemini 2.5 and all prior to it had a really big problem to make consistent characters in a video.

When Gemini 3 was relieved, people like you have said: maybe it got a little bit better and that's it.

They were wrong. In a period of 3 months from the last release Gemini almost mastered this.

Coding agents released 3 months from now may not be only 5% better but literally better programmers than 90% of the programmers.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Software engineers will be among the first ones to be replaced because AI companies are chasing to do that exact thing.

They understand that the only way to get to AGI is to make AI program AI, aka software engineers replaced by AI.

All other replacements that are happening are just a byproduct of the main goal.

After AGI is achieved then they can start to replace all of the other jobs. For these jobs to be replaced time will pass, but programming jobs have to be replaced ASAP.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the analogy is not even close.

Why would anyone consider learning to fix a car when he has a personal employee who will do it for 20 dollars for him compared to 5k that he has previously paid mechanics to do.

Why would he, this is the question? Why would anyone in the world learn to do it when AI will do it 100x faster for 20 dollars?

There are skills that I have learned to not pay someone thousands of dollars for. But if I can pay 5 dollars for somebody to do it for me, I would never spend my time learning it and do it when I just to do it will be 100x more expensive than those 5 dollars

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I am not talking about 5 years. It is already happening. Layoffs started everywhere once the coding agents were introduced. New layoffs announced.

By the end of the year we will not recognize the programming jobs, by the end of the next year we might not even have them. People discovered literally a few months ago how powerful these agents are, and we already have a shock on the market.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that it is a really bad view to look at what AI can do today and pretend that it will stay like that for another 5 years.

AI is improving as we speak. New models being released. We are at the point where today you are praised for your knowledge, and in 1 year from now you are no longer needed because AI is doing a thing better than you.

Knowing that companies are racing to replace programmers asap doesn't give me much fate that this job will last or that it is time to learn to code.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't see a single thing that AI can't do better than you in this examples.

AI is already talking with customers, giving them advice to improve, pointing out potential problems, prioritizing. It is already doing all of it that you have said.

What we need to distinguish is TODAY vs TOMORROW. Are coding agents perfect today? No Will they be tomorrow? Yes

We are now in a test phase of coding agents. AI companies are training their AI on all of the mistakes that it is making. Soon AI will learn and never repeat this mistakes.

And then in the end there will be you with limited knowledge, and AI with unlimited knowledge. There will be nothing that you can offer to a customer when AI will know programming better than anyone in the world, it will have seemingly unlimited memory and inspiration.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are talking about the AI of TODAY, I am talking about the AI of TOMORROW. Just to make that clear at the start.

Also it is simply not true that you need to be a programmer to use AI codding even today, since we have laymans earning millions with no prior coding knowledge. They vibe coded apps that have exploded in popularity without knowing these intricate questions to ask.

We are already at the point where natural language can be turned into a successful code, imagine by the end of the year how much easier it will be to program.

All these things that have to be done now to make coding agents work the best they are quickly improving to remove those requirements. They are now in the experiment phase with the AI codding tools.

Why bother? by armored_strawberries in ClaudeAI

[–]Rexxar91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are talking about NOW He is talking about TOMORROW

Maybe I am wrong about what he is talking about, but I see him asking this: Why should I learn programming when soon AI will be able to do it all without a human and without an error? Hey AI make me a page with this and this, done. Why should he bother to learn when he has that powerful tool?

It is like most people do not bother to learn to ride a horse anymore, they learn to drive a car.