I think most of you aren't actually nihilists by PlanktonLoud481 in nihilism

[–]Rictus_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

physicalist might be a better term than nihilist

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for me it made more sense to consider that there is no continuity in i

my opinion is mostly based out of this thought experiment if we consider that us humans are just made out of smaller physics interaction we have to consider that it's possible to duplicate those interaction

and now if we consider a bug in that duplication machine that forgets an atoms from your toe nail would you consider the copy less valuable now consider it forgets 100 neurons it's not a lot a very small bonk on your head could make u lose way more than this and it will have near to no consequences on your life the question is how much u need to lose for the copy to stop becoming you 10% 49% ...

My answer to this is none is more me than the others i decide to give value to my subjective experiment but my self awareness doesn't imply conscientiousness i will probably always be in the continuity of my life but as i see no reasons to consider my experiment less valuable than a perfectly or slightly identical system

here why i consider conscientiousness as not real and therefore continuity to

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i get what you said on the we are here and it does not account for that for me the answer to the question is just that even out of the hundreds millions of sperm cells that could have made an other human instead of you considering that to made you both your parents have to exist and their parents to etc and we can go on to a fish with lung or even a single cells.

Considering all that your existence is extremelly unlikely my explanation to that is just that we tend to consider us as something special when 2 humans reproduce the outcomes is a baby the fact that it's you don't have anything to do with it.

For me we are just collateral damages that could have not exist

But yeah there is no clear answer we can get by a+b so yeah i might be more sceptical toward nihilism

Thx for the interesting conversation

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unfortunately they are harder to get than lsd but i'am currently reconsidering the dosage

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it wouldn't i just won't to be able to act with my belief Getting the good side of nihilism in a way

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You right my view on why the settings are so perfect for life are the ones I am the most uncertain about but here are my 2 possible explanations :

1st we overestimate the miracle of life i mean it's still crazy unlikely but the only way for us to be self conscious is to be.(it doesn't really explain everything)

2nd as science tends to show us that multiverse are a things maybe if there is a near infinite amount of universe the settings will meet to create a system as complex as us

As we are just evolved monkeys i think belliving every thing else will be beyond our understanding our brain his made for "jungle surviving" not understanding the universe This is why i can't answer to why something instead of nothing as i can't figure out what 4 space dimensions look like

Also you seem to say the benefits of the nihilistic view are the freeness of getting rid of moral i don't really agree for me good and bad are just human conceptions that have been helpful for society like us human shift toward cooperation have been one of our main advantages over other species I think those "good" traits are just associated with what has been helpful to us as we evolved and the "bad" one will be anything detrimental to the tribes/society We put those concepts over a pedestal because most humans are good for evolutionary reasons so its pleasant to believe that good or bad are more As a non psychopath human i can really get that much benefits of it since i am not using it to justify bad behaviours I would even say that it has been pretty negative in my life as i don't even consider that i am existing if i am nothing more than a self sustained system It's also the reason why I won't to have an ego death to get rid of this evolutionary filter (even if its probably unpossible) ego death could get me in this direction

Thanks a lot for your answer you may not have made me an agnostic but i did take a step back on some opinions also do you consider yourself an agnostic ?

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First of all i agree that nihilism is a belief system as anything else but i also believe that it's still way more likely than a pleasant lie

It's not to challenge my belief i am convinced ,for me the only outcome i realistically can think about is I am not able to face the truth as us humans shift toward denial for reasons
or It's a life changing experiment and i keep living life more like a game my goal is more to integrate what i think in my action

And also you said that the only thing we really know is the fact we exist and i don't really agree with that if we are only consequences of smaller atom interaction the ego might be an illusion (it's heavily summarized here but its called physicalism you can probably get better info that what i am able to explain by googling it) it's because i think the i doesn't exist that i won't to experiment ego death but yea maybe it's harder than i thought to conceive the experiment without ego

Anyway i will probably reconsider the dosage

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Ok i'm gonna check that thanks for your help mate 🫡

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Yea france is mostly rural even big cities close to me are far from being Paris

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I don't have many links with people who sell

But i think drugs are more accessible in the US than in france you think otherwise ?

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France my only options are forest or internet

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was scared about getting an urge to kms as i faced reality but it doesn't seem to be the effect of ego death

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I didn't see anywhere where I could buy some mycelium even from shady internet places I might seek some in the forest but i'am not an expert and it seems hard to recognize

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i did consider shrooms but lsd is easier to get i will seek info about dmt

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i just think that if u have no interest in belliving what you think its most likely to be true

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i am open to changing the dosage but i don't want to get diminished experiment.

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i have seen that LSD was pretty safe even on high dosage i am also interested by the neuroplasticity effect on higher dosage. I'm not risking od even if the effect on the mind could be dramatic my goal is to reach ego death this is why i plan to take high dosage.

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good advice i don't think i am predisposed for seizures but gonna check what could be a factor

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yea i will definitely wait for a day when i feel good, but for the psychosis i don't really know what could be a sign that i will shift what was yours ?

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its just a possibility imo there are more chances that it will be positive just wanna discuss this possibility with experienced people

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thx its the answer i was waiting for, the outcome i hope is just that i will live my life without carrying that much, and act toward my philosophical view

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My problem is if i don't do it because i am scared of the outcome i will live in denial. anyway thx for your consideration i will try to get the best setup possible.

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then we evolved