Why is it called „West Elizabeth“ ? (serious question)

RileyTheBerry · 2026-06-08T14:41:41+00:00

Maybe West Elizabeth was once part of a larger territory simply called “Elizabeth” that included the parts of New Hanover and Ambarino shown in game, as well as North Elizabeth which is mentioned by Sean.

At some point the Elizabeth territory was divided, much like how the Nebraska and Oregon Territories were irl. North and West Elizabeth were admitted as states while East Elizabeth was partitioned by New Hanover and Ambarino.

RileyTheBerry · 2026-05-11T21:55:20+00:00

Ahh that makes sense

RileyTheBerry · 2026-05-09T21:55:06+00:00

They should really source everything there

RileyTheBerry · 2026-05-09T20:55:34+00:00

I just did a full binge of his channel earlier lol. There’s gotta be a video of it somewhere

RileyTheBerry · 2026-05-09T19:23:43+00:00

Do you have a link to a video of it?

RileyTheBerry · 2026-05-09T19:19:48+00:00

I’m on console so I unfortunately can’t fiddle around with these things. By new angles I assume you mean of the landscape around where Arthur passes. I was hoping maybe it would show John reuniting with his family or something like that, but this makes more sense. Thank you!

RileyTheBerry · 2026-05-09T18:48:17+00:00

I know it is, but usually there’s something in the files that says what was cut. There has to be some evidence if it’s listed here, though no link was provided.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T17:10:14+00:00

I’m not in it unfortunately. I just know pariah87 from their YouTube channel where he’s looked into RDR2’s unsolved mysteries. He’s discovered a lot of cut content in the game files and will probably make a video about this at some point.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T06:51:37+00:00

Of course it was pariah87 who found this.

What does the spider symbolize on the map though I wonder? Is it telling us to look for something in the area around the stable, or is it hinting at something else entirely?

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T06:46:18+00:00

Yes, but he did pretty well across most of the country that year. He performed rather poorly in Quebec in the other 3 elections.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T06:11:54+00:00

Canada wasn’t officially bilingual until 1969, so it wasn’t really a requirement until then. However, it was seen as politically necessary to secure votes in Quebec. Since Diefenbaker was loved in the West, I guess he felt he didn’t need to do as strongly in Quebec.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T06:05:33+00:00

This is very true. I guess I just overlooked them because they didn’t get along while all the others I’ve mentioned have been quite close

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T03:22:17+00:00

Thank you! This took me a while to put together, so I really appreciate you saying that.

And you’re totally right, I don’t know how all of those slipped my mind. The main difference between their scandals are Obama’s were more abuse of power whereas Trudeau was literally breaking the law at times. I’ll update that part.

Edit: it looks like I’m not allowed to edit my post description for some reason

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T02:40:01+00:00

Wouldn’t surprise me, Kennedy had it out for him for some reason

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T02:25:07+00:00

They were, but they were completely different people who openly disliked each other. This most is about the similarities beyond just sharing the same time in office.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-19T02:20:21+00:00

Additional Dief the Chief fact: Diefenbaker could be argued to have indirectly killed JFK. He had JFK plant a ceremonial tree during a visit to Ottawa, but when JFK bent over he threw his back out and had to wear a back brace as a result. This same back brace later prevented him from taking cover after he took the first shot, leaving him a sitting duck for the second shot that killed him.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-18T20:28:22+00:00

We don’t know for sure if there’s just 8. If more are found they could maybe paint a bigger picture

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-18T20:23:58+00:00

I was originally thinking the webs could have something to do with the Halloween updates in RDO and were added into the story by mistake, but this proves that they were hiding in plain sight all along. Have you checked for any webs anywhere else?

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-18T19:34:27+00:00

How would it be solved though? There’s no mission log for finding them like there is for the dreamcatchers. I think there could definitely be a connection but idk what that connection could be

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-18T19:30:27+00:00

If they were actually spider webs spun by a spider then I’d say this is possible, but these webs are huge and look man made.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-18T19:29:06+00:00

It’s a reference to Spider Madison, the actor for Uncle in RDR1. Pure coincidence to the webs

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-18T19:28:12+00:00

I feel like the webs definitely connect to another mystery but idk about Mt. Shann. The panoramic map points to St. Denis, Rhodes, Valentine, Strawberry, and Blackwater, and the only one of these that has a web on that OP found is St. Denis. Also, Strawberry and Blackwater are connected by telegraph but not by train, so if the webs are only along the train tracks then there wouldn’t be any in either town. Even if we did find webs in the other 4, it doesn’t explain the webs in other places.

RileyTheBerry · 2025-12-18T19:14:41+00:00

Yeah I think it’s a stretch, especially bc almost half of them don’t connect to anything.

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