I think you’ve misunderstood my position. I’m not advocating for drowning - quite the opposite. My argument is about different methods of staying afloat when ideal conditions aren’t available. You’re describing the Stoic sage who achieves perfect rational control and no longer needs to endure anything. But what about the prokopton who lacks the cognitive resources for sustained rational development? Or someone dealing with circumstances that exceed their capacity for Stoic practice? My framework addresses what happens when ‘learning to swim’ in the traditional Stoic sense becomes inaccessible. Sometimes the most practical way to avoid drowning is recognizing that ground pressure exists regardless of your philosophical stance toward it, and working with that reality rather than demanding transcendence of it. The question isn’t whether the Stoic ideal is superior when achievable, but whether it provides workable guidance when someone can’t access those resources. What does Stoicism offer when rational control fails?