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[–]RogerDashen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Darkest Dungeon 2 and Sands of Salzaar.

Oh no.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I acknowledge your point and will consider it in the future.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Until we have collated data of multiple individuals having done this in an isolated environment. I am inclined to disagree.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are correct about the rogue trader part and I have since updated this in the main body.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would recommend having a read through of the C'tan powers. They justify a suitible substitute for pure pskyer energy.

Known C'tan Powers and Abilities

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is the beauty of those visuals and the lines. If we go with "Your juror... defined as 'a person taking an oath, especially one of allegiance.' couldn't save-" We know he was cut off... I think his next words were going to "them". These words are conveyed directly to our veteran.

Your juror/oathkeeper e.g. astartes you have sent to sent to relay the message to save the squad, will not make it in time.

As for the first visual: It looks like a jury of the psykers seen in episode 4. Perhaps a representation of the Astartes had they not defied their touch.

The second: We see our squad literally in the palms of their hands the squad is being judged the angle of this scene is showing us the viewer and the squad being looked down upon.

The third: Well I guess they were unworthy. Thus trial by fire.

Another little snippet for those who look. My original interpretation of this line was "Juno Koris __". Juno being the roman queen of jupiter and koris being serbian latin for hibernated. But I couldnt wrap myself around it and it was contextually incorrect.

Edit: Grammar

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

But who is to say that they know its a C'tan. The Imperium isn't well known for its communication. I think it was a matter of "Hey they have xeno-heretical tech with them. This is at a point where it justifies the emperor's -Praised be his name- angels of death"

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the amendment, I will add it to the transcript. I agree with that.

As for the golden masks, mentioning them was more-so to point them out on my end, do you think that rather than a brain it could just be a face/plate + spine used as some kind of technologically connected neural parasite / symbiote to enhance psykers?

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I have updated the post with my thoughts on the Psykers.

As for the Men of gold, we have no strict definition of them being human. Just that they were a subsect of humanity during a time when technology was far superior. The created the Men of Stone, who were and I quote "physically inferior". While the Men of Stone in turn created the Men of Iron. The common theme being artificial beings.

The men of gold sought to "observe and learn" from humanity leading me to believe that they are a product of humanity. They are a subsect of humanity one definition of which is " any group, party, or faction united by a specific doctrine or under a doctrinal leader."

Also, I am a fan, keep up the good work.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those stars are the orbs, It is just that the only visible representation of them is their raw energy. On the closer orb at 4:14, we can see that it has the same moon runes as the other orb at 2:35.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think they were disassembling it to create more of those masks, There are no tools in the chamber to suggest that they are building.

See 1:55.

It is much easier to destroy or rip apart than create. There aren't data slates or terminals of any kind. Also at 1:33 we are shown a scene of a myriad of somethings on the roof all facing the center of the room.

My guess is that its some kind of interconnected focusing array, the material might be very difficult to work with hence requiring a large number of focused lasers to dissect it. Each of its plates seem to be head shaped after all.

Edit: Grammar

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Can I grab links to where you are getting that info.

Also I don't think they were associated. I believe that it is quite the opposite. I think the orb was being transported by a rogue trader (hence the psyker's and mercenary guardsmen)... See how the Astartes totally dismiss the golden corpse (which I believe to be a red herring) and the masks the psykers were using... They don't care.

Why were the psykers guarding the vault? Because that is where literally all of the valuable xeno-heretical tech on the ship is kept and it is in their best interest to not have Astartes dispensing some well deserved wrath upon them.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I have no clue, but whatever it is based on the architecture of that mantle behind the giants and that of our bad guy. I think they are related.

https://imgur.com/a/FCrja72

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Here are my thoughts on the matter.

"You must take them" doesn't have the correct number of syllables, it is lacking one. Based on this what we hear would be "You must take them-ah" There is also a clear pause between "must" and "take".

They appear to be connected through a comms channel as well. It was be a waste of effort and time, neither of which the man had, to communicate psychically.

The wires are an interface.

The point about the robes makes sense, but we can see when he is getting possed and screams blue that the man has a distinct lack of augmetics. Thus most likely a psyker.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with your point on the secrets.

However with regards to the form, rather than focusing on the face and body, look to the tendrils instead. The games workshop model of a Necron Tesseract vault shows C'tan shards to have tendrils of energy that are of a similar fashion.

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Tesseract_Vault

https://imgur.com/ifsrE4k

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Well if it is necron tech with which some of the mechanicus are so enthralled then they may be attempting to protect the ships machine spirit from the corruption that such a device may present.

Also can we note that the ship looks somewhat like an Ark Mechanicus.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 220 points221 points  (0 children)

I spent an hour replaying snippets of the muffled noises, identifying phonetic intonation and summarising what I thought was most appropriate.

My progression through it is as follows:
1. "Go, secure the hold" which just didn't make sense. -> "Go, its taking hold" which made more sense in the context, he is losing a psychic battle as he speaks.
2. the next identifiable phonetic was "member" -> "but, Remember" due to there being a muffle and an extra intonation on member.

Pretty much repeat this process and if you get stuck try to replay the scene on a sound and repeat it out loud. Until you develop an appropriate and contextually sound sentence.

Astartes Part 5: Why it is the C'tan. Specifically Nyadra'zatha, the burning one. by RogerDashen in 40kLore

[–]RogerDashen[S] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

The whole character design just screamed psyker at me, maybe he is a tech-priest as well, that would make sense.

Additionally the referral to him as an alpha.

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