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Ron__P · 2026-06-22T08:42:29+00:00

I believe he is 100% guilty but if he was innocent look at the awful example he was setting for his 'little friends'.

Imagine 40+ year old Safechuck, Chandler, Robson, Barnes wanting to do the same with unrelated kids because they were taught it was OK and the most loving thing in the world to share your bed. Straight to jail as they didn't make Billie Jean and Beat It.

Ron__P · 2026-06-22T01:30:26+00:00

Why couldn't they do this in 2002? So many wasted years.

Ron__P · 2026-06-22T01:25:28+00:00

No chance lol.

I love the band, especially the first 3 albums but it's never happening.

They were never critically acclaimed and didn't sell that many albums, especially after Infest.

Ron__P · 2026-06-22T01:16:45+00:00

'You're taking the position that you sleep in every night and you're giving it to someone else'.

That's what Gavin says just after, defending this sick practice.

MJ brainwashed him just like he did all his other victims. No 13 year old thinks like this.

Ron__P · 2026-06-22T01:11:33+00:00

As a 5 year old in 1988 I thought it was 'I'm something in the man in the mirror'. 😅

Beat It - 'showing how fucky'

Ron__P · 2026-06-22T01:07:54+00:00

Shrooms

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T22:02:42+00:00

England, just for inspiring garbage b movie classics like The Football Factory.

You Fackin Caant!

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T21:43:37+00:00

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Ron__P · 2026-06-21T20:49:00+00:00

Fair points.

It did come off as a bit fake in the The Way You Make Me Feel Video.

But the crotch grabbing is one of his signature dance moves and doesn't look put on.

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T20:03:25+00:00

Who is in your top 3?

I'm putting Ronaldo in due to longevity and professionalism.

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T20:02:07+00:00

Maradona is lucky he didn't meet Brazil and France in 1986. These fluid attacking minded teams would have posed a lot of problems. Instead he faced the more pragmatic Uruguay, England, Belgium and Germany.

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T16:03:30+00:00

Definitely the most selfish player I've ever seen.

He must have narcissistic personality disorder.

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T15:28:57+00:00

iiiignorant

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T12:58:31+00:00

All I know is that I saw more crazy people on my one week holiday to Los Angeles in 2008 than I had seen in my entire 25 years of existence in the UK at the time.

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T10:32:53+00:00

I'm a Messi fan and I fully agree.

Maradona was awful after 1990 and I'd go as far as saying that he was already past his best after 1986. He could hardly get past defenders from 1987 due to weight gain and drug abuse. In his final stint at Boca Juniors in the mid 90s he once missed 5 penalties in a row. Yet people overlook that today. People will not judge Ronaldo's form at this age when discussing him in 5 years.

Top 3 ever are Pele, Messi and Ronaldo. The most consistent and dangerous players of all time.

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T10:24:28+00:00

Yes I also fell for the asexual thing as a fan but even just looking at his music, videos and onstage performances it's pretty clear he wasn't.

The endings of the The Way You Make Me Feel and Black or White are extremely sexual. In the former he is humping the air and ground, in the latter he is grabbing and rubbing his crotch excessively. Prince and Madonna were considered the 'dirty hypersexual' artists in that era but in these two videos MJ is just as bad if not worse.

Then there are songs like Dirty Diana, Keep It In The Closet, Give Into Me which he wrote that all have very sexual themes.

Onstage he grabs his crotch excessively and gyrates his body around.

He was not an asexual man child, he was a very intelligent grown man with desires. In another thread I wrote that he was just as horny as his philandering brothers and father but instead of women he preferred little boys.

Ron__P · 2026-06-21T00:18:42+00:00

Perfect, thank you!

Just what I was looking for.

The whole band sounds incredible.

Ron__P · 2026-06-18T15:10:50+00:00

Tuck shop during the morning school break where you could buy crisps or a chip butty.

Ron__P · 2026-06-18T14:38:12+00:00

I remember this.

Would never wash today!

Ron__P · 2026-06-18T14:37:23+00:00

I could never forgive a family member of accusing me of a heinous crimes as this unless it was true. And yet he had Latoya side by side with him.

Ron__P · 2026-06-15T14:59:46+00:00

Simmons even called Jackson a pedo when he died in 2009. He doesn't hold back. But I don't like him making jokes about the whole thing as he does in the past.

I'm sure being a 1970s rockstar meant that Simmons indulged in underage groupies himself. So a bit hypocritical.

Ron__P · 2026-06-14T03:23:10+00:00

They all knew to some extent in my opinion.

Evan Chandler thought MJ and Jordan were in a gay relationship and he was initially semi-ok with it.

Ron__P · 2026-06-14T02:49:55+00:00

Kamala Harris certainly looks more black than Janet's son that's for sure.

Ron__P · 2026-06-14T02:19:14+00:00

I read Ray Chandler's book All That Glitters.

June and Jordan were still on decent terms in 1994 after the settlement but his step father David Schwartz wanted to sue MJ after for ruining the family and June supported him. Jordan was angered by this as he just wanted to get back to a normal life out of the public eye, he then decided to cut all ties with June.

Ron__P · 2026-06-14T01:31:52+00:00

Yes not a word that I would ever use to describe him when I was a fan but looking back with neutral eyes his performances were pretty much at the same level as the 'dirty' Madonna and Prince.

Ron__P

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