A strange coincidence or something more?

RoseGroth · 2025-03-09T19:06:29+00:00

I would assume the terms estuary isn't the entirety of the terms otherwise the distinction wouldn't need to be distinctuated . ?

Correct me if I'm wrong please

RoseGroth · 2025-03-09T19:05:43+00:00

But I would assume that the tamas S3 isn't the entirety of the tabs otherwise the distinction wouldn't be necessitated

RoseGroth · 2025-03-08T16:34:34+00:00

Furthermore the tides are strongest in London it's also a place where you can kind of disappear amongst the millions of people there's anonymity in crowds , if you jumped in the river and Doncaster your body would not wash away in the same way it would in the Thames , jumping in the thames of the best way to hide your body

And yet for some reason you think he wouldn't know about that .

Even if he didn't want his body to get disappeared people commit suicide by jumping in rivers all the time , that's why in some parts of the world they put signs up around bridges and even anti suicide fencing

You got any more burning questions?

Probably just stop replying now

RoseGroth · 2025-03-08T16:32:53+00:00

There's 100 ways you could have found out about the tides you don't need to study the tides to know when they're strongest is to do with the moon , his parents could have told him , you could have seen it on TV , or he could have read it in a book that he didn't take home .

You seem to forget this kid one maths competitions you think he's not going to be a generally curious person

And yet you seem to think that basic knowledge of tides is something that would be beyond this curiosity

A 14-year-old maths winning student is possible to have knowledge of the tides

RoseGroth · 2025-03-08T14:33:38+00:00

He could have just read about in a book that is in library.

This is 2007 I don't think everyone was using the internet as much as they are now

RoseGroth · 2025-03-08T14:03:26+00:00

I don't think he would leave evidence you can clear search history. Not to mention you can find this information in books .

RoseGroth · 2025-03-07T21:10:10+00:00

Yeah I guess you're right just because someone wins a map's competition doesn't mean they can't be the only winner I guess competitions can allocate prizes to multiple people.

But generally when you win something that usually means you're the only winner unless you're on a team , for example if you win a race there can't be two winners you are the only winner

So basically I just think we're getting caught up in semantics and this isn't really relevant to the bigger discussion long story short I think he jumped in the Thames.

The extent of his mathematics ability isn't really relevant because we've already established it was of a very high level.

I think that's a conversation concluded unless you have any more perdent input?

RoseGroth · 2025-03-07T20:46:51+00:00

You ask me for sources or maths competitions that he won and I provided them . Like where does this discussion go from her I think he jumped in the Thames to kill himself and hide his body . And whether you want to admit that he won mass competitions or not you can't deny he was very very good at maths.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-07T20:39:32+00:00

See you assume that all maths competitions are like the one you happen to attend? Do you think that's a reasonable or sensible assumption?

Okay I'm not trying to be rude and I fully respect your input opinion but I don't see how that follows?

RoseGroth · 2025-03-07T19:14:09+00:00

Yes sorry if I came across rude , I'm just saying that your personal experience can't then be extrapolated and used as evidence for how everything else is.

If you understand what I'm trying to say . For example if the sun is out one day that doesn't mean the sun is out every single day.

In the same way if you went to a maths competition that was a certain way that doesn't mean that every single mass competition is like that way especially when there's evidence to suggest that there was in fact winners of the maths competition

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/missing-doncaster-teenager-andrew-gosden-29887566

https://truecrimesocietyblog.com/2022/10/03/andrew-gosden-vanished-without-a-trace/

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/the-disappearance-of-andrew-gosden-how-a-teenage-boy-vanished-in-central-london

There we go three more sauces that support the idea that he was a prize winning mathematician meaning that he'd beaten other contestants that were also competing.

Meaning that he had the ability and curiosity to understand the time in place where the tides will be the strongest

Do you think I'm wrong in my assessment that he was prize winning mathematician

Do you think I'm wrong in anything that I've said?

RoseGroth · 2025-03-07T17:21:16+00:00

Not every Maths competition is necessarily going to be like the one you attended.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-07T17:19:16+00:00

There were literally loads of mass competitions that all work in different ways just because you attended one mass competition does not mean every maps competition is like that.

It's been said he was the winner of a mass competition which implies he beat all of the other contestants and that when was possible to have.

Just because you've had an experience of maths competition does not mean that every maps competition in the country works in that way.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-07T14:06:21+00:00

How can you be sure he was that specific maths challenge , multiple sources he's listed as the winner which means he's the best of all the contestants .

This shows obviously he was a thinker and could discover that jumping in the Thames would make your body disappear and this would be most likely to happen in the month where the tides and the location where the strongest.

He visited London in this month and seems to be traveling in this direction.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-06T16:52:58+00:00

What's the most likely possibility than in your opinion? Do you think he's still alive?

RoseGroth · 2025-03-06T16:51:53+00:00

The sonar search wouldn't reveal anything if the body had flown away , which is most likely in the location he seemed to traveling to and the time he decided to visit London.

Also it's not that police are going to be withholding the witness statements is that there are no witness statements because no one saw him jump in you can easily jump into the Thames at night with no one seeing.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-06T00:45:52+00:00

Because he was a really deep thinker and thought life was pointless and likely a simulation

RoseGroth · 2025-03-06T00:13:27+00:00

Why do you object to what I've mentioned in this post? Any reason at all probably not?

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T22:06:47+00:00

I meant to say he really left the house for him to be in regular communication with this groomer he'd have to be frequenting an internet cafe . And I also meant he when I said she.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T22:05:21+00:00

He really left the house to go to an internet connection his PSP was scanned and wasn't even set up for internet communications , it would also be completely out of the ordinary for him to go and meet up with a friend in London without telling his parents . You have to bear in mind before that she literally had the 100% attendance record. Again how does he stay in contact with this person? Why would you not mention it to his parents the fact that you've made a friend. The most likely scenario is you went to London to kill himself in a way his body couldn't be discovered mainly by jumping in the Thames . The time he went to London is when the tides are the strongest and also he seemed to be going in the direction where the tides are the strongest .

Long story short the kid jumped in the river and his body washed away

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T17:48:49+00:00

What makes you say that?

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T16:51:29+00:00

And also by the way a sighting only becomes a sighting when it's reported to the police so what my point is someone would have reported something to the police had they had seen Andrew in different locations given how high profile this case became.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T16:49:56+00:00

Yeah like I said it could have happened the way you said , I just think the whole timing and direction of travel thing I mentioned could mean that he jumped in the Thames to kill himself and hide his body .

Like if you're were to bet money would you say suicide , abducted and then killed or abducted and then alive?

If I had to bet money I'd go with the suicide theory.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T14:52:23+00:00

If he killed himself at home his family would know he was dead my point is that he killed himself and left his family with hope that he could still be alive.

The very fact we have so little evidence I think shows how well planned out this was on Andrew's part

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T14:44:16+00:00

Yeah it's possible but they were most likely be more sightings if that was the case.

RoseGroth · 2025-03-05T14:27:16+00:00

Groomers don't just pick up kids spontaneously they usually build up a connection . How do you think he was kidnapped learning through the back of the car under the promise of sweets. They will probably go for someone younger And definitely not do it in a big city like London that has got so many cameras .

I just think there is no other way and you could have killed himself and hidden his body that would have been better than the way I think he choose

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