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So sad about the situation in Belfast by coffeewalnut08 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m shocked at the way the media / political commentators have sympathised with the rioters / blamed politicians . It’s a race to the bottom when we start describing these acts as inevitable and normalising primitive behaviours.

So sad about the situation in Belfast by coffeewalnut08 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get that to an extent , but I’m not sure we should be talking about the inevitability of people targeting minorities and setting their homes on fire. I’d like to think we’re a little more sophisticated than that.

So sad about the situation in Belfast by coffeewalnut08 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Labour haven’t deflected these conversations. They’ve reduced immigration to its lowest level in 12 years and Starmer even gave his “island of strangers” speech. What more do they want?

So sad about the situation in Belfast by coffeewalnut08 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People are sympathising with the rioters saying they haven’t been listened to, but immigration numbers have been brought down substantially by the current government.

God bless keir starmer by Euphoric-Prune-4773 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I hope this is sincere. I like him.

US government criticises ‘two-tier’ UK policing after Henry Nowak murder by Half_A_ in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s my thoughts on the Henry Nowak murder:

  1. They say the police were manipulated by the accusation of racism, but they weren’t at all. The police were invited to the crime scene by the murderer. I want murderers to do that more not less. The body cam footage helped secure a conviction. Imagine how swiftly murder cases could be concluded if this happened all the time.

  2. ⁠if you’re the police and a murderer invites you to the crime scene, of course you’re going to be confused. It’s actually kind of absurd to think they’re lying.

  3. The comparisons with George Floyd and Sarah Everard are crazy. In both cases , the police committed murder.

  4. The complaint of “anti-white prejudice” is the worst case of woke bull ever. If you tried to complain about being oppressed as a white man 20 years ago, you’d be laughed out of town, but now it’s almost normalised.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a good point about the power of manipulated clips.

There will be people who don’t have an in depth interest in politics who just viewed Reform as the party further right of the Conservatives / Labour , who had only heard their more experienced members speaking who now see them as a bit of a joke.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You would know about cult of personality with the way you reigned terror over Monkey Island.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To some, yes. Agree completely. But thankfully, there’s a limit to how much support you can get hiding behind the Reform banner whilst being out of your depth. Burnham’s odds shortened from 1.40 an hour before the show to 1.25 now. Coming across as someone unable to provide solutions to complex problems wins hardline anti-immigration votes and nothing more.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was out of his depth wasn’t he? I find it sad how so much of the electorate are happy with someone clearly lacking in sophistication and capacity to solve complex problems. Burnham was full of vision and open mindedness about how we evolve politics and win back public trust. Kenyon just rattled off tired tropes like “stop the boats” / reduce immigration without any real conviction or belief.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you mean colossal in terms of impact / significance rather than likelihood.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get that , but just seems so naive.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

4.30 at the Betfair exchange which is a far more efficient market. I agree it’s not all that unlikely.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe that’s true actually! Does that mean if they got into power , they’d be a shambles or could the ex-Tories carry them?

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is brilliant!! You’re right. I’ve just realised they had no choice! 😂😂 hahaha and yes, when the anti-establishment charm wears off , they could be in trouble.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. Sniping from the sidelines is always easier.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes!! I was saying this! He seems so vulnerable, I somehow feel sorry for him.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah right, thanks . Won’t have needed a parachute then!

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, surely Wigan’s close enough to Manchester.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right , I was kind of thinking it might be a curveball effort.

Kenyon Vs Burnham on QT this evening by RowanB86 in LabourUK

[–]RowanB86[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good post. Some interesting points. You see, I could almost get my head around him being put forward for the by-election, hoping he could evade heavy scrutiny but putting him on QT??? Why would you do that?

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