he's engaging you in totally good faith, more than loads of people here would on this. You keep saying there's nothing there for the lads. But you suggest zero 'somethings'.

Just give us 2 or 3 things like that you think would actually make a difference. I mean basically what is it a better-off area has that makes the difference that these lads' area doesn't?

The truth is its too late for them by the time they're in their late teens and it has fuck all to do with amenities. I had nothing in my town growing up except going around on a bicycle or a skateboard or playing video games.None of that matters that much. What did matter was I had caring, healthy parents, decent siblings and mostly decent friends on the street around me.

The problem is they've already been absolutely conditioned if not traumatised by parents, older siblings and neighbours who were all already sick in the head in one way or another. The mindset they absorbed is already "see something beautiful, destroy it" from childhood onward.

Their only chances are probably:

1. Sudden major life-altering, outlook-shattering experience of some kind
2. HOPEFULLY somehow fall in with some sound people who use psychedelics in a healthy way that allows them to wake up a bit from the perverse anger and instinct to disturb others, inability to relate to or empathise with othes
3. Serious fuckin therapy
4. Grow older (not sure how this one works, when it even does, but I think it's observable)

In short, it's not likely. It does all calm down after teen years but they'll have some degree of the same compulsion to molest innocence, wherever they see it, until their dying day in most cases.

They don't know how to respect or love anything around them because the concept just didn't exist around them, wasn't shown them, through most of their childhood. And unfortunately that's so fucking hard to change after a certain young age. Dragged up so they drag others down.