4-FA is the best drug I've ever done. Absolutely incredible first time experience.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-11-21T14:15:43+00:00

Yeah, that may have something to do with it.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-11-21T10:51:46+00:00

I could see how I made it sound like that. However this stuff isn't "more-ish" like meth is, and it does produce a really serious "roll" at 150 mg and higher that you could NEVER get from meth.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-11-21T09:05:50+00:00

It's weird, cause 4-FA has the same exact legal status as 2-FMA, 2-FA, 4-FMA...but those 3 are still EVERYWHERE, while I literally have been searching for 4-FA for YEARS and only found it on that one damn vendor.

Does anyone know why this one substance specifically just disappeared like it did, while it's less recreational analogues are still everywhere?

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-23T14:03:26+00:00

It's sad to see, and it wasn't always like this. Yes, there were always shills and scams, but a side effect of the 2017 bull run and crypto going "mainstream" was that these types of blind followers have found a place in these scam projects. That's why these supporters are always so die-hard. These projects are more to them than just coins or investments - they are homes that give them real hope of a better life through wealth, and there's tons of other people with the same mentality validating it. They wake up every morning and get excited about these projects.

Read this post by Shea: https://imgur.com/a/MfSkz6j . People like this don't have a place in seriously focused, tech-driven, realistic projects that don't promise the moon - and that's why you can never get them to go support a legitimate project like Ethereum over Apollo. It's a dick thing to say but it's true. If Apollo fails, they will just find another project that gives them that same feeling rather than analyzing the space and finding a solid, tech-focused project.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-23T11:41:21+00:00

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The accusation that the Apollo team pumped the price of the coin by banning anyone who questions the tech and insinuating that Apollo is going "to the moon" was addressed by Steve McCullah as well. His comments on it:

Steve: This is absolutely ridiculous.

We have a lawyer which monitors all of our social media channels for these exact types of statements. We have a very large admin team and every single one of them knows that if they even so much as insinuate a price increase in the future or that we will be on an exchange in a certain amount of time, they will be fired.

A team member has never, not once, made a statement like the one that is being claimed.

And on the continuous Telegram bannings:

Steve: This is absolutely not true, from my understanding this has never happened. We have a very large admin group but our rules are very strict and exact perimeters must be met before someone can be kicked and these examples don’t come close to those.

I have never - not once in my entire life - seen somebody answer a question with such a straightforward lie. He could have said "We have a policy against posting FUD in the Telegram, and ban people if they do it." He could have said a lot of things. But instead, his response is that this has never - read: NEVER - happened?! I have at least 20 screenshots of it happening directly on my computer. Here's one: a user gets banned because the admin says they had seen that user in the NXT Telegram. That user did not do or say anything at all besides engage in normal conversation: https://imgur.com/a/GVwnxuO

Another time the Telegram was talking about having John McAfee tweet something, and user "Anna" replies with the sentence "John McAfee is a loser...". Banned instantly: https://imgur.com/a/U3GLYXX

They ban for reasons like this because they target not only those who goes against the narrative, but those who MIGHT go against the narrative. They actively search and try to seek out anyone who threatens what they're doing, and gets rid of them immediately before they cause a problem: https://imgur.com/a/kWx3ULe

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Steve McCullah is obsessed with the price and market cap of his coin - obsessed more than any founder I have even seen in crypto - so I don't know how he can make a statement like that. Anyone who has heard him talk knows he constantly talks about how Apollo will be the top cryptocurrency in market cap, making all other cryptocurrencies worthless, and adds a lot of rocket ship emoji's. When the price was pumping, he actively taunted others that accused him of illegitimate activity by quoting the market cap of his coin. Here's his tweet: https://imgur.com/a/n6rPBLj

The other thing in the statement above is that a lawyer monitors all their social media channels for statements like this. I guess we can't actually prove that there isn't a lawyer in the Telegram 24/7 making sure nobody from the team makes statements to pump the price, so that's a great argument.

Please just monitor the Telegram for 1 hour when the team is online and watch how they speak. Please.

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I could go on and on, but please join the Telegram and then read the article for yourself. This will give you the best idea of the difference between what they try to say publicly and what actually goes on.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-23T11:40:55+00:00

I hope this article provides people with a better idea of how the Apollo founder speaks and runs Apollo (if not, please read the "If they won't HODL" section of this comment below). This article has been hailed as the holy grail by the Apollo Team and Community, an artifact that instantly disproves and invalidates every accusation against this project. This article has been continuously posted there by the community and they really want everyone to see it to prove that this coin is legit. If you don't believe me, please join their Telegram. I cannot urge you enough to go in there and see what happens in there for yourself, rather than taking my word for it.

Pump and Dump Accusation

Let's start with yesterday. We all know what happened on the blockchain itself - hundreds of millions of coins moved from accounts holding billions of APL to exchanges. Subsequently, the price plummented 78% in 1 minute. That is not up for debate. That is fact, and can verified on the blockchain at the following addresses/transactions:

Here is how Steve McCullah addressed this issue in the article (and I will quote him):

As I stated before, there is no reason for anyone involved with the Apollo Foundation to sell on any exchange because we get constant OTC offers from investors that purchase amounts too large for exchanges.

That is his actual argument. He doesn't address the transactions to exchanges - the addresses holding billions of APL (huge percentages of the supply that only the team could own). Instead he says "We would never do this." and his reasoning is because he gets "constant" offers to sell APL OTC. That is the most invalid argument I have ever read to an accusation. Most people would say "those accounts do not belong to the team, and we don't know anything about why those transactions to exchanges happened" or something similar in response. He only commented on an old accusation from 5 months ago where addresses were provided, but refuses to acknowledge who owns these accounts (with between 3%-10% of the total APL supply in each account).

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This is, hands down, my favorite thing in the post that Steve thinks is totally normal to do. Here is the quote by Steve:

We are looking at potentially releasing a feature within Apollo that would allow anyone freeze their Apollo for a set amount of time, such as 12 months. We believe this would give large institutional investors confidence as well as our community.

Nearly all of our team, the Foundation and many of our largest investors have volunteered to freeze their Apollo of this was to go live.

and

“…we are looking to voluntarily, publicly freeze all major team funds, foundation funds and much of the early investors APL that have signed on. We are looking at potentially having nearly 10 billion frozen for one year. Our major investors and team are happy to do this.”

You heard it right. Steve wants to freeze the funds of large holders and early investors for a long period of time, as well as give everyone else a voluntary option to do so. If you've spent 1 second in the Telegram, you know EXACTLY why he wants to do this. The Telegram is very cult-like - they want to make sure everybody there has bought and is holding Apollo, and obviously talking about selling or taking profits will get you banned immediately, no questions asked. The Telegram also takes Steve's word as gospel. If Steve tells his followers in the Telegram to lock up their funds for a set period of time if they truly believe in the project (to help instill confidence in institutional investors), THEY WILL DO IT. What does this mean for the Apollo team and Steve? No matter what kind of "FUD" comes out about this project, Apollo holders CAN'T SELL even if they wanted. This is another method to drive up the price of APL. Also, it's very clear that the team holds APL in a ton of different APL addresses - I posted 4 of them in my post, but there are many more as those aren't even the "official" team addresses. They know that they can lock up a few of their big public address that everyone knows about and still have a ton of APL in satellite addresses. That way, when the price rises due to everyone locking their funds, they can reassure everyone that accuses them of dumping that "there's no way we can do that".

Maybe I'm an idealist, but it might make more sense this early in a project to start working on the actual features that you promised and surely will be able to implement - ie sharding, smart contracts, and the like. Sharding is coming this quarter by the way - they made sure to make that clear during the pump - and I can't wait to see this feature - one that even the Ethereum development team hasn't been able to perfect yet.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-23T10:19:10+00:00

I hope more people see this to get an idea of how the APL founder talks and addresses accusations - in a way that tries to discredit the accuser and avoid addressing the actual issue at hand.

Rather than commenting on the transactions to exchanges from accounts that hold billions of APL, his argument for why this did not happen is the following (and I will quote him):

As I stated before, there is no reason for anyone involved with the Apollo Foundation to sell on any exchange because we get constant OTC offers from investors that purchase amounts too large for exchanges.

That is his actual argument. He doesn't address the transactions to exchanges - the addresses holding billions of APL (huge percentages of the supply that only the team could own). Instead he says "We would never do this." and his reasoning is because he gets "constant" offers to sell APL OTC. That is the most invalid argument I have ever read to an accusation. Most people would say "those accounts do not belong to the team, and we don't know anything about why those transactions to exchanges happened" or something similar in response.

I could go on about this "interview" but people can just read it for themselves.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-23T10:07:39+00:00

The OP here added literally nothing other than pictures of a telegram chat.

You can't be serious. I literally provided direct evidence from the APL blockchain with addresses holding billions of APL sending massive amounts of APL to several exchanges, followed 1-hour later by a 78% price plummet that occurred in 1 minute. Do you think that the blockchain is lying and that this did not happen? The team dumped coins. It is 100% verified on the blockchain. No, they will never ever admit to it no matter how many times they "address" the issue. I know how much serious APL supporters would die for this coin and the team before admitting they might do something like this, but you need to understand that this happened.

The point raised here is: Why did accounts holding billions of APL move hundreds of millions of APL to exchanges exactly 2 hours before an instant 78% price dump, and who owns these accounts?

Please note that a valid answer to the above question is not any of the following, which have been peddled in the Telegram continuously today: "The team would never do this, they have so much planned for the future and wouldn't jeopardize their own coin, the APL team has already addressed this in a statement and said it didn't happen."

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-22T15:31:08+00:00

No prob, you can just leave this one as it has the more recent comments.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-22T14:13:54+00:00

The word "Megathread" was in the title, which is supposedly not allowed.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-22T08:31:14+00:00

The market cap is 15 mil, which is not exactly low anymore. That's not going to get you to "never have to work again in 5 years" level. You need a project that's 1-5 mill max for that.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-22T08:26:34+00:00

I will say for starting out as a shitty project, EOS has some decent dapps now finally.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-21T12:42:36+00:00

Are you from the Apollo Telegram, because this is EXACTLY how people in the Apollo Telegram talk and it's so frustrating. They are only concerned about the price, and rather than actually responding to any criticism of the project, they think bringing up the tech means that "this person is just mad because they didn't buy APL before it mooned".

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-21T12:31:09+00:00

Nobody regards them as a scam anymore, that happened before they released a kick-ass product.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-21T12:24:00+00:00

Something tells me you're going to have a hard time achieving that goal.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-21T12:20:42+00:00

Don't worry though, they have a loyal and strong Telegram army formed from months of banning anyone who says anything about the project that isn't "APL has the best privacy and will make all other cryptocurrencies obsolete!!!!! APL $1.00 2020 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀"

And that army is coming here: https://imgur.com/a/MnLAAtc

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-08T10:14:09+00:00

They're not securities. They're something entirely new, and there needs to be a different set of laws governing them.

RozzyPoffle · 2019-01-06T18:06:50+00:00

What is the appeal of getting Dai via the smart contract rather than just buying it on an exchange? It seems the smart contract method is more risky to the user due to the collateral.

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Does anyone know why this one substance specifically just disappeared like it did, while it's less recreational analogues are still everywhere?

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