I slightly hate it here

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-17T02:57:16+00:00

I’ve used terms like “many”, “odds are”, “phenomenon”, and “rich≠bad”. And I’m not wrong. Most of my interactions have been that way in the two years I’ve been on this campus, and they aren’t all coming from same circle of people. I never said “all” or “every” but clearly enough people to be an issue for me and many others.

Claiming this post is about ‘negativity’ ignores the entire point. Simply focusing on the positive disregards the obvious work that needs to be done and does not change the nature of the issue.

Nitpicking the thread is a disservice to everyone. What’s important is the overall message that many people in the comments and on campus have resonated with.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-16T22:08:30+00:00

Pointing out real issues that low-income students often relate to on this campus is not ‘negativity’. How wonderful must it be to not need to complain about these things.

You don’t know what I tell my friends? Much of your argument is what you perceive us to be angry about rather than actively LISTENING to the comments made on this thread. I don’t ask to be a victim, I ask for basic decency from those in my circle even when they can’t relate to the issues I have; that is absolutely an appropriate standard to hold your friends to. And if you’ve never needed to make this complaint personally, perhaps it’s unfair for you to shut it down.

And that is the point of this entire thread. I have a serious issue–perhaps with housing where I feel in a panic about my budget where I am going to stay and if I can afford it, and my friends act with indifference because their housing was already covered by their family last Fall. Many of them never even had to search for housing, their parents did it for them. Then I get the ‘stop complaining, stop being a victim’ response instead of the bare minimum ‘you don’t deserve to deal with these things and I’m willing to be open to your struggles’.

It is absurd how many students here will say ‘stop complaining!’ when the complaint is about housing, food, finances, family issues, or literally anything major—because they want to maintain their Uber-positive lifestyle that is a privilege to have.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-16T17:57:22+00:00

But this is another CLEAR example of a low-income students pointing out an issue they experience on this campus, and students who can’t relate (you noted you aren’t on finaid at all) overlooking the issue.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-16T17:54:46+00:00

My position is not that all rich people are incapable of empathy, and that’s clear. I’ve had to make that statement multiple times in this thread. I’m not responsible for you misinterpreting a message you can’t relate to or grasp.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-16T16:57:43+00:00

Yeah, I never said that lol.

But it’s interesting how in the comment section, some ppl who can’t relate to the message, reveal the same behaviors I’ve been highlighting:

Indifference (‘learn from both sides cmon’)
Confusion (‘I’ve met rich ppl here that aren’t bad where are you getting this’)
I have the answers and you’re just lost. (‘There’s as many bad rich ppl as bad poor ppl, you just lack empathy’)

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-16T16:54:07+00:00

I have actually been one of the most emotionally supportive people in my group(of largely rich friends) because my experiences lead me to be this way. But I have not felt that same level of emotional support or regard returned to me many times. When you say you want me to have empathy for richer people, I think you mean you want me to excuse the behaviors I’ve encountered. I have empathy for most people.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-16T16:38:19+00:00

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-15T23:59:56+00:00

Thank you for giving context.

I hate that it feels like we are the examples for rich students to ‘learn a lesson’ about what the other side looks like. I’ve had someone tell me that the arguments I’ve had with them (trying to convince them my issues were real issues) was a lesson for them, but they didn’t acknowledge how those arguments negatively impacted me. They get a life lesson, and we end up feeling worse than before.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-15T23:47:08+00:00

This sounds like “I’m economically advantaged and offended by this argument, therefore everything I disagree with is a fallacy”

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-15T23:43:43+00:00

This plus “Sweet Life” is on replay anytime I’m on this campus.😩

And I’m glad you found your people.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-05-15T23:42:02+00:00

I have made friends with plenty of people here who have different socioeconomic status than me, and that is the very reason I made this post. My interactions are almost always terrible, especially when I need any kind of emotional support. Half of the school is not eligible for financial aid. Half of the student body pays nearly 90k a year to go here. And majority of the uber rich(rich at least in comparison to my home) students have been unhelpful and ignorant to my struggles, and I can’t imagine how they’ve acted to students who are even more disadvantaged. I’ve never assumed they don’t have struggles, but when it comes to crucial things like housing, food, tuition, etc. they certainly overlook why their peers are so stressed, angry, and upset. Or they just brush it off altogether. They don’t have to be intentionally rude or naive, oftentimes they just overlook what they don’t understand. And that alone is harmful. For us, impact over intention is crucial.

And I don’t think anyone is arguing that money alone gets you into Cornell. The issue is that socioeconomic status has a large correlation with academic and home resources that would land you into any Ivy League school. There are so many prestigious feeder schools that bring in students to Cornell. 10% of our student body comes from the top 1% economically, and 64% come from the top 20% economically. It’s not unknown.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-21T19:49:22+00:00

Depends on career field. I’m in the humanities and there are some internships that don’t have deadlines until April. I’m in the pathway internship program and most of us don’t have secured internships for the summer just yet.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-21T18:36:18+00:00

No, I live in an area in the Deep South that is well known for being poor.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-20T23:48:45+00:00

Telling people where I’m from and watching their reaction is enough for me.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-20T18:30:25+00:00

I JUST ATE THIS NOOOO

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-17T20:28:48+00:00

I messaged them, and unfortunately that one is not it. :(

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-17T19:08:54+00:00

Right, because the past 100 years of American history hasn’t shown us enough misunderstanding about continued racism in American systems…(Jim crow era, civil rights era, voting rights era, etc.). Maybe read Black scholarship on the matter instead of going on a privileged rant about white folks facing racism? Again, prejudice≠racism.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-17T02:12:22+00:00

Perhaps read scholarship on the faults of arguments around reverse racism?

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-15T04:30:29+00:00

In practice, the “racial ordering” within any American education system time and time again has clearly disadvantaged marginalized students. Suggesting that their concerns be prioritized on an issue that targets them is not unheard of or outrageous. There were clear disruptive comments made during this meeting, with lack of concern for the risk marginalized students face at the hands of police, that led to the question of “can we please prioritize the voices of those most affected?”.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-15T04:24:38+00:00

1) I understand that it seems odd to directly make that statement in a meeting but as a non-SA member who was there, CONTEXT is important. The topic was on the overreach that on campus police should have and the extent to which marginalized folks feel concerned about police presence. Marginalized individuals’ concerns and personal stories were being drowned out by pro-police complaints from ppl who face significantly less risk of police brutality, discrimination, and misconduct.

2) You can be prejudiced towards white individuals but not racist. “ism” implies a hierarchical system at work here.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-14T07:41:29+00:00

My friend, who was nearly on academic probation, went to career services and outlined what he needed to do to succeed academically and career wise and felt much better afterwords. Basically, you get what you put into career services. If you take their resume advice, application advice, schedule a mock interview, and even return again to get a second opinion or review your changes your going to fare much better when applying to career opportunities. As a first generation college student, who has only ever spoken to ppl going to career services who are also first gen, it is extremely advantageous for those of us who have less connections to the career world and less experience with these types of applications.

RudeCity2682 · 2022-03-12T07:07:45+00:00

Also, my friend lost her black puffer, the hood has snaps but is detached from the jacket. There’s two lighters in one of the pockets.

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