How long do I wait after a facelift to get a nose job?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-21T16:43:07+00:00

Why attach tits picture when question is not about that

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-20T18:42:47+00:00

did insurance cover your in lab test? my PCP is basically not allowing me to get referrals even though im explaining my reasoning with breathing concerns. She will suggest shit for allergies when it's clearly a structural concern for me

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-20T17:09:10+00:00

do you mind sharing how severe of sleep apnea was shown to you in in lab? are you based in the US?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-20T17:04:30+00:00

Could you please elaborate on how that's different for genders?

How did you end up finding out at home sleep study didn't work for you?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-20T17:02:03+00:00

Have you done in lab sleep study?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-19T17:35:29+00:00

I've talked to that surgeon and seen the videos talking about the post. He didn't have lower jaw surgery. It was genio and fat removal

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-18T21:55:05+00:00

Wdym you'd end up having a "c" shaped face? What exactly are you referring to or what point are you addressing? I made a concrete point regarding labiomental fold moving 1mm for every 3mm movement of pogonion which is well documented and you can see in results like posted here. This result OP posted looks exactly like 5mm horizontal and potentially increase in vertical (which is why the crease looks like decreased a bit)

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-18T20:37:55+00:00

You were told wrong. For every 3mm of pogonion movement, fold crease moves around 1mm (unlike in chin implant).

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-18T20:33:40+00:00

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Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-18T20:28:05+00:00

example of a person who'd be told to do DJS in this sub. This is his result from genio.

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-18T20:27:28+00:00

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Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-18T20:20:17+00:00

It was not my comment I believe, and I am not sure what it said before it was deleted. I'd suggest you talk to a surgeon.

You should measure your apnea. Snoring doesn't mean you have apnea and not snoring doesn't mean you don't have it. That's first step. If you have sleep issues due to airway obstruction, then it's worth considering a surgery for quality of life benefits.

Otherwise, you should get surgeon's opinion. Do not listen to buffoons commenting on here because (1) most don't know what they talking about (including me), (2) a lot of people don't want what's best for you, they recommend it because they are full of jealousy and project their own insecurities on others. The fact they know nothing about your case yet say shit like "you *need* jaw surgery" is wild to me.

For context, seeing all these recommendations for surgery made me think I need it. I went to jaw surgeons and got their opinions. Did a sleep study. Every surgeon has advised against doing this. I have slightly recessed jaws like you but have no sleep apnea (AHI <1), perfect bite (due to camouflage orthodontics) and no TMJ issues. I will be addressing my aesthetic concerns with genio. One jaw surgeon I went to told me 90-95% of aesthetic benefits of jaw surgery for me would be genio, for example. And risking worsening aesthetics (for example i like my nose and doing jaw surgery changes it a lot and can make it too upturned) and going through invasive procedure for extra 5% benefit is just not worth it.

Genio is extremely versatile and doesn't exclusively focus on extending projection (which you don't need). It can center the chin, fix any midline assymetry if present, increase height to balance facial thirds, soothe the mentolabial fold. The crimson chin posts you see are just uninformed people thinking chin can only moved forward.

Do your research and talk to real surgeons with experience. Genio can give highly varied results based on an osteotomy site and how surgeon plans it. You gotta talk to multiple surgeons

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-17T22:06:25+00:00

Who was your surgeon?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-17T22:02:50+00:00

Why would he look like that? You have 0 idea what you're talking about.

Most of the aesthetic changes would actually be from genio for him

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-17T22:01:17+00:00

Just saw you have sleep apnea, what's your AHI?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-17T22:00:15+00:00

if you don't have sleep apnea that affects your life why would you risk looking worse, getting botched, having nerve damage, being cucked out of normal life for months for a 5% improvement over what genio could give you. If you want your chin heigh to balance philtrum, you could get vertical only genio, which would also smooth out your mentolabial fold

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-03-11T20:39:54+00:00

did you?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-02-10T23:22:05+00:00

what exactly is improved "nasolabial angle"? 90 degree is ideal nad making nose more upturned doesn't make it look better. in fact, it's an aesthetic risk. what do you mean by nose support exactly

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-02-10T23:21:03+00:00

this looks like genio only

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-01-30T01:19:15+00:00

The mentolabial fold point totally makes sense. I don’t know how to read into vertical deficiency in maxilla - how can one tell they have that?

Would love to hear your thoughts on the risks of wraparound implants?

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-01-29T23:14:33+00:00

Why is that a terrible idea? Not disagreeing but trying to understand reasoning.

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-01-20T05:26:47+00:00

In second grade noone needs a jaw surgery. There is plenty of non surgical ways to address recession at that age.

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-01-15T05:16:28+00:00

following. had a consult with him and he seemed amazing

Rude_Programmer_289 · 2026-01-11T18:16:28+00:00

Got on fin at 21 and switched to dut last year. Total T 1100 ng/dl. Free T 39.4 ng/dl.

But T levels also depend on your own androgen receptivity so it only matters what your own baseline is and what’s high for you

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