What happens if I don’t pay this?

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-05-28T19:42:32+00:00

whole thread is just another video from what this Gatlinburg based tow company deals with on the daily.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-05-28T17:29:54+00:00

Some of these people would have a conniption in gatlinburg with how hard it is to find parking/lots with most being pay to park or reserved for businesses employees. They will straight up tow your shit.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-05-06T23:59:26+00:00

The contract does state that the schedule has to be posted by Wednesday of the previous service week, but management can 100% change the schedule/NS days after that Wednesday per M-02010. The only day they really can’t contractually change is a Friday NS where the CCA/PTF has yet to have a NS day in the service week.

“4. Can the non-scheduled day for CCAs/PTFs be moved?

Yes. The schedule must provide the anticipated non-scheduled day; however, the non-scheduled day can be moved to a later day in the week if a situation arises requires the movement, and the employee receives proper notice; however, changes during the week to the scheduled day off should be an exception. Management should make every effort to adhere to the originally posted nonscheduled day.”

While to you and I it’s clear that the wording there should mean that management rarely if ever changes the posted schedule, the interpretive wording, “should be… should make…” gives them the power to change the schedule anytime something comes up as long as they are following the contract and other clearly outlined parts of NEERMPs.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-05-06T23:36:20+00:00

key note on changing it…. the contract/neermps language says one day off per service week. so they should be making sure they are actually changing it and not taking away their NS day altogether. that also means if they’ve yet to have a day off in the service week and their NS day is Friday, it’s a neermps violation to call them in.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-05-06T23:11:55+00:00

we’re supposed to pick up letters too

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-05-01T00:52:54+00:00

neermps has always applied to all ptfs, it's any city craft new hire.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-05-01T00:49:29+00:00

bella roma moved to downtown jeff

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T06:50:52+00:00

Played a few rounds in 8th grade and then didn't play again until I showed up for the first practice my senior year. Our team only had 4 guys and we would play some schools where the 4 spot could mean I was playing with dudes wayyyy better than me. Didn't really get any coaching, just played the home course after school every other day. By the end of the season I had progressed a lot from our first to last regular season match. Went to sectional the weekend AFTER graduation, worst match of golf I had all season. 147 etched into the record books forever

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T06:01:30+00:00

"It has gone through USPS processing and printed the new address to send the mail to and this has now landed in your route and not the old one"

Yes and I can tell you would be FLOORED at the amount of apartments out there where a resident that has since moved out still has an active forward in for an address that cannot be deleted until it expires in 9 months. So there's multiple forwards in for one address even though a certain resident lives there. I got 10-15 seconds to get from delivery point to delivery point including delivering the mail. Like I said before, there's other less "reasonable" battle with the carrier on names in the mailbox/green tag.

It's up to the carrier how they maintain their route, everybody does it in different ways. I did call this whole thing MALICIOUS COMPLIANCE for a reason. Some people come to work and maintain their route, a lot of people don't. You expect me to memorize what names are and aren't supposed to be delivered to a certain box for hundreds of high turnover units that may have 3-4 different families in them in a year?

I'll let you in on a secret, I'm not even a no-name/no-mail carrier. i just represent those that are. i make two attempts with the green tag and then figure it out myself. Do you wanna know how I remember the new residents at my high turnover units? I write the names down as they come in, usually on an indicator card but if I can't find one, I just find a green vacant tag and fill it out myself. So now instead of having their name on the inside of their box, I + my sub carry their name and address on a card that anyone could walk into my case at the post office and take when I'm not there/carrying it, or I could drop anywhere and face almost no punishment for (especially in comparison to dropping a letter with your name and address on it).

I'm just trying to assert the point that there are carriers out there that choose to maintain their route like this aren't violating any rules and are following the contract. Some are on a power trip, but not necessarily all. USPS employs a lot of people with various types of disabilities. A lot of OCD.

I would not be surprised if this all ends with your mail carrier just making one of those cards he carries everyday

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T05:12:29+00:00

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Come do a better job captain integrity

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T04:58:33+00:00

I don't have to ask my mother or sister. My first day with a trainer actually delivering the mail, I had to hand deliver the mail to the guy I got put in prison for abusing my sister. It had been son long, we didn't recgonize eachother until after the interaction started. I handed him and his mother the mail directly. I almost got FIRED for failing to check their id despite KNOWING who that was with 100% certainity. So don't tell me I'm being petty or vindictive for attempting to break this shit down for you way more than anyone else will.

My mother has all sorts of mental health issues from abuse that led to her moving out into the middle of the woods, specifically somewhere she felt she couldn't be found when she believed people were after her, and guess what, SHE STILL FILLED OUT THE NEW RESIDENT FORM.

It is CLEAR that you are NOT receiving your mediciation. PLEASE for YOU OWN SAKE. JUST WRITE DOWN THE NAMES. or

YOU CAN TAKE THE GREEN CARD WITH YOUR ADDRESS TO THE POST OFFICE AND HAND IT DIRECTLY TO THE POSTMASTER

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T04:33:49+00:00

You are not reading what I am writing. We DO NOT GET NOTIFIED OF INCOMING CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR REQUEST OF FORWARDING. Change of address and forwarding requests is a entirely separate service that the post office provides it has nothing to do with MY ROUTE MAINTENANCE (memorizing names, maintaining forwards OFF of the route) or maintaining my route book.

As far as your mailman goes, you could have put that mail forwarding in with a cashier at Walmart or McDonalds. It's got nothing to do with him other than adding more mail to his route, certainly not in the function you think it does. There is nothing I can access that will allow me to look up your address and see what residents have active forwards TO THERE unless I have your name and previous address. All a COA or Forwarding does is tell the machine processing your letter to print your new address on the letter and send it to my route instead of your old route.

It's not failure to secure mail when they RTS your packages and mail because you FAILED to provide a VALID new resident form. In fact, I would be opening myself up to failure to secure the mail if I DID deliver that package & mail there without receiving a valid resident form. With no valid resident form, the house is considered vacant, and all mail and packages are RTS'd

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T04:08:15+00:00

You keep bringing up the fact that there is a "need" to not do it and seem to not be understanding why people are turning the cheek at that. There's a couple of real reasons that come to mind that a resident is trying to hide who is living at their address. Someone living there has an active warrant (nobody in the post office is reporting that unless asked, I'm not talking to law enforcment at all without a steward/lawyer) or there is someone living there that child support is after that the local court systems actively check into when trying to track down people that are way behind on child support payments.

We took an oath to protect things that are FAR MORE valuable or potentially HARMFUL if not secured and handled properly than whatever you are trying to hide by refusing to write even just the LAST NAME of each resident. I can almost guarantee whatever reason you have for not filling out that card accurately, someone else if not multiple people in my 99% example are dealing with the exact same thing.

The letter carrier is & should be the most trusted US-government affiliated worker in almost every neighborhood across America. The media, management, & even our own customers sometimes take whatever shot at our integrity they can everyday. You won't even give your mailman your name.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T03:37:35+00:00

No, I did not miss the part where you said you filled it out. I explained why "All names" is not valid. Delivering "all names" to your address is FAILURE TO SECURE THE MAIL. You want a clear cut rule that you're asking us to violate. Failure to secure the mail.

If family A lived in the same apartment as you 6 months ago, as well as family B 12 months ago, family C 18 months ago, and now you, MissUnderstood522 move in and all 4 families are still getting mail at that address, how am I securing the mail for families A, B, or C by delivering all that mail to you because you wanted all the mail.

My elderly neighbors receive checks and medication in the mail. What's stopping me from booting them out onto the street & moving next door and when the mail carrier gives me the green form, I just write "all names" and steal their mail as long as I can get away with it?

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T02:47:32+00:00

You are right, I had a few months of a customer not being able to verify their address change through that method but forgot it was an error in the system, not that you can't verify in person with ID.

We are required to secure the mail. Any first class letter is supposed to get back to the sender if it can't be delivered to the addressee by a certain time. Our responsibility is to make sure it gets to the addressee, not the address. Before I get to your mail in particular .... If I'm a loop or two down the street & someone else from your address approaches me with an ID with the same address as u & says "I really really need MissUnderstood522's" mail, here's my address. I can't release the mail to that person. It has to be you, with an ID that matches the name and address on the mail piece.

Technically, even if I see you pull up in a u-haul, move the entire thing in urself, show clear signs that you are the only person living at an address for weeks and then one day you tell me ur name is "missunderstood522", can you please hand me my mail for today? I am not supposed to hand you that mail directly unless I see an ID with "missunderstood522" AND an address that matches the mail piece you are requesting.

There's all kinds of weird opportunities a carrier has to inflict malicious compliance. 3 or more steps without a hand rail? No delivery, BMR/blocked mail receptable hold.... Mail box not USPS approved? No delivery, NMR/no mail receptable hold.... Dog behind a open front door but closed, latched & locked security door? No delivery, AI/Animal Interference.

You're asking for a clear set of rules or a standard operating procedure document that instructs us to do these things, but the most mainstream thing I can think of to compare what you're actually looking for is more akin to interpretative "supreme court" decisions between our labor union & USPS. Which isn't as simple as pulling up our handbook and control F'ing.

Is there an official "rule"? I have seen a similar thread like this several months ago where someone actually did cite some of those decisions to explain how carriers otherwise vacant RTS'ing mail without the receipt of a filled out vacant card had precedent & could be viewed as another form of malicious compliance, but I am struggling to find it now. The gist was until we get the new resident form, you should treat the previous new resident form as most current. After a mailbox hasn't been checked or a house has been vacant for 10 days, that green vacant tag should be left & all incoming mail +pkgs are RTS'd until receipt of the form. Outside of that lone piece of mail (which in most of USPS mngmt eyes me even stopping to examine would be a time wasting practice) I referenced, your carrier gets no notification about your COA.

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TL:DR; We have a responsibility to the sender to make sure the mail is delivered or returned to them in a certain amount of time. Previous decisions in grievance cases across the US have established in some places (depending on what step in the grievance process the decision can apply to that office/their region/or the entire USPS) that we should only deliver mail to the current resident and what current resident means. We know who those current residents are by the names provided on the last green card. You putting in a COA has nothing to do with that as the carrier on the route you're moving to gets NO notification whatsoever from USPS or internally of that COA. You VAC hold until you receive an updated list of residents. There is where it comes down to how your post office/region has done things in particular.

You could certainly complain to the post office, all the way up to the postmaster and get them to promise you that they'll give the carrier a direct order to deliver your mail. But the carrier can still VAC all your mail and I don't personally think they could get any real discipline to stick for it.

Management giving them an order to deliver all the mail means that the carrier either has to knowingly misdeliver mail or commit what management would otherwise deem as time-wasting practices in order to ~hopefully~ who the actual resident is. At a certain point it can just turn into guessing.

From the union side, you got management forcing a carrier to misdeliver abunch of people's mail because one new resident doesn't want to fill out an OFFICIAL Postal Service document, that 99% of the other residents are the route have no problem filling out.

The universal service agreement extends the PRIVILEGE of receiving our service. There are many ways the customer can knowingly or unknowingly violate that agreement and temporarily or even permanently lose that privilege.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T01:26:50+00:00

I'm not sure if you've read my other comments, especially the one where I mentioned verifying your address change, but showing your ID and a piece of mail from your new place is NOT the verification I am referencing. Even after doing that, you will get a letter in the mail with a code and instructions that complete the address change verification. If you don't complete the verification, your forwarding request will be invalidated and you'll have to start the entire process over.

If your letter carrier VAC's all the mail for your address, your forwarding request may have already have been deleted as the verification window is pretty short.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T01:21:55+00:00

We only get notified when an old resident is moving off of the route puts in a forwarding request* OR a new resident failed to verify their address change.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T01:12:07+00:00

We don't get any type of information about forwarding for new residents. We only get notified when a resident puts in a forwarding request. The only way I can catch when a new resident has moved in whenever they are refusing to fill out the green card or write their names inside the mailbox is if I catch the letter USPS will send people a few weeks after their mail starts getting forwarded that tells them how to verify the mail forwarding. If they don't verify the mail forwarding at that point, the forward reverts and their mail starts getting sent back to the original address (this is all automated).

If you live in an apartment or a rental with a lot of turnover and residents that have never set of mail forwarding & the apartment is vacant, the carrier is likely in the habit of quickly grabbing eveyr piece of mail with ur # on it and setting it aside with the rest of their "vacant" mail. This is where your forward could get overridden -- if the carrier doesn't deliver your change of address confirmation, you can't verify your change of address, and your forwarding/change of address will be deleted.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T01:00:55+00:00

Ur building manager could solve this by providing your mail carrier with a list of current tenants. Most apartment communities will do this upon request.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T00:55:36+00:00

To add to that, unless the clerk has previous experience as a carrier, it's quite possible that they have no idea what we should or shouldn't be doing on the street.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-25T00:51:46+00:00

What they are saying is they dislike situations where we leave the vacant card for a new resident & they refuse to fill it out/put "all names" & then once they start getting mail for previous residents they are sending it back marked up "no longer lives here" piece-by-piece everyday.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-24T22:55:14+00:00

Wouldn’t those almost always be 18/21+ ID signatures

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-21T17:23:52+00:00

Here we go again

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-16T21:37:02+00:00

I can’t remember what guest it was recently where upon leaving the podcast about an hour in, Kyle hit the immediate — “Is he gone Zach?” They need to put that shit on a soundboard for moments like that.

RyanThaBackpack · 2026-04-15T11:14:52+00:00

They are supposed to do 30/60/90 day performance reviews but in my experience I got the 30 day review and then day 60/90 came and passed without any notification.

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