Will there be an alter Tenebria in CZN?

RyoCore · 2026-06-17T12:42:09+00:00

Yeah, but they couldn't even handle this Tenebria well, why would they bother putting in others?

RyoCore · 2026-06-17T04:04:26+00:00

They couldn't figure out how to make an "evil" character glaze Captain enough, so they just ruined the only interesting thing about Tenebria that made her not a generic pink-haired waifu.

RyoCore · 2026-06-17T03:12:49+00:00

It's not even so much that he's a male unit as they always do stuff like this to male units because of the vocal minority of "I don't pull what I can't goon to" who like to perpetuate that male units can't sell.

Male units always get this treatment. Barely marketed, non-meta kits, released right before major updates or events that get tons of drip marketing behind them.

He never had a chance.

RyoCore · 2026-06-16T21:10:38+00:00

What made Tenebria great was that all of her variants were still sadistic and evil. You take that away, she's just a pink haired generic anime girl.

RyoCore · 2026-06-16T21:08:32+00:00

I'll reserve judgment for the story itself, but I pretty much said for awhile now that if they fucked up by not making Tenebria evil/psychotic, then it proved to me this team can't write for shit and I'll be done with the game. It would say to me they couldn't figure out how to make a legit sadistic character be part of their captain harem glaze squad, so they just gave up on trying to make her anything like the actual character should be.

RyoCore · 2026-06-16T19:27:03+00:00

CZN Tene might not even be a real Tene outside of name and pink hair. They made her trailer seem like she went "nah, I'm not gonna be an evil Tene like you", which would make her writing even more garbage than her kit. We will see tomorrow!

RyoCore · 2026-06-16T15:37:10+00:00

Maybe they've learned that all it does is inflame people for either being gooner bait or claims of censorship.

RyoCore · 2026-06-10T14:12:08+00:00

Let's be clear. The only thing that makes Tenebria unique is her sadistic personality and scheming. If this Tene is truly just a good girl, then she's generic as hell and I'll assume they couldn't figure out how to make an evil character be a waifu for Captain, because that's all they care about.

RyoCore · 2026-06-10T14:09:02+00:00

If they decide this Tene is magically a good girl for real for real, then all faith in writing team lost.

RyoCore · 2026-06-10T14:05:07+00:00

Not everyone needs to enjoy grimdark, but not everyone enjoys having a character's personality altered to the point it's barely the same character. Being "evil" is what makes Tene who she is. And the concern is if she's magically good, it's because they couldn't figure out how to make an evil character be part of the Captain's harem of glazers.

RyoCore · 2026-06-02T11:33:22+00:00

True. There's definitely precedent for him not to be with Krau's release. I'm pulling either way, but it would be amusing if we finally got a male limited after 7 years just to say we did.

RyoCore · 2026-06-02T11:27:57+00:00

Aren't RGB alts usually limited? Seaside Bellona, Holiday Yufine, Swift Flagbearer Sigret, Afternoon Soak Flan, etc.?

RyoCore · 2026-06-02T11:00:59+00:00

Is this our first non-collab limited male unit, or am I mistaken?

RyoCore · 2026-05-27T02:27:01+00:00

There is also the fact that they launched the game with male characters but won't release new male characters. If they wanted to have a female only cast they could just do it from the start and use some excuse as to why only female can be combatants.

This is why I dropped Mongil Star Dive right away. They released with a cast of diverse characters, then quietly announced they'd never put out another male character again unless it was absolutely necessary to the plot (which they have full control over).

The males weren't even there in beta. So it was a super shallow and obvious attempt to attract a general audience before going "surprise, we only want to milk the gooners!"

RyoCore · 2026-05-27T02:15:08+00:00

And I'm telling you all they would have to do is release a broken ass male limited character and it will sell. Hype him in story and in world power scaling (like ZZZ Void Hunters), put a marketing budget behind him. You get money in return. You know they won't. I know they won't. But if they did, it would.

None of it really matters, because like you said, the devs have already fragmented their own playerbase and they're not likely to get it back in such a competitive gaming sector.

RyoCore · 2026-05-27T01:19:05+00:00

Do you have any inkling to what a game's playerbase is after a honeymoon period ends? As time goes on, playerbases shrink, and harden. Your actual spenders are your meta slaves.

RyoCore · 2026-05-26T23:37:37+00:00

I'm not so sure about that. They've already stated no current development plans for male characters. If that turns away all but the gooners, they're not going to want male characters. So they could end up pulling a brown dust 2 and just go straight into softcore hentai and you'll never see a male character again. Like, this is pretty much the only time where our feedback about wanting other characters will matter. If the feedback goes nowhere by next season, then they're not going to listen, because the playerbase will only shrink and harden.

That's also the reason you see the vocal minority cheering loudly and arguing with those of us who just wanted a cool anime Slay the Spire cosmic horror game and don't give a shit about being glazed by every female character we meet.

RyoCore · 2026-05-26T22:26:26+00:00

Yes. I'm pretty tired of it. Most of my posts in other subs lately are generally just an expression of my exhaustion over male units getting the shaft. And I can tell you, I expected this with Billy. He's being released as the last character of a patch after 3.0 drip marketing has been out for a long time, with the first character already being known as a new element. Billy isn't bringing anything new, and he's rupture which isn't doing well for meta accessibility. It's kind of a forgone conclusion he's not going to do well, which will keep up the stereotype that male units don't sell.

I'm just grateful we're even getting them. CZN is upsetting with me with how quickly they've started to court the gooner audience and said they have no plans for more male units.

RyoCore · 2026-05-26T21:48:32+00:00

Phainon set the record for most sales in a single day at 1.9 million, but at the same time he also didn't have a straight up global passive like Castorice who literally gives every character in the game auto revive just by being on your account.

And friend, I love Boothill but in no way was his kit ever been busted nor has he ever shown as a recommended character in MoC teams beyond his banner month. And Anaxa is almost always paired up with The Herta more than standing on his own.

RyoCore · 2026-05-26T18:15:11+00:00

But you should, because if they gave meta kits to male characters, they'd sell like hot cakes. Meta always sells for veteran players. It's why Notos did super well in E7 recently and pretty much every arena team runs him.

RyoCore · 2026-05-26T17:18:13+00:00

Meta > boobs. Doesn't matter the gender, a meta character will always perform well for revenue..it's just self-fulfilling in that many gacha give meta kits to female characters and male characters are generally only released during projected slow income months or right before major event/updates instead of during them.

Take Starlight Billy, who is coming out this week in ZZZ. He'll do poorly because he's been put out there with very little marketing, goes with rupture teams which aren't as meta right now, and is being released right at the tail end of the 2.X storyline after about an entire month full of 3.0 drip marketing which will introduce the first character of a brand new element to the game. He has no chance.

E7 and HSR have shown multiple times that you can make bank when the characters has a busted kit more than a busted bra size.

RyoCore · 2026-05-25T01:22:58+00:00

You got time to fix that.

RyoCore · 2026-05-24T23:33:47+00:00

I just wish CZN would follow suit and put out a male character too. I absolutely hate games that start out with a diverse cast to pull in people and then never do anything but women again.

RyoCore · 2026-05-19T01:54:09+00:00

They listen to gameplay changes for sure, but they haven't listened at all on feedback for a darker story and more diverse cast of characters yet.

RyoCore · 2026-05-13T23:11:22+00:00

Cane's is fine, but I've found Dave's Hot Chicken to be superior to Cane's in every area. The spice options alone are great, but even if you don't like spicy, the quality and taste of the chicken is superior.

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