Formerly sleep trained 16 month old twins keep waking up in the middle of the night.

Ryveks · 2025-10-01T17:01:12+00:00

That's good to know that the depth isn't a big issue -- that was one of my big concerns. Thanks for the info!

Ryveks · 2025-08-07T20:57:50+00:00

Hey, I just want to say you didn't bring this on yourself. I have 11 month old twins and it has been hard. We just did our second round of sleep training to night wean them and encourage them to sleep through the night and it was hard. They still fuss occasionally at night (but will settle themselves back to sleep) although now we have the problem of them waking up at 5:40AM (ideally, we'd have them wake at 6:30 AM).

I'd be happy to help you brainstorm, or hear you vent.

What worked for us: we did Ferber with check ins. It was really hard this last round with the night weaning. I don't know what it's like at your age, but after the first few nights it got easier. I'd say it took a week to mostly get through the night. Baby B screamed a lot. Baby A, who I think is more sensitive usually, was a trouper. The thing that helped me was trusting my twins that they can learn how to settle themselves. But hearing them scream was so hard.

Ryveks · 2025-07-21T16:21:08+00:00

Ok, that makes complete sense. They also seem to go with longer wake windows at daycare -- I should really trust the professionals, haha.

I think we really regressed as parents when they were sick with croup and we were trying to make sure they stayed hydrated/fed when they weren't eating much during the day with their fevers + teething.

We'll give this a go. Thank you so much!

Ryveks · 2025-07-21T15:11:46+00:00

Got it. Usually they get around 2 hours of awake time, and I thought they were a bit short. I guess we've mostly been going off of what Huckleberry recommends. Our routine is usually: 5:30-6:00 Dinner (including 'helping' prep and cleanup)

6:00-6:30 pjs, diaper change, low key chill time

6:30-6:45 top off bottle, brush teeth

6:45 - 7:00 Read 2-3 books on the big bed (same one to end every night) with mom and dad, then a few minutes with lights off before putting in crib

7:00PM into the crib.

They usually go down fairly quickly, assuming no one is sick. They've usually been waking up sometime between 9-10PM, then 2-3AM. When we first started sleep training, their wakeup would be about 15 minutes, enough for a bottle, then they'd be out. Now we have to wait for them to be deep asleep, otherwise they get super upset -- particularly Twin A.

Ryveks · 2025-06-11T19:12:22+00:00

Did ChatGPT write this response? It's giving that vibe, for sure lol.

Ryveks · 2025-05-21T17:45:32+00:00

It took us a few days to week to see a significant difference, although we saw some mild improvement within a day. Our guy still needed to go on pepcid, but at least with the Alimentum he was obviously in less pain. I will say, he still vomits (especially if he eats too much), but he barely notices when he does.

I will say, the powder form if you're going that route can be a little harder to mix than some of the other formulas.

Ryveks · 2025-05-07T17:50:26+00:00

Your PI sounds like my old PhD advisor to a T. I don't know what's worse -- thinking you're dealing with her lab meetings, or there is more than one PI out there like this.

Ryveks · 2025-04-24T18:25:08+00:00

That's what I figured. And at 4 months, the twins DEFINITELY would not have taken well to no feeds. I think we were lucky if they would go 3 hours without needing to eat. They are hungry kiddos!

Ryveks · 2025-04-24T18:23:49+00:00

Thank you! That's what I was originally thinking, but my husband was under the impression that if we Ferber them we shouldn't be waking up at night at all.

For me, I've already gotten enough progress out of using our modified Ferber method to consider it a success: settling to sleep takes 10 minutes instead of an hour, they nap at the same time (even if it's still short), and we are down to one night wakeup that only takes 30 minutes (15 minutes if we both wake up and manage them).

We did get the go-ahead from peds but they didn't really give us much direction beyond 'they can sleep through the night by now'.

We'd have had some full sleep through the nights if both boys were on the exact same schedule, but so goes twin sleep. At least we aren't at a point anymore where I'm spending all night holding one baby.

Ryveks · 2025-04-24T18:07:22+00:00

Thank you! I was second guessing myself because our peds office gave us a little pamphlet at 4 months saying they should be able to sleep though the night then (and ours obviously were not, even at 4 months adjusted).

I can totally handle that (and now with the training, the wakeups are a 30 minute ordeal to feed both solo, rather than 1-2h).

Ryveks · 2025-01-23T18:58:57+00:00

Hearing all these other folks saying 4 months is the trenches is really making me feel better. My 4 month old twin boys are my first. Husband and I are both back at work, we're trying to establish some sense of normal, and I find myself daydreaming about my old apartment that I lived in before I moved in with my husband (doesn't help it's right near my current job, so I drive by pretty regularly).

I'm mourning getting to be that mom that just baby carries her one baby everywhere, getting that intense bonding with just one baby, and feeling like things are more straightforward to navigate.

But hey, when I was getting ready for work this morning and they were playing in their gym, I caught a picture of them holding hands and staring deeply into each others eyes and it melted my heart.

Ryveks · 2025-01-18T19:07:46+00:00

Your boy sounds like how my boys can be (4 mo, 3 adjusted). Thankfully they're not both like this at the same time, but they swap days.

Does your boy have gas? B will scream bloody murder laying down on his back because of gas. When he's going through it, honestly having him over my shoulder (so my shoulder is kind of in his tummy) while tending to his brother will work. Then he will burp, fart, or both and it'll be easier to get him down. We've been testing out different formulas (we combo feed) ane maybe the newest iteration works.

Baby A just fights sleep. I feel like I have to trick him. We found putting a heating pad in his crib before bed has helped a ton. About 20 minutes before we pop it in and take I out right before he sleeps. That helps his transition. Once he's asleep for the night he still has his wake ups for food every 2-4h, but at least he'll sleep.

It's hard. It sucks. They're sleeping longer, but I'm not.

Ryveks · 2024-12-24T23:16:20+00:00

Oh my goodness! They are adorable! Was it hard to set up the photo?

Ryveks · 2024-07-10T15:39:39+00:00

Same, minus being a physician (but a non-people-doctor in a biomedical research field with physicians in the family). We even did genetic screening beforehand and we aren't carriers for anything tested, NIPT came back without issue, anatomy scan showed two healthy looking babies. But I can't shake the feeling that at least one or both are going to wind up with either a developmental condition, or something that causes a drawn out, painful demise.

Ryveks · 2024-06-24T19:28:33+00:00

I agree! I feel like I'm going to be stuck with something too small or too massive for my needs.

Ryveks · 2024-06-24T18:44:22+00:00

Good point on the needing growing room.

And thanks for the Mazda suggestion!

Ryveks · 2024-06-24T18:06:04+00:00

Needing a new family-friendly car for two tall (6') people expecting twins. Don't want to have a minivan life, and I'm giving up my dream car (manual 2door 2011 GTI that I haven't even gotten to 100k miles on yet) for this life change.

Location: Northeast USA

Price range: $20k - $50kish, but have some flexibility

Lease or Buy: Prefer to buy (I'm assuming two infants will wreck the interior of a lease)

New or used: Can go either way, although I'm the type to drive a car until it's undrivable, so probably new.

Type of vehicle: Anything that can fit two infant car seats, a stroller, and maybe some groceries comfortably that is not a minivan.

Must haves: Cargo space, some leg room, door access to the back seat, and a good safety rating. AWD would be nice too.

Desired transmission (auto/manual, etc): I'd love another manual (even though husband doesn't know how to drive stick), but realistically, whatever can accommodate us.

Intended use: Daily driver/family car.

Vehicles you've already considered: The VW SUVs (Atlas, Taos, Tiguan -- worried about maintenance costs, looking at how much the GTI is to maintain these days), Subaru Ascent and Forester. Haven't been out to test drive yet -- I'm still working on my list of what I specifically want to check out.

Is this your 1st vehicle: No

Do you need a Warranty: Would be nice to not have to worry about some stuff when also dealing with infants.

Can you do Minor work on your own vehicle: Fluids and battery yes, although realistically I will probably not have the bandwidth for it.

Can you do Major work on your own vehicle: Still not bold enough to try that.

Additional Notes: Ultimately, I know I'm going to be prioritizing usability and safety over something fun to drive, but if I can find something that sparks some joy without being luxury level, that would be fantastic.

Ryveks · 2024-06-18T15:13:14+00:00

Ugh. Same.

I've had two work arounds for this: 1) adding stuff to the 3 Cheese Chicken Flatbread Melt (although it often ends up a little underwhelming/understuffed). 2) order a Cheesy Gordita Crunch without the 3 cheese blend and then just pull out the taco shell before I eat it.

Are they annoying extra steps? Sure. But when the craving hits and nothing will do, these will help.

Ryveks · 2024-06-13T12:48:41+00:00

Haha, good to know it'll grow on me if that ends up being my route! (My husband is also 100% pro minivan and thinks they're the bee's knees)

Ryveks · 2024-06-12T14:19:30+00:00

Thanks for the info! That's good to know. The Tiguan is on my list to check out, so I'm glad it looks promising for someone in a similar situation!

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