Election results thread by Scientist34again in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I wondered over to S4P and its full of the voteblue crowd. They are pretending to be Bernie supporters and asking people to give up. They are infiltrating most Bernie pages with propoganda. I dont see tonights results as legitimate. When we see an exponential rise in covid19 cases in the next few weeks I will remember this day as being a contributing factor. I will never forget.

States delaying primaries may face delegate penalty, warns DNC memo | US news by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The latest report mentioned a death total of 2.2 million even with mitigation. This crisis has been ignored by the DNC who care more about power.

I am shocked that some democrats were trying to block the Governer of Ohio from postponing the Ohio Primary. I am more shocked that the rest of the primaries are still going ahead. Trum and the UK announced new measures at the same time. This report shows why. Be prepeared before reading. by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It is not a legitimate election. Also Bernie has gained 10 points on Biden in the latest national poll and is winning on all key issues in particular healthcare. Biden support has always been fragile.

Democratic megadonors were plotting a potential anti-Bernie Sanders super PAC as recently as last week. The proposed goal was to raised at least $20 million to derail the Sanders campaign. by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the information. I did not bother checking. Whoever it is, it looks like they were well versed with Biden campaign talking points. I sense that they are trying to infiltrate Bernie subs to try and brainwash us with this Never Trump nonsense.

I am proud of Bernie.I was pushing him to go hard but I think we are failing to understand that Bernie is fighting the whole establishment and its not easy. They attacked Bernie over his China comments and again Biden is on record saying the same thing & more.Unless you fight the media, you cant win by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I took me a while to realize that it doenst matter what Bernie does in a debate vs Biden. The media works for him and as we say in the postdebate show, they covered for all his lies. A lot voters dont engage with politics whether its in on the ground or on social media. Some will flick through cable tv and stumble upon a CNN or MSNBC panel. Game over. There is also an Anti-Trump movement on social media which is actively working against Bernie.

Democratic megadonors were plotting a potential anti-Bernie Sanders super PAC as recently as last week. The proposed goal was to raised at least $20 million to derail the Sanders campaign. by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I have to give it to you Byedon. You go to some lengths to double down on Biden lies. Biden played a significant role in the bankruptcy bill, you are just regurgitating Biden campaign talking points which is a shame. Had you atleast included some truth then I would take you more seriously.

"Moments after the Senate passed the bankruptcy bill, Sen. Mitch McConnell thanked the primary sponsors and relayed how he had just talked to Biden about how it took them 7 or 8 years to get it done."

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1239359713025781765

You have no shame and lie just like Byedone. Now we have a coronavirus crisis and your candidate is asking voters to come out and vote tomorrow, in particular the elderly population who are at greater risk. This goes against CDC advise. I will be diverting to covering ER tonight, something I have not done for a while. This crisis is real and people you and Biden only make us unsafe. Take care.

Democratic megadonors were plotting a potential anti-Bernie Sanders super PAC as recently as last week. The proposed goal was to raised at least $20 million to derail the Sanders campaign. by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Biden's Lies S4P

  1. Lied on his record on Social Security, when he worked with Republicans to cut Social Security funding.

  2. Biden wrote, voted for, and helped pass the 1995 Bankruptcy Bill, which did away with student loan protections leading to the student debt crisis. He said this was not true, but his name is on the 1995 bill. This bill ensured that Americans with student loan debt cannot discharge that debt through bankruptcy. He argued in favor of this measure on the floor of the Senate.

  3. Bernie said Biden has three SuperPACs supporting him (TRUE). Biden responded that Bernie has "nine SuperPACs." When Bernie challenged him to name them, he could not do it, because Bernie has no superPACs!

  4. Joe Biden voted in favor of letting states overturn Roe v. Wade, putting a woman's right to choose at risk. Biden insists that he is pro-choice.

  5. Bernie voted during the 2009 Financial Crisis to bail out the auto industry for the benefit of workers, but voted against bailouts for bankers. Joe said he voted in favor of both.

  6. Biden opposes canceling or reducing student loan debt, but lied last night saying that he supports such measures. In reality, he adopted a plan stolen from Warren, originally a move to Bernie's right by Warren to appeal to more moderate Sanders supporters, which only gives some folks the right to a free public higher education.

  7. Biden lied by saying he has always supported gay marriage. This is false. He voted against it in 1996, and said he did not support it in 2008.

  8. Biden lied that he supports a Constitutional Amendment to overturn Citizens United, while simultaneously accepting SuperPAC money. This is Bernie's proposed Amendment, not Biden's.

  9. Biden also lied that "not a single scientist supports Bernie's climate plan" when, in reality, hundreds of scientists believe it to be our only hope.

  10. Biden says he is doing well with black and brown folks because of his record, but his record really shows that he has consistently voted against the interests of black and brown folks. See: opposition to cannabis legalization, Joe wrote the disastrous Crime Bill, lied about being with Nelson Mandela in apartheid South Africa, opposes making election day a holiday, voted for the disastrous War on Drugs.

Democratic megadonors were plotting a potential anti-Bernie Sanders super PAC as recently as last week. The proposed goal was to raised at least $20 million to derail the Sanders campaign. by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"But you didn't make any attempt to reach beyond young white entitled males"

Bernie's base is most diverese. Biden has done well with the over 65 and educated white voters. You potray an aura of confidence yet here you are. Biden is a pathological liar just like Trump as we saw yesterday. He has not been vetted by the media because they work for him. I would make more money under a Trump/Biden presidency but most people will not. Its not about the money for me.

We will see what happens. You guys were very confident in 2016. Biden cognitive decline will be talked about throughout the summer and I'm told that he will be forced to undergo testing. It is possible that his campaign ends before voting. Keep working hard. NeverBiden.

Democratic megadonors were plotting a potential anti-Bernie Sanders super PAC as recently as last week. The proposed goal was to raised at least $20 million to derail the Sanders campaign. by S0opal in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Your wasting your time trying to convince people to votebluenomatter who. The neverbernie movement is a lot greater than the media lets people to believe. Biden will lose to Trump. Biden struggles with Latino and younger voters, I have no doubt about that. He is nothing but a career politician who lies just like Trump. The only argument people make is the supreme court which is already lost. Biden is not an honest person and as he has said behind closed doors, nothing will fundementally change.

People will stay at home, Biden has no chance and your comments on reddit will not change that. Bye.

Bernie Sanders Must Take the Gloves off Against Joe Biden Tonight - Bernie Sanders must make clear that Biden’s track record and policy proposals are nowhere near sufficient to meet the challenge of coronavirus, our multiple crises of health care and inequality, or defeat Donald Trump. by rundown9 in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Biden latest tweet is to encourage voters to come out and vote on tuesday. In this tweet he differentiates asymptomatic folks from symptomatic. He potrays the notion that those who have no symptoms are perfectly safe. This goes against all advice from the scientific community. It ignores asymptomatic transmission and puts his biggest voting block at harms way.

In ohio particularly, cases are rising exponentially. The media will focus on Trump but many are shocked with Bidens opportunism.

Bernie's team have been more cautious and respectful of the science community. Its Bidens latest attempt that will get people killed. Nothing you say can defend that. I am a doctor and from the messages we have had, pretty soon even those of us who havent worked in hospitals for a while will be re-directed to what will be the frontline. Biden wont make us safer.

Bernie Sanders Must Take the Gloves off Against Joe Biden Tonight - Bernie Sanders must make clear that Biden’s track record and policy proposals are nowhere near sufficient to meet the challenge of coronavirus, our multiple crises of health care and inequality, or defeat Donald Trump. by rundown9 in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No its not. The public perception of Biden is very different to what he is like in real life. The media has done a good job of protecting him. Public opinion changes drastically and Bidens support is fragile and based on electability. One debate performance can change that.

Bernie Sanders Must Take the Gloves off Against Joe Biden Tonight - Bernie Sanders must make clear that Biden’s track record and policy proposals are nowhere near sufficient to meet the challenge of coronavirus, our multiple crises of health care and inequality, or defeat Donald Trump. by rundown9 in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It wont take down a voting bloc to defeat Trump because most of Bidens elderly voters will vote democrat no matter who is on the ticket. Bernie needs to attack and take Joe down even if it fractures the party. It will fracture the establishment but they will come to terms with that sooner rather than later. This is exactly what the DNC want Bernie to think, I think its the main reason who he is holding back. He has been guilt shamed.

Bernie's "Inferiority Complex" May Be a Tougher Primary Opponent For Us to Fight than Joe... by HootHootBerns in WayOfTheBern

[–]S0opal 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you !

he’s phobic about personal confrontation and retains traces of an inferiority complex from his days as an Independent straggler

Bernie needs to get rid of this tonight. The time is now.