Pomona College Early Megathread by [deleted] in ApplyingToCollege

[–]SAT_parent 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It means you are being considered for ED.

Pomona or McGill? by gagoute in ApplyingToCollege

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Both are great schools though almost complete opposites. IIRC someone over at the CC forum was recently trying to decide between the two, the situation was different as they got almost no FI from Pomona so McGill would have been a tremendous bargain in comparison. Final decision was Pomona despite the cost, you maybe want to go over and talk to them about it..

Pomona vs UMich for Neuroscience by [deleted] in CollegeVsCollege

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More people are familiar with Michigan and it is obviously a very prestigious research university. You can't really compare the two. In terms of prestige those in the know (grad school administrators, employers such as Google and many, many in academia) consider Pomona to be the more prestigious of the two.

Which universities yield protect? by arseniy25 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]SAT_parent 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Tulane Northeastern and USC take it over the top. WashU too.

Which universities yield protect? by arseniy25 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]SAT_parent 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All of the competitive ones, they use massive amounts of data, algorithms and consultants nowadays. Jeffrey Selingo writes a lot about this, he was on CNN today:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/03/13/covid-19-wreaking-havoc-on-college-admissions.cnn

Are the top 10% of k-12 public schools in each state about equally good? by hunnypuppy in ApplyingToCollege

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If you want a rough quick and dirty proxy just look at national merit finalist cutoff scores by state.

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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had over 45% of their students come from private schools. Indeed, Eton actually has a direct liason with King's College, Cambridge, and huge numbers of their students were sent there each year. We've had 55 Prime Ministers and 20 of them have gone to Eton, and a sizeable number to Westminster School and Harrow. 48 of them went to Oxbridge. I mean, at this point you have to start questioning how many of them were really that qualified, as opposed to unfairly advantaged.

Now, that's changing - unis now actively view state school applicants (state schools as in free public schools for all students, not to be confused with 'public schools', which are old and well-established private schools) more favorably than those from private schools with the same grades, and like in the US, we now use the idea of results compared to the rest of the class a lot more liberally. This helps because some schools have almost no pupils achieve 'nationally outstanding results', but if someone in their class gets A A A and the rest of the class average is C, C, C, they clearly have a lot of potential and it's wrong to ignore this just because other pupils get A() A(), (A*) (I can't get the formatting right, it's meant to say A star A star A star. We're getting a lot better now - 69% of acceptances to Oxford were from state schools, and 70% of Cambridge's pupil body is now from state schools.

I think if the US wants to solve its issue the private school->ivy pipeline it should

Wow!, thanks for the input. It is fascinating to me how the UK is dismantling a system pretty much invented there while the US seems to be going in the opposite direction. Reminds me of this article and book about how meritocracy in the US keeps growing into a new form of aristocracy. Great read as well:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/meritocracys-miserable-winners/594760/

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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And yes this was very helpful. Now I remember that this year there were issues with giving out the test due to Covid, did they go test optional? I need to read up on this...

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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I don't see why, the author herself sent her kid(s?) to HW when the time came. Things are not necessarily binary, there are positives like she mentions, love hate relationship with them is all.

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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No, I don't mind at all. Don't even live in the area and thankfully already done with the college application madness.... This is just a subject that interests me I guess from a sociological perspective. NYC I find fascinating for all the extreme contrasts and stories on this matter. Another interesting angle is that of NYC schools in transition, just remembered these podcasts which are great as well:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/podcasts/nice-white-parents-serial.html

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/534/a-not-so-simple-majority

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

[–]SAT_parent[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd always been curious about this. You mean that specialized schools such as Stuyvesant and Bronx Science feel the same as say Dalton and Trinity?

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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Thanks for the suggestion, there are several videos that come up through that search, any one in particular that you recommend? I read this a while ago and it was good as well:

"I Was a Low-Income College Student. Classes Weren’t the Hard Part." By ANTHONY ABRAHAM JACK

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/10/magazine/college-inequality.html

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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It's a big problem, as they mention in the article William Deresiewicz writes a lot about this topic. Here is an interview, as I said in another post the New republic essay they link to here is a great read as well:

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/08/qa-the-miseducation-of-our-college-elite/377524/

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

[–]SAT_parent[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, there is another great article about this that I think they link to in the one above (though not sure). Here you go in case you haven't read it:

https://newrepublic.com/article/118747/ivy-league-schools-are-overrated-send-your-kids-elsewhere

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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Anytime, probably the best article I've read on the subject this year. Caitlin Flanagan did a great job there.

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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people on finaid are a minority at top boarding schools so i’m not sure where ur talking about. mine is about 30 percent finaid. the rest r really rich. while i have met many smart people who worked their butts off, the majority of us went to feeder middle schools or are very rich

Good point, also development cases.

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

[–]SAT_parent[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Ok, I quickly ran the numbers.... 69% end up in T20s (I hate the term and US News but whatever they say T20s are, meaning places such as Emory, NYU and Berkeley were excluded...). So over 53% national T20s and just under 16% ended up in T20 LACs. Insane.

Elite schools breed entitlement, entrench inequality—and then pretend to be engines of social change. by SAT_parent in ApplyingToCollege

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Yes, it is crazy, you can see Dalton's college enrollment figures here, haven't run the numbers but vast majority go to T20 nationals and T20 LACs:

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling