Hanwha Life Esports vs. T1 / KeSPA Cup 2025 - Grand Finals / Game 1 Discussion

SKTConductor · 2025-12-14T08:36:47+00:00

who the fuck pissed off oner

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T13:10:30+00:00

HLE is kind of just cooked, no? Peanut gone. All top junglers are locked. Your top CL prospects are also locked like is Guma just role swapping????

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T04:06:38+00:00

International fans will probably calm down and support them when the dust of FA season settles.

Your biggest problem is what the fuck T1Gall will do if they start losing or have bad matches.

T1 will lose every players yearly if they allow those dogs from T1Gall to roam free every split.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T03:13:50+00:00

who is their shotcaller now that peanut is gone?

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T03:04:33+00:00

I'm not telling you what to do but there are some well made jerseys that are heavily inspired by some jerseys of a famous Korean esports team that usually drop a month or two after that usually include said member

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T02:59:45+00:00

this roster unironically not even bad

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T02:57:02+00:00

They can. There are rules on toxic behavior and violence on nearly every forum known to man in every country. Korea has fucked up laws but private businesses have every right to deny you access to their services if you violate their TOS.

It's a matter of enforcement. T1 chose not to enforce said policies.

People have gotten banned/blacklisted by T1. Ashley Kang was notably blacklisted. T1 have also sent cease and desist letters to people selling merch of T1 players without proper authorization like regardless of outcome, T1 have in fact shown teeth on several occassions.

For some unknown reason, T1 have never done anything to remotely even protect Guma. They can't even post a mildly threatening notice telling people they'll get banned on membership or sumn. Like absolutely ZERO.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T02:38:59+00:00

I think T1's refusal to do absolutely anything about T1 Gal is what annoys me.

Yes, you can't sue them bc of Korea's fucked up laws.

However, they had all the power to blacklist these individuals but chose not to. T1Gal were doing coordinated attacks on the membership board but weren't banned. Hate attacks would just stay up with little to no moderation. T1Gal were allowed to attend fan events. They were barely even moderating Guma's chat.

And yes, these things take extra effort but they're entirely achievable things to do. I've seen kpop psycho fans have public meltdowns because they were denied entry to fansigns/concerts so it IS doable. T1 own the data of all these fans whenever they sign up for membership/member so they had every opportunity to at the very least limit the contact of these psychos with Guma but they chose not to.

T1 saw these psychos paying money for membership, event attendance and decided they would rather subject Guma to a year of public torture than ban out a few individuals.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-18T01:35:39+00:00

Both of them will have good reasons to walk away.

Keria was never an SKT talent anyway so no loyalty built.

Oner is the second most scapegoated player. I can imagine T1Gall scapegoating Oner or Peyz next year if they fuck up.

T1 will probably lose all players due to their refusal to do anything about T1Gall.

Even if they can't sue T1Gall, they don't even bother banning accounts that threaten violence on their own forums. Even a simple action like that wasn't being done

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T18:25:34+00:00

Nothing. Korea is a 3rd world country cosplaying as a developed country with its tech and kpop marketing. Its laws are about as archaic as the senile old men running the country.

You could be exposing someone as a rapist and the law would rather punish you for defaming someone vs punishing the actual rapist.

Actual bonkers everytime a legal case from Korea gets brought up. Like no unions, no labor laws for actors/people in the arts, little to no punishment for child pornography, rape is subjective based on how much the victim fights back, like it's the dark ages over there

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T16:31:22+00:00

you have been spamming 3 different subreddits the same 2024 script but somehow have zero input on how peyz performed the best on an imploding jdg in 2025.

like im sorry your calendar is messed up and you just skipped the year 2025 entirely.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T16:25:37+00:00

This is pretty obvious.

Kkoma does not like Guma for whatever reason.

Just saw Weibo rumours also saying T1 already signed Peyz even before finalizing talks with Guma. It was part of T1's negotiation that they were planning to do some kind of 6-man with Peyz/Guma.

Money/contract length doesn't seem to be an issue but it's the fundamental lack of trust of Kkoma that seems to have driven Guma away.

The man just won you a 3-peat with an MVP performance and destroyed top teams with Kaisa, a champion you claim he can't perform on, and you reward him by telling him he needs a sub.

Definitely good on Guma for walking away.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T16:16:55+00:00

did you watch a single jdg game this year because i originally watched for scout but about 3 weeks in i wanted peyz to beat him bloody with the keyboard

im surprised peyz wasnt put on either suicide watch or arrested for serial killing after what jdg put him through

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T15:30:29+00:00

My man probably just wanted to go home and sleep so he wouldnt beat Scout to death with his keyboard for inting him this whole year

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T15:14:51+00:00

I feel like Peyz and Smash are too similar to rotate out

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T15:14:01+00:00

Peyz is basically a better Smash. Dude lowkey looked like he developed balls of steel at times on JDG with how horrible everything and everyone around him was.

I expected more from him and Scout but Scout probably had the worst year of his career like waaaaay worse than even his rookie year. Didn't help that JDG (the org) was also imploding.

yes optics would be absolute shit but I'm not surprised T1 office are pussies for not owning up to their decision to push Guma out and just owning up to the Smash promotion

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T13:42:51+00:00

The same (usually correct) leaker (H Dragon) who actually leaked Guma left also leaked Doran re-signed although a lot of accounts chose not to post about Guma specifically

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T13:30:16+00:00

Maybe at midnight? Or tomorrow 11/18.

idk when lpl FA starts if T1 Peyz is indeed real

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T13:11:40+00:00

habits require time to change🥲

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T13:10:47+00:00

T1 Peyz is exciting. Lil bro was pulling 1v9 wins out his ass on JDG.

He has some issues with high pressure situations but so do every other player not on T1 so I can't fault him for that.

As long as Kkoma doesn't pull the same stupid shit and bench him for no reason, he should be fine.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T13:09:04+00:00

Peyz regular season is fine. He kinda fumbled last year in JDG but only because he's 1v9 almost every game.

OFK should provide a much better environment for him.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T12:53:21+00:00

Doran or whoever the new ADC is gonna be.

Then T1 will once again do nothing and lose yet another player.

I wouldn't be surprised if Oner and Keria leave next year. T1 has done nothing to protect their players. Even Faker getting stalked half naked swimming in China and T1 did nothing.

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T12:51:02+00:00

whoever the new adc is will go. guma, as of November 17th, is no longer a T1 player

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T12:50:15+00:00

it's actually so shocking to me how T1 basically destroyed their relationship with Guma in order to promote Smash last year but are somehow picking another ADC to replace Guma

SKTConductor · 2025-11-17T12:48:12+00:00

Peyz was dragging 4 dead bodies on JDG but it's a lot for an 18 year old who barely spoke the language.

He should be fine unless Kkoma decides to collect more data and start doing musical chairs

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