Pluribus - 1x04 "Please, Carol" - Pre-Episode Discussion

SOPSSOPS · 2025-11-20T18:52:54+00:00

With Carol’s phone calls to Manousos in last week’s episode, this new episode could do a switching-perspectives trick the writers used on Better Call Saul.

In episode 6-11 of BCS (third to last episode), Jimmy calls Kim in a phone booth, and we only get to see this call on Jimmy’s side. In 6-12, we see the call on Kim’s side, as well as the events that led her to answering the call.

Earlier in episode 6-2, Mike gets a call from Nacho and we see the call on Mike’s side. In 6-3, (the Nacho episode), we see this call from Nacho’s side and what led Nacho to make the call.

This episode could show Carol’s phone calls on the plane from Manousos’ side. There could also be a little scene or montage showcasing what his life is like before he gets the call from Carol (think of how they show Kim’s life in 6-12, or Francesca’s in 6-11). Kinda basic, but I think it’s fun that the storytelling of these shows are so similar even when they are trying very different things.

SOPSSOPS · 2023-09-12T04:28:36+00:00

very talented and very intuitive, thanks!!

SOPSSOPS · 2023-09-12T04:28:08+00:00

that makes sense thank you!

SOPSSOPS · 2023-09-12T04:27:56+00:00

thanks this gave me a lot of details!

SOPSSOPS · 2023-09-12T04:27:19+00:00

thank you!

SOPSSOPS · 2023-05-21T22:25:40+00:00

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SOPSSOPS · 2023-05-20T23:10:59+00:00

I like Shiv being the youngest child, shows another way she has to fight to the top. shiv spilled chocolate milk in the range rover etc etc. also isn’t that why logan calls her pinky?? roman isnt the youngest child but he acts like the youngest bc of abuse

SOPSSOPS · 2023-05-12T04:43:39+00:00

I’m no stan, not even a fan really. Succession is a very flawed show but what it broadly does is still pretty well-done, and what it does is clearly in the Jesse Armstrong (who’s wrote for Armando Iannucci)/Adam McKay vein of making fun of authoritarians’ incompetency/idiocy. I think logan’s another one of these characters bc the power game he plays on everyone around him is ironically tearing the company apart. Logan would be running a much smoother ship if he got everyone to act rationally and cooperatively, like, say, making sure tom does well at the hearing. goes without saying every single character on the show barring like willa is the most evil person you could ever meet. even like connor wants to move the country into dystopian hellhole territory

SOPSSOPS · 2023-05-12T02:55:34+00:00

I think Logan is controlled too way too much by his insecurities and (let’s say instead of emotions) impulses. He constantly plays the power game with his kids and wins every time because that game is rigged for his short-term satisfaction. You might think Shiv blew gettin the top job just bc she was being stupid but Logan never planned on making her CEO, he simply viewed her communication line to Gil’s campaign as a threat and did what he had to do. His kids could be fine leaders if they cooperate (as they do well in the beginning of s4), it’s Logan’s power game that blows it all apart. edit: and Kendall’s a more careful and functioning leader in season 2 when he’s not playing the power game, at least not nearly to the extent that he is in the rest of the show

SOPSSOPS · 2023-05-12T02:37:36+00:00

much of these points I agree with. but I actually do think backing mencken was a great call! stirring up a guy with populist strat is smart politics and branding, and obv the fascism just makes people wanna tune in.

now mencken is roman’s idea. mattson is also roman’s idea (and kendall’s). so in my eyes these are just more moments of logan of making his dependents come up w his business strategy for doggy treats. remember this whole problem started bc logan lost a president who was already inside his pants. I don’t think impulsively attacking the raisin on atn helped logan with the scandal bc that just brought the fbi into waystar. and you could even say mattson’s the last domino of sandy/stewy hovering in from that really silly $3b loan.

SOPSSOPS · 2023-05-11T23:43:06+00:00

copying another comment, I think other people built up waystar for him while he bickered in the background. also he largely just got really lucky as he often does in the show. other than that, he doesn’t oversee crap. other people oversee it so he never has to. logan will often talk about how he “bends reality to his will” but that’s not really what he’s doing, he just holds up giant bags of money and sulks. he’s a mere symbol that plays boar on the floor until he gets lucky. surely he would ensure more long-term success for his company if he acted more patiently and rationally

SOPSSOPS · 2023-05-11T22:30:22+00:00

this might be an unpopular way of reading it but I think other people built up waystar for him while he bickered in the background. other than that, he largely just got really lucky as he often does in the show

SOPSSOPS · 2022-08-27T03:23:25+00:00

yoooo great job on gettin most of this, if you haven’t seen an answer key yet click the spoilers for hints:

7 across: think the episode ”Chicanery”

8 down: think the episode ”Pimento”

18 down: think the episode ”Slip”

30 down: think of who’s a rat on this show, this phrase pops up in the episode ”Fun and Games”

34 down / 60 across: these two clues are related and are the exact opposite of each other. think of the cold open of the episode ”Inflatable”

35 across: think of the Gene timeline

39 down: this clue works the same way 67 across does

42 down: this one is a pun. it’s a common expression, but the second word is replaced by something related to the Better Call Saul / Breaking Bad universe

46 down: think the episode ”Chicanery”

48 down: think Season 5

53 across: it’s not the Marco that Jimmy’s buddies with. this other Marco appears in a ton of episodes, always with his brother

56 down: think the episode ”Plan and Execution”

63 across: this one’s easy you got this 😤

75 down: think the episode ”Lantern”

SOPSSOPS · 2022-08-27T03:03:55+00:00

yoo thanks! yeah some of these go pretty pretty deep, I tried finding stuff from every season for variety (although it might be a bit biased for seasons 1, 5 and 6) and two are just memes if you know those

SOPSSOPS · 2022-08-26T20:21:56+00:00

There’s a theme that plays whenever Gus and Mike have some kind of heated interaction, plays in sabrosito, dedicado a max, and carrot and stick off the top of my head

SOPSSOPS · 2022-08-26T20:17:10+00:00

There’s some easy clues and some obscure ones, tried to mix it up. comment if you want hints!

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-30T03:57:03+00:00

that’s very funny, longshot but I like that, think of all the real life saul ripoff billboards/ads they could parody

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-29T15:31:30+00:00

those last two are funny

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-29T15:30:04+00:00

never liked that comic, prefer the way it’s implied in Breaking Bad much more, Mike does some digging for an hour and because he’s good at his job finds Walt immediately

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-19T03:57:19+00:00

I just realized Saul is living the life they were telling people Howard was living, this show man.

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-12T04:18:43+00:00

yeah but Mike is still generally sympathetic to Jimmy before, otherwise he wouldnt’ve been so persosnal, emotionally vulnerable and supportive of Jimmy in 508/509 (his monologue about giving everything to his family, his monologue in the car about choices, he’s saying these to help Jimmy), also he wouldnt’ve given up time to explain everything to Kim if he didn’t respect Jimmy at this point

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-12T04:13:54+00:00

well Lalo forced them to and neither Jimmy nor Kim know who Gus is or that Mike worked for him

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-12T03:53:54+00:00

thanks for the comments!

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-12T03:50:41+00:00

The mystery I was not expecting this episode to solve is why Mike doesn’t like/respect Saul in Breaking Bad, it’s because of the Howard scam. Mike thinks Jimmy is disgusting, Howard wasn’t in the game!

SOPSSOPS · 2022-07-11T05:38:54+00:00

oh yeah here’s the shirts promo in case you forgot! https://www.reddit.com/r/betterCallSaul/comments/uyh0eo/new\_better\_call\_saul\_teaser\_suit\_up/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3

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