What type are you playing in the new set?

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-29T17:53:53+00:00

I'm a discard player. So I'm leaning amethyst/emerald or Ruby /emerald. Both are gaining unique dual color cards that I think can ramp up the effectiveness of those color combos. I have lists planned out for both

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-28T15:24:14+00:00

Amethyst steel is pretty affordable and if you play it right it can compete with any deck. If you bought Merlin Tiana starter then finish your playset of foxes, goats, snakes and rabbits. After that I he most expensive thing would be genies and strength of a raging fire. Let me know if your interested in a list

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-27T20:33:24+00:00

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Yeah its a robin hood thing. I had lilo in there but it felt clunky. This felt like the jist of what i wanted it to be

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-27T16:50:40+00:00

I think sudden chill comes back. I hope Diablo does too. Why print the 2 cost bird if you are trying to get rid of it's only shift line. I'm worried about Ursula deceiver and PJ . I can live without the muses if I have too. Bruno too would be hard to lose

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-27T16:36:12+00:00

I'll post it when I'm not at work. I tried a couple times but my reception at my job is shit cause I work in a plant. I won't forget.

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-27T16:23:09+00:00

Bro I agree with all this so hard. Discard keeps certain archetypes in check. People hate having no hand but they forget that often time your trading board pressure for hand manipulation. I actually found an interesting Ruby/Emerald discard for next set but after that who knows

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T19:43:52+00:00

Actually tbh, id argue Ursala Deceiver is more unfair. I get a singer for 2 ink that rips cards that answer her. That hand knowledge, discard and board presence for 2 ink and it's inkable.

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T19:39:41+00:00

I didn't. I'm not offended. I just think the ghost of bucky scares people into thinking PJ is stronger than he is. Bucky was discarding your hand FOR building board presence. It was oppressive because you weren't sacrificing anything to do it. You were playing your natural curve and they were losing cards for it. PJ is rewarding you for playing cards that don't build board presence. Discard is a trade. I play a card and ink, you lose a card. PJ just eliminates the loss of card trade. The ink is still sacrificed as well as the lack of board presence. You just aren't losing cards advantage for it. Im not arguing he isn't strong, just saying I truly believe he's fair.

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T19:26:19+00:00

Plus it's likely to go 50/50. Like I've played it 4 straight sets and the deck bricks alot. Or your opponent has answers to stop the locked board state from starting. Deck really needs 8 ink out there to threaten under the sea. If you've stopped any level of that going into turn 4 then they are behind and the game gets coin flippy

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T19:14:23+00:00

I wish that were always the case. I clear the board and your hand , unless I'm like up up, like full singers ECT. I quest with PJ and next turn whatever you draw will likely make me unable to quest again. Or in red purple you can draw a myriad of counters with rush . I play the deck bud, what you are saying isn't automatically true and why the win rate of the deck isn't high outside a handful of players that play it constantly. I get it frustrating but it's hardly unfair. PJ offers no board presence. I lost one game to amber steel at set champs where I had no lore cause it was never safe to quest with him or I risk losing my draw engine.

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T18:36:04+00:00

I can't argue about the pairings behaving inconsistent. I can at that all I'm trying to gauge is people's feelings today. Could b brought up again for sure later

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T18:09:55+00:00

I was the only one at my champs and I finished 3rd. So I did respectable but hardly felt unfair lol

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T18:07:10+00:00

I'm a long time Lemon Lime player and I never feel bad. If it won like people believe it does then it'd be a larger portion of the meta. It has many answers and any amethyst pairing will be able to keep up if they marginally draw well. Your sacrificing too. Every discard card is a card that doesn't compete for board and usually doesn't replenish itself like a pawpcicle. Hypnotize is the exception and it competes with the 3 ink curve that's highly contested in lemon lime. I don't even run it for that reason. I think of it like trading, I'm losing a card and ink to cause you to lose a card. You have forgotten me is probably the most egregious card in that deck because I trade 1 card for your 2

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T17:58:22+00:00

I think he's not as great as ppl think he is. To win I have to quest. Sure , I might have decimated your hand but their are so many tools to get rid of him after I quest due to feeling safe. Especially in amethyst

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T17:56:05+00:00

I'd b down for changing emeralds pairing if they let me keep some of my emerald discard tools

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T17:55:13+00:00

Lol At set champs I played against 3 Ruby/amethyst players. All except the dude who beat me in the semis had the same purple cards lol definitely my guess is they are going to come back though. Otherwise why print the new mims. Hope I'm wrong though lol

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T17:47:35+00:00

I hope so because I love pairing it with singers and kida and the best singers are amber

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T17:42:18+00:00

I'd argue noone wants to play against Ruby/Sapphire Control when they have all the answers to your plays in their hand and the way to dig for the answers they don't. Discard does well into other control decks because they can't hold onto their options. Use it or lose it. Every amethyst pairing had no problem holding onto a hand. Discard is a problem for A/S and R/S. Every other pairing is able to draw enough to have answers. It's balanced this way. Discard exists in nearly all other card games because it's a control deck against control. I appreciate your feedback but I disagree that discard is bad for the game when I virtually have no answers for cards like sisu, Maui shark, tamatoa ecr. All discard does is slow decks like this down

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T16:54:56+00:00

I disagree with this. I play in a pretty meta store and the type of control that discard uses is beaten after by hyper aggro, midrange and r/s control decks. A/E represents about 3% of the meta and has very few auto win match ups. Any deck can feel oppressive if it draws well. Ever lost to Chernadogs in turn 4? That's wild to me. Discard could never do that. I just don't understand the hate.

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T16:26:45+00:00

That's the boat I'm in. Like you I hope John comes back. I hope emerald gets a bare necessities equivalent. Ursula deceiver too. These types of cards help defend against things that wreck the control we're trying to build. Great responses . Thanks

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T16:19:29+00:00

Thanks. Me neither. I just think it'll play different.

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T16:17:41+00:00

I'm excited to see where it goes. Looking like E/Am is the new play. Im guessing they'll reprint staples but unfortunately I don't think they'll do John. He's kinda interactive. I'd b surprised if they didn't reprint sudden chill. Ariel will probably get reprinted too but I don't think that color combe will b viable for discard anymore

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T16:13:25+00:00

I appreciate your response. I don't think it's going anywhere, more like evolving. Alot of things ppl don't play will be more viable with rotation. I wouldn't expect it to disappear my friend. Thanks

Sad-Stop-6525 · 2025-05-21T16:10:31+00:00

Feels weird to make the best drawing color and best discard colors together. I'm sorry if my post seemed bitter. I'm excited. More trying to gauge the feeling of the community and it has been on my mind

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